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| ![]() Quote: ![]() Btw - is this available in India ? CASTROL GTX HIGH MILEAGE 20W-50 | |
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| ![]() ^^^Once again, I have no idea why Castrol Magnatec is being compared to fully synthetic oils like Shell Helix Ultra and Edge, etc. Magnatec is NOT a fully synthetic product.... don't get fooled by the words "Synthetic technology"!!' In fact even Castrol's Edge may not be a true synthetic. I suspect they use severely hydro cracked base oil. I'm not 100% about it though. However the fact they don't even mention the details it more suspicious. Even the "intelligent molecules" and all that being hyped about Magnatec is suspect. Castrol is all about clever marketing... ![]() |
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I'm not a fan of Castrol but I know their standards of quality having used their products and compared them with other brands. I'd be amazed to hear one mech who doesn't recommend Castrol. This is why Castrol cans are in high demand with spurious oil makers. Coming back to the topic, Castrol EDGE is NOT clever marketing. I've personally seen race engines and formula cars being filled with Castrol EDGE and if it is not a proper synthetic that performs, Championship winning teams wouldn't go anywhere near it. | |
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| ![]() Has anyone tried "high mileage" engine oil ? I have a couple of petrol cars that are past the 100K km mark and require 2-3 liters of engine oil as top-up within a 5K km period. There are no leaks from the engine and I haven't noticed blue smoke at the exhaust either. I am trying to get hold of some "high mileage" oil as it claims to reduce oil consumption on such engines. I did find one such product at the Shell India website - Shell Helix High Mileage But - this oil is 25W-60. Should I try this in a M800 and Zen ? |
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| ![]() Mechanics? Since when do mechanics say sensible things when it comes to oils??? Castrol is obviously in demand because they have captured the market with their marketing, etc. Also, IIRC they were the 1st private oil company in India... then the only other choices available were PSU brands. So they had a headstart too. It is not so today when better products are available. While I'm not 100% sure about the Edge that is sold in India... I do know that Castrol was involved in a legal tussle (in the US) that made it possible to legally label non-fully synth oils as fully synth. Please note that I have not said that Edge or Castrol's other products are bad per se. What I'm saying is if Edge is indeed severely hydroprocessed, it is technically NOT a fully synth product. That does not make it a bad product, but it does make it an OVERPRICED product! Also if Edge is indeed a true synthetic (PAO/Ester basestock), why is this not being disclosed? I cannot imagine Castrol's clever marketing team not to mention this if it were! All the more reason to suspect that its not a true synthetic. I do not know what race cars use, etc. What I know is that it is not at all right to compare race conditions/enviroment for regular street use. Even if they use it in race cars, it does not at all mean its the best product for street use. They may have other reasons to use it for race engines which may be right/wrong... but it does not negate what I have stated above. |
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However, I seriously doubt that Castrol would falsely advertise esp on its flagship product. Can you provide reliable data/reports to back this up. Quote:
I have the Edge and am fully satisfied. Not that I have a race car, but I'd like to know that I did not get cheated by a 'Clever Marketing team'. | ||
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Please google for data... I'm sure you will find something. What is your definition of "fully satisfied"? From the way you have said it, I suspect you will say car goes smooth, no problems, etc, etc. And thats just not the point... ![]() And btw, the cleverest marketing is where the customer does not even realise that he has been cheated. ![]() | |
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Guess you haven't met the right mechanics who would make an IIT engineering graduate run for cover, forget enthusiasts. Quote:
Marketing can only take you so far. Quote:
Rs. 2300 for 4 Litres is excellent VFM. I don't remember the last time I so less for a product. That said, I speak from my experience with lubricants for so many years as i manage a fleet for pleasure and have used lubricants from Castrol, Shell, Valvoline, Pennzoil, British Petroleum, Mobil, etc. And I have personally used synthetic oils from OWS, Shell Helix Ultra, Mobil 1, Castrol EDGE. Last edited by nitrous : 21st April 2009 at 19:14. | |||
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So applying this logic, we should conclude that other companies as well are 'hydroprocessing' mineral oil to charge us heavily on something with no real extra benifit? Gee, we can find stuff on Google? Like I said since you are convinced about this, there must be somewhere where you read this. If you could enlighten us, we would be glad to accept that Castrol is pulling an excellent bluff on most of us on this thread. Quote:
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BHPian ![]() | ![]() ok guys now i am totally confused 3 days of searching the net and team bhp everyone seeems to have a different opinion some forums say this oil is the best other forums they say its crap even the manufacture websites take for example shell and castrol on their european sites they have shell helix ultra and shell helix ultra diesel castrol magnatec and castrol magnatec diesel different names for same product for petrol and diesel engines but in india no such differentiation for petrol and diesel engines what gives? ![]() btw my magnum needs 7 ltrs of oil shell helix ultra = rs 7105/- ![]() gm uses elf oil in their service centers 7 ltrs= rs 1260/- is my car going to fly or work underwater with the shell oil or is the oil going change by itself or regenerate itself once its efficacy is over? Last edited by dockap : 21st April 2009 at 23:31. |
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Senior - BHPian ![]() | ![]() For a 140bhp diesel saloon, I'd suggest you try sourcing the Mobil Delvac 1 Its the only API-CI4 rated synthetic oil. Rest are just API-CF which is actually obsolete in the US already. |
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| ![]() Gosh guys... I just mentioned what I know. Its upto you how you wanna use it. Don't wanna get into arguments/debates. I repeat I'm not saying that Edge or other Castrol products are bad per se. They are more like overrated/overpriced/overhyped. And this is a fact, like it or not - you may very well have bought fully synth oil which is actually dyno oil...... lol! You can't escape from the possibility of that! ![]() I asked to Google because I do not have links stored with me. It wasn't to cheese anybody off... lol! Quote:
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BHPian ![]() | ![]() Can I please draw the oil gurus' attention to this thread: https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techn...resetting.html (Basic ECM Resetting) Can I have a second opinion on this? |
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havoline synthetic not available will take a week but its 5w-30 so dropped the idea they had delo 400 and delo gold when i asked for delo 400 they said its for engines that run all day long and recommended delo gold for car engines so went for delo gold sae 15w-40 multigrade isosynthetic 7 ltrs cost -Rs 1282/-(one 5 ltr and two 1 ltrs cans) will change oil next week anyone here used delo gold before? | |
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| ![]() Is royal purple available in India? If it is, you should get it. I've seen the royal purple videos and it looks like it reduces wear and friction a lot. Check it out if you have time!~ |
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