ARTICLE: Synthetic oil vs Mineral oil

ravi@64bhp · 24th March 2009, 22:29

Any semi-snythtic oils for my Wagon-R?? Heard there is a semi-synth from Mobil. Is it avaialble in the market?

swift8847 · 24th March 2009, 23:05

Folks I know this might just be stupid question after the query I posted above but the question is, if I really need to change to synthetic oil??

I did go through the thread and after reading the posts I need to know if this change is mandatory for my kind of usage.

I use this car for a max of 1000 kms a month.

I will be using this car for about 5000 kms more and then it will go to my brother who is not really bothered as to what oil the car is running on.

I don't rev the engine too much. The usual shift happens at about 2500-3500 rpm. I don't red line very often but it happens at lease once every time I drive.

Last point, not sure if this makes a difference. I have low-mid range headers for the car.

So should I get synthetic oil or the normal oil which the MASS uses??

vikram_d · 24th March 2009, 23:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by swift8847

Folks I know this might just be stupid question after the query I posted above but the question is, if I really need to change to synthetic oil??

I use this car for a max of 1000 kms a month.

I will be using this car for about 5000 kms more and then it will go to my brother who is not really bothered as to what oil the car is running on.

I don't rev the engine too much. The usual shift happens at about 2500-3500 rpm. I don't red line very often but it happens at lease once every time I drive.

Last point, not sure if this makes a difference. I have low-mid range headers for the car.

So should I get synthetic oil or the normal oil which the MASS uses??

Taking the above into consideration, I would recommend using mineral oil.

Raccoon · 25th March 2009, 00:05

^^^Ya, mineral is fine, but no need to go with what they use at the MASS. You could get better stuff elsewhere...

swift8847 · 25th March 2009, 00:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raccoon

^^^Ya, mineral is fine, but no need to go with what they use at the MASS. You could get better stuff elsewhere...

As in?? Do you mean I should get semi synthetic?

Raccoon · 25th March 2009, 00:44

Sure, why not? You can get mineral or semi synth of so many other brands...

K a s h · 25th March 2009, 08:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by rajchetan

Hi

Read below website enquiry i did for engine oil form Indica V2na.

Hello Mr Raj,

Thanks for your enquiry.

For Tata Indica Approved product is Mobil Super 1000TM(API CH4). Mrp for
this product is Rs 1260/- for a 4.5 Ltr Pack.
Please contact our Auth Distributor or please mail your contact number so
that we can contact you.
M/s SpeedAway Ltd,No 1 Susheela Road,
Ist cross,Near Minerva Circle,Bangalore.
Contact Person Mr Prasad(9980551408,41496502)
EMAIL - blr3@speedaway.co.in

Thanks,

V.L.Kishore
ExxonMobil Lubricants Pvt Ltd
Area manager,Automotive Retail sales,
Hyderabad.
Ph.9848624842

The following inquiry was sent through:
Brand: MOBIL
First Name: Chetan
Last Name:
Position Title:
E-mail: rajchetan79@gmail.com
Company:
Address: Bangalore karnataka 560078
Country: India
Phone:
Fax:
Current Customer: No
Question:
From where in bangalore can i procure Mobil_Delvac_1300_Super Is this oil
suited for Indica DLX na.
If not which oil is sutible and at what cost can i buy it.

Got 3 litres of Mobil1 SuperSyn 5w50 from this dealer 2 weeks ago.
He initially quoted 840/= per litre and then after mentioning that i got his details from team-bhp, he reduced the price to 780/= :-)
Thanks to Raj, he had received an e-mail from their head office about a inquiry from team-bhp. Would recommend him definitely for anyone buying Mobil1 in Bangalore.

gpa · 25th March 2009, 12:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by vikram_d

Taking the above into consideration, I would recommend using mineral oil.

+1 to that

Cheers,
gpa

IronWolf · 25th March 2009, 20:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by vikram_d

There is no specific recommended procedure for moving from Mineral to Synthetic. Only changing the filter is needed. Nothing else is mandatory.

Since its been a while. The service station recommended using the flush @ about 450Rs. So decided to just get it done the best way.

