ARTICLE: Synthetic oil vs Mineral oil

akshay4587 · 24th May 2009, 05:28

Guys My Accent has done around 6.5K kms on Mobil1 now in almost 6 months.
For how many kms more should i use the oil before draining it for new oil.

sirajbose · 24th May 2009, 06:04

Guys,

My Verna CRDi is up for its 20000 kms servicing, and I needed some opinions about the oil change. After going through all the posts its evident that semi synthetic or fully synthetic is the way to go, the only confusion is which one. Would appreciate it if someone could point me towards the right direction

Should I go for Semi Synthetic or Fully Synthetic?
Which exact product?
Where can I source it in Mumbai - I would prefer to pick it up myself
Do I need to get the engine flushing done before changing oils?

Thanks!

amit_mechengg · 24th May 2009, 10:27

i am using petronas syntium 3000 fully synthetic oil in my alto since 9.5 k kms.
i was willing to change the oil but when i checked the dipstick the oil still looks fresh, it has not lost its color (not yet blackened) and the viscosity is also okay.
i confirmed the same with the mechanic. now what shall i do, drive further say 2-3 k kms or straightaway change the oil?
the only thing i can infer from this is petronas has done its duty very well.

greenhorn · 24th May 2009, 13:29

I read somewhere that saying that the engine oil remains clear after extended use is like saying the soap is good because the dishwater looks so clear

nitrous · 24th May 2009, 13:32

Two possibilities:
1. Your engine is spik and span.
2. Petronas doesn't have a good detergent package.

ram_hyundai · 24th May 2009, 15:31

I am to change the oil for engine and gear box in my swiftZxi.Which is the preffered one for this.I had read the long term report of The mag.he has told the difference of using the syth ones.Any brand in specific has to be used .
kindly give sugestions team
ram

amit_mechengg · 24th May 2009, 20:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by ram_hyundai

I am to change the oil for engine and gear box in my swiftZxi.Which is the preffered one for this.I had read the long term report of The mag.he has told the difference of using the syth ones.Any brand in specific has to be used .
kindly give sugestions team
ram

i think mobil 1 80W90 shall do the duty very well.

Raccoon · 25th May 2009, 00:58

^^^Thats fully synthetic? I didn't know you get fully synthetic gear oils in India? Any idea about price?

Has anybody here used it? Any reviews?

amit_mechengg · 25th May 2009, 11:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raccoon

^^^Thats fully synthetic? I didn't know you get fully synthetic gear oils in India? Any idea about price?

Has anybody here used it? Any reviews?

no thats not at all fully synthetic. its a mineral based oil. mostly other oils are rated at just 90 weight and not 80W90. castrol has the greatest confusion. most of the dealers dont know this grade. they recommend TQ-D which is autotransmission oil. strangely there is no grade written on the oil and just a gear snap is put on the can. its very confusing. its written that it may be used with transmissions and power steering gear boxes.

finally after searching the whole pimri chinchwad area, i went to Raka Oil company and got 2 litres of mobil 80W90 oil.

sirajbose · 25th May 2009, 13:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by sirajbose

Guys,

My Verna CRDi is up for its 20000 kms servicing, and I needed some opinions about the oil change. After going through all the posts its evident that semi synthetic or fully synthetic is the way to go, the only confusion is which one. Would appreciate it if someone could point me towards the right direction

Should I go for Semi Synthetic or Fully Synthetic?
Which exact product?
Where can I source it in Mumbai - I would prefer to pick it up myself
Do I need to get the engine flushing done before changing oils?

Thanks!

Still waiting for your suggestions team. Would really appreciate the help.

Raccoon · 25th May 2009, 14:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by amit_mechengg

no thats not at all fully synthetic. its a mineral based oil. mostly other oils are rated at just 90 weight and not 80W90. castrol has the greatest confusion. most of the dealers dont know this grade. they recommend TQ-D which is autotransmission oil. strangely there is no grade written on the oil and just a gear snap is put on the can. its very confusing. its written that it may be used with transmissions and power steering gear boxes.

finally after searching the whole pimri chinchwad area, i went to Raka Oil company and got 2 litres of mobil 80W90 oil.

Oh ok. In that case it wont be Mobil 1. You mentioned Mobil 1, so I thought it must be fully synthetic.

Currently using IOC Servo oil of similar grade. Thats what the MASS puts in. Would like to use the Mobil gear oil instead... but don't know where I can get a genuine pack.

Castrol is always like that. And thats one of the reasons I don't like them. Even in some of their bike oils, they do not bother to mention even the viscosity. Its obviously a marketing plan - ordinary customer sees a pretty looking Castrol bottle, reads thats its for ALL bikes and just puts it in. If they write viscosity and all, it would limit the market for the product.

