[MotoChild]

Originally Posted by neil.jericho

A question for all those who have gone ahead with a pre-booking of the Himalayan 450 - are you planning to take delivery of the stock bike? Or will be you be speccing up the motorcycle with some accessories?

While talking to a sales person from Royal Enfield, I got to know what all those who have done the pre-booking are in a queue (MTO / MTS ? Some acronym was used). But the booking is for the stock bike. If these potential customers want to add accessories after the launch, then they get moved to another queue (MTS / MTO?).

Will people who have pre-booked the stock bikes get delivery before people who have customized their bikes after the configuration tool goes live? Right now, the sales people understandably dont know the answer to that question.

I pre-booked in the excitement of the official unveil on 7th November. There was some glitch with the website due to which my selection of Kamet White was registered as Hanley Black. There have been several exchanges of calls and emails with the Dealership & RE Support.

The reason for sharing that is, i did ask them about the accessories & the Make It Your (MIY) program. Here's what is my understanding of things:

• These Pre-Booking are for First Lot Production Bikes
• No Accessories can be added to them on the Royal Enfield App before delivery (There was no option on the pre-booking page, and post booking there is no option for adding accessories.)
• Although, the dealership from where you're purchasing will give you an option for installing accessories while delivery (My dealership confirmed this, although whether they'll have a good stock of all accessories or not, is a question.)
• I'm not sure whether these accessories(which are added by the dealership) will be covered under Insurance or not. And i am wondering the same for the Tubeless Spoked Wheels (which i'd like to upgrade to later).

Any booking made for the next lot, will have a different delivery timeline.

Will i be speccing it up?
I'm not sure about that, i think i'll be getting it vanilla and add some flavor along the way.


Something I Wanted to Ask You All
Although, the Bike seems to be packing loads of upgrades, i end up asking myself every day whether i should cancel this booking (for the first lot) and wait for the reviews to come in. It's a daily internal conversation, because i remember being at the frontline when the UCE Twinspark was introduced. And the amount of repeat visits i had to make for even the slightest issues, brings back bad memories. The mechanics weren't well trained back then in 2010.

For Those Who've Prebooked Like Me/ Plan to Book:

What problems do you forsee in this New Himalayan 452 that you're ready to deal with?
It's almost been a decade now, with this new Himalayan, It mostly is the service centers that concerns me. Their ability to handle the problem, and not the problem itself.
What do you think?

[Rahulkool]

One thing to note with made to order MTO bikes is that you dont pay for the stuff you change on the bike, like if you change the seat then you only pay the difference amount. If you opt to change the seat at the dealership then you end up with two seats.

[CodeEvo]

Originally Posted by Rahulkool

One thing to note with made to order MTO bikes is that you dont pay for the stuff you change on the bike, like if you change the seat then you only pay the difference amount. If you opt to change the seat at the dealership then you end up with two seats.

Is this true? I was toying around the MIY app for the twins and it looks like it shows the MRP for the accessories and not a discounted price.

[WhiskeyTangoFox]

Originally Posted by Rahulkool

One thing to note with made to order MTO bikes is that you dont pay for the stuff you change on the bike, like if you change the seat then you only pay the difference amount. If you opt to change the seat at the dealership then you end up with two seats.

Originally Posted by CodeEvo

Is this true? I was toying around the MIY app for the twins and it looks like it shows the MRP for the accessories and not a discounted price.

I don't think you pay the difference amount. From what I've seen you pay the full accessory price, but you don't have to deal with having two seats if you buy one later or the like. Of course, RE Dealers generally provide some sort of discount on accessories and riding gear purchased from them within a certain time period of picking up the bike.

[CodeEvo]

Originally Posted by WhiskeyTangoFox

I don't think you pay the difference amount. From what I've seen you pay the full accessory price, but you don't have to deal with having two seats if you buy one later.

Why would I not keep the stock parts with me and do whatever I want with it? I would only give up on those if I get a discount (more than the standard 10%)

I think it makes perfect sense to get the delivery and later add the accessories.

[WhiskeyTangoFox]

Originally Posted by CodeEvo

Why would I not keep the stock parts with me and do whatever I want with it? I would only give up on those if I get a discount (more than the standard 10%)

I think it makes perfect sense to get the delivery and later add the accessories.

Haha, to each his own. I've found that it's pretty difficult to get rid of stock parts cause not many actually want to buy them. More than the "I want it because I paid for it" regime, I prefer taking only what I need unless I can flip it, because it'll take up unnecessary space at home.

[aviator1101]

Originally Posted by aviator1101

Overall, if you see, apart from the cone set and stalling issues, no major problem has been brought out by any of the riders/reviewers.