Quote:

Originally Posted by amit_mechengg

it seems castrol edge is a very good oil. how can one rate it over mobil 1?
just went through their website. please have a look once. its the best one i have seen ever.

Castrol EDGE

As per my understanding Castrol Edge is their flagship product and is a very good a Synth as Mobil1 or Shell Helix Ultra.

I got quotes for Shell Helix Ultra (Old Stock) for 2700 and Mobil1 only at 4700 odd.

Quote:

Originally Posted by swift8847

As in?? Do you mean I should get semi synthetic?

I actually dont get this Semi-Synth option. Are there any real value options?

Quote:

Originally Posted by K a s h

Got 3 litres of Mobil1 SuperSyn 5w50 from this dealer 2 weeks ago.
He initially quoted 840/= per litre and then after mentioning that i got his details from team-bhp, he reduced the price to 780/= :-)
Thanks to Raj, he had received an e-mail from their head office about a inquiry from team-bhp. Would recommend him definitely for anyone buying Mobil1 in Bangalore.

Now you tell me this !! Anyway... I got the Edge in my Engine today.

normally_crazy · 26th March 2009, 01:01

Been using only synthetic oils in the vRS. Have used 3 brands till date.

Mobil 1 (5W50) , Shell Helix Ultra (15W50) and now OWS (5W50)

Have just driven about 50 kms on the OWS today. But amongst the 3, initial impressions when I changed the oil is that with OWS the engine is much smoother and quieter than Shell or Mobil.

Will report as I pile on the miles.

R2D2 · 27th March 2009, 11:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by normally_crazy

Been using only synthetic oils in the vRS. Have used 3 brands till date.

Mobil 1 (5W50) , Shell Helix Ultra (15W50) and now OWS (5W50)

Have just driven about 50 kms on the OWS today. But amongst the 3, initial impressions when I changed the oil is that with OWS the engine is much smoother and quieter than Shell or Mobil.

Hi. What does the OWS oil cost? Had not seen or heard much of this brand. So I looked it up on the 'net.

Rgds,

luvjascha · 2nd April 2009, 20:19

I went to get an oil change for our Swift (petrol) from my local gas station, and a 15W40 grade oil was used.

I just checked the owner's manual, and Maruti recommends SF 20W40 (What's SF?)

Will this cause the engine to run any differently, or will I experience any abnormal behavior in the car's performance/running?
The oil was some MK brand, and read API-SJ. I didn't even bother asking if it was semi-synthetic or regular mineral oil. A 3-litre bottle cost me 592/-

BTW, the car has done 23K km.

What is the difference in price of a 1-litre bottle of regular mineral oil, and semi-synthetic oil?
What are some good brands for both?

Raccoon · 3rd April 2009, 01:12

The grade should be ok for your car. You wont see anything abnormal.

I dont think there is any MK brand of oil in the Indian market. Since you filled up at a petrol bunk, I suspect it was MAK. Its prolly not the best stuff available, but it'll do the job... so to speak.

What you have used is definitely a mineral oil. One litre of mineral would cost approx Rs. 200 - 300 /litre. Fully synthetic usually retails between 750 - 1000 per litre, approx... depending on brand and dealer.

Good brands for mineral - Mobil, Elf, Chevron, Shell, Valvoline, or any major brand... many choices.

For synth - Mobil, Shell...

Petronas is a south east asian brand which is worth considering for both mineral or fully synth. Many people seem to be happy with it. Its cheaper too.

luvjascha · 3rd April 2009, 12:34

What does a 1-litre can of Castrol Magnatec cost?

What about regular mineral oil brands such as Shell, Castrol GTX, Chevron, Valvoline, Elf & Mobil?

I was told by the local bunk owner that an oil change should be done every 5K km or 3 months, whichever comes earlier, if you live in Mumbai; 6 months, otherwise. Is it true?
My city-running is very low; the only time I put some miles is on cross-country trips.

luvjascha · 3rd April 2009, 14:16

Where, in Mumbai, can authentic products of Mobil, Shell & Castrol be purchased?