As for the automatic transission fluid, few years ago, when my dad was mantaining the car, this was given to him by an oil dealer. He thought it was ok, as it said its for the transmission. And he cooly had it put it into the manual transmission car. Gawd knows if he drove it like that.

Had to get it drained and refilled with Servo oil.

Castrol sux.

greenhorn · 25th May 2009, 17:27

siraj, actually with a few exceptions , most of us diesel vehicle owners are quite happy with mineral oils - with Chevron Delo 400 and Mobil Delvac MX being the favorites

check out http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...gine-oils.html for more info

sirajbose · 25th May 2009, 23:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by greenhorn

siraj, actually with a few exceptions , most of us diesel vehicle owners are quite happy with mineral oils - with Chevron Delo 400 and Mobil Delvac MX being the favorites

check out http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...gine-oils.html for more info

Greenhorn - Thanks for pointing me towards the right direction - Much appreciated!

ravi@64bhp · 26th May 2009, 00:50

Anybody has information about semi-synthetic oils from Mobil?

subbusos · 26th May 2009, 11:17

Please help me in deciding on whether to switch to the synthetic oil for my 6 months old i10. She has done 6700 kms till now. And she is due for second service by June 15th 2009.

Can I switch to synthetic, if yes, which brand to go?

24th May 2009, 05:28	#1576
akshay4587 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chandigarh/Mohali/Ambala Cantt Posts: 4,157 Thanked: 4,722 Times View My Garage	Guys My Accent has done around 6.5K kms on Mobil1 now in almost 6 months. For how many kms more should i use the oil before draining it for new oil.
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24th May 2009, 06:04	#1577
sirajbose BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 114 Thanked: Once	Need help Guys, My Verna CRDi is up for its 20000 kms servicing, and I needed some opinions about the oil change. After going through all the posts its evident that semi synthetic or fully synthetic is the way to go, the only confusion is which one. Would appreciate it if someone could point me towards the right direction Should I go for Semi Synthetic or Fully Synthetic? Which exact product? Where can I source it in Mumbai - I would prefer to pick it up myself Do I need to get the engine flushing done before changing oils? Thanks! Last edited by sirajbose : 24th May 2009 at 06:06.
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24th May 2009, 10:27	#1578
amit_mechengg Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 2,488 Thanked: 2,263 Times View My Garage	i am using petronas syntium 3000 fully synthetic oil in my alto since 9.5 k kms. i was willing to change the oil but when i checked the dipstick the oil still looks fresh, it has not lost its color (not yet blackened) and the viscosity is also okay. i confirmed the same with the mechanic. now what shall i do, drive further say 2-3 k kms or straightaway change the oil? the only thing i can infer from this is petronas has done its duty very well.
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24th May 2009, 13:29	#1579
greenhorn BANNED Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,878 Thanked: 4,910 Times View My Garage	I read somewhere that saying that the engine oil remains clear after extended use is like saying the soap is good because the dishwater looks so clear
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24th May 2009, 13:32	#1580
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 333 Times View My Garage	Two possibilities: 1. Your engine is spik and span. 2. Petronas doesn't have a good detergent package.
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24th May 2009, 15:31	#1581
ram_hyundai Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Calicut ,trisur Posts: 2,019 Thanked: 53 Times View My Garage	I am to change the oil for engine and gear box in my swiftZxi.Which is the preffered one for this.I had read the long term report of The mag.he has told the difference of using the syth ones.Any brand in specific has to be used . kindly give sugestions team ram
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25th May 2009, 00:58	#1583
Raccoon Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Poona Posts: 1,851 Thanked: 116 Times	^^^Thats fully synthetic? I didn't know you get fully synthetic gear oils in India? Any idea about price? Has anybody here used it? Any reviews? Last edited by Raccoon : 25th May 2009 at 00:59.
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25th May 2009, 17:27	#1587
greenhorn BANNED Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,878 Thanked: 4,910 Times View My Garage	siraj, actually with a few exceptions , most of us diesel vehicle owners are quite happy with mineral oils - with Chevron Delo 400 and Mobil Delvac MX being the favorites check out http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...gine-oils.html for more info
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26th May 2009, 00:50	#1589
ravi@64bhp BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 602 Thanked: 11 Times	Anybody has information about semi-synthetic oils from Mobil?
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26th May 2009, 11:17	#1590
subbusos BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 151 Thanked: Once View My Garage	Can I switch to synthetic for my i10 Kappa Please help me in deciding on whether to switch to the synthetic oil for my 6 months old i10. She has done 6700 kms till now. And she is due for second service by June 15th 2009. Can I switch to synthetic, if yes, which brand to go?
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