One more issue has been brought out by the YouTuber named Twenty3Rides. The instrument console supposedly hangs when you try to change modes with ignition ON.

The error is displayed below which says Mode change denied. Retry in next ignition cycle



This is an one off incident because none of the other reviewers have reported this problem as yet. But, this gentleman was not at Manali for the organized briefings and rides for sure.

Now, whether he is not conversant with the functioning of the dash or is it an actual problem, needs to be ascertained during the test ride.

[shyamg28]

Originally Posted by aviator1101

One more issue has been brought out by the YouTuber named Twenty3Rides. The instrument console supposedly hangs when you try to change modes with ignition ON.

The error is displayed below which says Mode change denied. Retry in next ignition cycle

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This is an one off incident because none of the other reviewers have reported this problem as yet.

I believe this has been reported. We took a video of this too. It was my understanding that you cannot change modes on the go.

Revzilla called it out too - https://www.revzilla.com/common-trea...orcycle-review

There’s just one major problem. Riders can’t change modes on the go. Several times, I attempted to switch from Performance with ABS on to Performance with ABS off (they’re separate modes on the Himalayan. I know, I thought the same thing) just to be greeted by a message instructing me to cycle the ignition before making the swap.

[bharath79]

Originally Posted by aviator1101

One more issue has been brought out by the YouTuber named Twenty3Rides. The instrument console supposedly hangs when you try to change modes with ignition ON.

The error is displayed below which says Mode change denied. Retry in next ignition cycle

When you say hang do you mean that speedo, odo and other functions also do not work?

Regards
Bharath

[aviator1101]

Originally Posted by bharath79

When you say hang do you mean that speedo, odo and other functions also do not work?

Sir, two channels say two different things.

Twenty3Rides says that there is a perceptible lag in the console. The message shows change of mode denied.

Revzilla says the modes cannot be changed without switching ignition OFF and ON again, which is in consonance with the message on the console.

Exact issue can be ascertained only after a test ride or by someone like shyamg28 who has ridden the bike or experienced it himself.

[davelok]

Originally Posted by shyamg28

I believe this has been reported. We took a video of this too. It was my understanding that you cannot change modes on the go.

Revzilla called it out too - https://www.revzilla.com/common-trea...orcycle-review

If you have watched Noraly's video about the haunted village, she explicitly mentions having to stop the bike to switch to performance mode. Hers was a pre-production bike.

It's possible some of these early testers were not paying attention when they were being instructed.

[Drlmtukkar]

Also please go through the review by one Yammie Noob available on youtube. He mentions some issue when the bike’s engine just went dead below 3000 rpm on multiple occasions. It happened on 2 different bikes but it seems to have happened only on the bikes he’s ridden. No mention about this issue by anyone else.

But for everything else he gives the bike a big 👍🏼

[manaslu@2028]

Originally Posted by shyamg28

I believe this has been reported. We took a video of this too. It was my understanding that you cannot change modes on the go.

Revzilla called it out too - https://www.revzilla.com/common-trea...orcycle-review

Abhinav Bhatt was able to do mode changes on the go just by throttling down and holding the clutch. You can see that in his Youtube video. Link below. At about 6:05 he makes the change.

https://youtu.be/ZNqgc5IqDho?t=368

[NTab]

Originally Posted by MotoChild

Something I Wanted to Ask You All
Although, the Bike seems to be packing loads of upgrades, i end up asking myself every day whether i should cancel this booking (for the first lot) and wait for the reviews to come in. It's a daily internal conversation, because i remember being at the frontline when the UCE Twinspark was introduced. And the amount of repeat visits i had to make for even the slightest issues, brings back bad memories. The mechanics weren't well trained back then in 2010.

It’s not a good idea to rush and buy the first lot especially Without A Test Ride. That’s a very big risk. Give it few months, let the issues surface however small it is, and then decide whether you are ok to live with it or not. Don’t be a test subject for the first batch, especially when you are spending ~₹3-3.5L.

[shyamg28]

Originally Posted by manaslu@2028

Abhinav Bhatt was able to do mode changes on the go just by throttling down and holding the clutch. You can see that in his Youtube video. Link below. At about 6:05 he makes the change.

https://Youtu.be/ZNqgc5IqDho?t=368

Interesting! Good find.
Also noticed that he was only able to switch when he clutched in and more importantly, he could only cycle through Performance ABS ON and Eco ABS ON. ABS OFF on the go, was not an option.
And the moment he started throttling, it showed the same message as "Mode change denied. Retry in next ignition cycle"