24th March 2009, 22:29	#1486
ravi@64bhp BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 602 Thanked: 11 Times	Any semi-snythtic oils for my Wagon-R?? Heard there is a semi-synth from Mobil. Is it avaialble in the market?
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24th March 2009, 23:05	#1487
swift8847 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bangalore/Houston Posts: 324 Thanked: 2 Times	Folks I know this might just be stupid question after the query I posted above but the question is, if I really need to change to synthetic oil?? I did go through the thread and after reading the posts I need to know if this change is mandatory for my kind of usage. I use this car for a max of 1000 kms a month. I will be using this car for about 5000 kms more and then it will go to my brother who is not really bothered as to what oil the car is running on. I don't rev the engine too much. The usual shift happens at about 2500-3500 rpm. I don't red line very often but it happens at lease once every time I drive. Last point, not sure if this makes a difference. I have low-mid range headers for the car. So should I get synthetic oil or the normal oil which the MASS uses?? Last edited by swift8847 : 24th March 2009 at 23:06.
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25th March 2009, 00:05	#1489
Raccoon Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Poona Posts: 1,851 Thanked: 116 Times	^^^Ya, mineral is fine, but no need to go with what they use at the MASS. You could get better stuff elsewhere...
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25th March 2009, 00:44	#1491
Raccoon Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Poona Posts: 1,851 Thanked: 116 Times	Sure, why not? You can get mineral or semi synth of so many other brands...
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26th March 2009, 01:01	#1495
normally_crazy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,305 Thanked: 543 Times View My Garage	Been using only synthetic oils in the vRS. Have used 3 brands till date. Mobil 1 (5W50) , Shell Helix Ultra (15W50) and now OWS (5W50) Have just driven about 50 kms on the OWS today. But amongst the 3, initial impressions when I changed the oil is that with OWS the engine is much smoother and quieter than Shell or Mobil. Will report as I pile on the miles.
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2nd April 2009, 20:19	#1497
luvjascha BANNED Join Date: May 2006 Location: BOM Posts: 429 Thanked: 2 Times	I went to get an oil change for our Swift (petrol) from my local gas station, and a 15W40 grade oil was used. I just checked the owner's manual, and Maruti recommends SF 20W40 (What's SF?) Will this cause the engine to run any differently, or will I experience any abnormal behavior in the car's performance/running? The oil was some MK brand, and read API-SJ. I didn't even bother asking if it was semi-synthetic or regular mineral oil. A 3-litre bottle cost me 592/- BTW, the car has done 23K km. What is the difference in price of a 1-litre bottle of regular mineral oil, and semi-synthetic oil? What are some good brands for both? Last edited by luvjascha : 2nd April 2009 at 20:28.
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3rd April 2009, 01:12	#1498
Raccoon Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Poona Posts: 1,851 Thanked: 116 Times	The grade should be ok for your car. You wont see anything abnormal. I dont think there is any MK brand of oil in the Indian market. Since you filled up at a petrol bunk, I suspect it was MAK. Its prolly not the best stuff available, but it'll do the job... so to speak. What you have used is definitely a mineral oil. One litre of mineral would cost approx Rs. 200 - 300 /litre. Fully synthetic usually retails between 750 - 1000 per litre, approx... depending on brand and dealer. Good brands for mineral - Mobil, Elf, Chevron, Shell, Valvoline, or any major brand... many choices. For synth - Mobil, Shell... Petronas is a south east asian brand which is worth considering for both mineral or fully synth. Many people seem to be happy with it. Its cheaper too.
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3rd April 2009, 12:34	#1499
luvjascha BANNED Join Date: May 2006 Location: BOM Posts: 429 Thanked: 2 Times	Brands & cost for petrol engines What does a 1-litre can of Castrol Magnatec cost? What about regular mineral oil brands such as Shell, Castrol GTX, Chevron, Valvoline, Elf & Mobil? I was told by the local bunk owner that an oil change should be done every 5K km or 3 months, whichever comes earlier, if you live in Mumbai; 6 months, otherwise. Is it true? My city-running is very low; the only time I put some miles is on cross-country trips.
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3rd April 2009, 14:16	#1500
luvjascha BANNED Join Date: May 2006 Location: BOM Posts: 429 Thanked: 2 Times	Where, in Mumbai, can authentic products of Mobil, Shell & Castrol be purchased?
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