[abhijitvp]

Originally Posted by Irish

A bad news for those who are planning to do Leh via Manali this time. An article in today's TOI suggests that one would need to take permission to take Non HP vehicle to Rohtang.

Source: Non-Himachal Pradesh vehicles banned on Manali-Rohtang national highway - The Times of India

What if someone wants to do Srinagar-Leh-Manali loop? In that case also one should get permission from HP?

[Irish]

Originally Posted by abhijitvp

What if someone wants to do Srinagar-Leh-Manali loop? In that case also one should get permission from HP?

No idea if the HP govt. is planning to make it compulsory for the vehicles entering the Rohtang Pass via Leh.

If the permission is NOT required to enter Manali via Leh - Rohtang, then it shall be very much clear that this move is 'influenced' by the great Kullu Manali taxi operators.

I have myself experienced around 10 - 12 years back when we were going on a sight seeing tour (via HP registered Omni cab) around Simla, there were around a dozen of taxi operators, who had formed a kind of barrier after Sanjouli (outskirts of Simla) and were not letting the other state's cabs to go towards Kufri on their own. There were NO police around and such barricade used to happen in the mornings between 9 - 11 AM to harrass other state cabs.


Cheers!
Irish

[tsk1979]

This ruling was there last year also.
Vehicles coming from Leh side do not have any issues. The issues come for vehicles climbing from manali side.
They have to get permits first.

[Irish]

Originally Posted by tsk1979

This ruling was there last year also.
Vehicles coming from Leh side do not have any issues. The issues come for vehicles climbing from manali side.
They have to get permits first.

So everybody going towards Leh / Rohtang from Manali last year, applied for the permits? Were there any check posts for checking the same?

Permits are not required, if coming from Leh side then there are chances that Taxi union is playing an important role in this.

Cheers!
Irish

[tsk1979]

Originally Posted by Irish

So everybody going towards Leh / Rohtang from Manali last year, applied for the permits? Were there any check posts for checking the same?

Permits are not required, if coming from Leh side then there are chances that Taxi union is playing an important role in this.

Cheers!
Irish

Of course its the taxi union making money.
People who do not want to cross(eg go to Leh etc.,) have to take local taxi instead of their own car. Look at the revenue boost they get.

[Gentle Giant]

Originally Posted by tsk1979

Of course its the taxi union making money.
People who do not want to cross(eg go to Leh etc.,) have to take local taxi instead of their own car. Look at the revenue boost they get.

And where are these permits to be procured from?

[tsk1979]

Originally Posted by Gentle Giant

And where are these permits to be procured from?

Here you go
Non – HP Vehicles Need Permit on Manali – Rohtang Pass Road - DeViL on WheeLs...

The above webpage containts all the details along with documents required.

[eltoro]

Originally Posted by hvkumar

Yes, better plan.
I would bet on Plan 2 above. More doable, also gives you buffer on Day 2 to reach Pathankot. IF you do better on Day 1, you can go beyond Pathankot too. I prefer the Behror halt because it will enable you to cross NCR before it wakes up.

I prefer the Jaipur-Behror-Rewari-Delhi-Panipat-Ambala route. I would avoid the slightly shorter Rewari-Rohtak-Panipat route. NCR is easy to navigate even if you do not know anything about Delhi.

Dear HVK Sir,

I am planning to go to Ladakh in Aug this year from Bombayalong with 4 friends. We will all be biking it from Delhi. The plan is that we will be loading our Bullets from Bombay on the Rajdhani and reaching Delhi on 4th Aug. We plan to do the Delhi-Chandigarh-Manali-Leh route and hope to be back by the same route to Delhi. We will be starting from Delhi on 5th Aug and plan to be back in Delhi by 17th Aug.

I wanted to know if these dates are feasible or are they over ambitious? Will it be possible for us to go and come back in 13 days. I would also be grateful if anyone could give us a tentative itinerary as I'm not able to plan where should we stop for the night, when we should reach certain destinations, etc.

[hvkumar]

Originally Posted by eltoro

Dear HVK Sir,

I am planning to go to Ladakh in Aug this year from Bombayalong with 4 friends. We will all be biking it from Delhi. The plan is that we will be loading our Bullets from Bombay on the Rajdhani and reaching Delhi on 4th Aug. We plan to do the Delhi-Chandigarh-Manali-Leh route and hope to be back by the same route to Delhi. We will be starting from Delhi on 5th Aug and plan to be back in Delhi by 17th Aug.

I wanted to know if these dates are feasible or are they over ambitious? Will it be possible for us to go and come back in 13 days. I would also be grateful if anyone could give us a tentative itinerary as I'm not able to plan where should we stop for the night, when we should reach certain destinations, etc.

Yes, I think you can do it.
Schedule could be as follows:
Aug 5 - Delhi-Chandigarh-Mandi
Aug 6 - Mandi-Kulu-Manali-Keylong
Aug 7 - Keylong-Jispa-Sarchu-Pang
Aug 8 - Pang-Leh
Aug 9 - Leh
Aug 10 - Leh-Khardung la-Leh
Aug 11 - Leh-Pangong Tso-Leh
Aug 12 - Leh-Lamayuru
Aug 13 - Lamayuru-Kargil-Dras
Aug 14 - Dras-Sonmarg-Srinagar
Aug 15 - Srinagar-Jammu
Aug 16 - Jammu-Delhi
Aug 17 - Buffer

I am worried about only the Aug 6th drive. You may have to adjust your schedule here and there, because of uncertainties in crossing Rohtang Pass.

[BlackPearl]

Gurus please suggest if the following schedule is doable -
14-Jun-12 Kolkata-Delhi
16-Jun-12 Delhi-Patnitop
17-Jun-12 Patnitop-Srinagar
18-Jun-12 Srinagar
19-Jun-12 Srinagar-Kargil
20-Jun-12 Kargil-Rangdum
21-Jun-12 Rangdum-Padum
22-Jun-12 Padum-Kargil
23-Jun-12 Kargil-Leh
24-Jun-12 Leh
25-Jun-12 Leh
26-Jun-12 Leh ("Tso Moriri via Pangong Tso(Man) ---- Need to
confirm")
27-Jun-12 Tso Moriri "Tso Kar / Panginagu(More Plains)"
28-Jun-12 Tso Kar / Panginagu(More Plains) - Jispa
29-Jun-12 Jispa-Manali
30-Jun-12 Manali-Delhi
1-Jul-12 Delhi-Kolkata

Also, how do we get permits to the following places -

Man Merak Chushul, Tsaga, Loma, Nyoma, Tso Moriri, Nubra Valley

[eltoro]

Originally Posted by hvkumar

Yes, I think you can do it.
===========================
I am worried about only the Aug 6th drive. You may have to adjust your schedule here and there, because of uncertainties in crossing Rohtang Pass.

Thanks for your prompt reply. We plan to come back using the Leh-Manali route itself as we want to avoid Srinagar on I-Day. Also we will be going on bikes so I guess the ride may be slower as I guess you have given a schedule that could be accomplished in a car.

I know I'm asking for too much but could you please help in giving a schedule that could be done on the Delhi-Chandigarh-Manali-Leh route and back the same way on Bullets.

[throttleking]

Originally Posted by hvkumar

Aug 5 - Delhi-Chandigarh-Mandi

HVK, how fast Pune - Delhi can be done? I have earlier done Pune- Mum-Guj-Rajasthan route and while coming back Delhi-Indore-Dhule-Pune.

Any better options?

Originally Posted by BlackPearl

16-Jun-12 Delhi-Patnitop

Delhi-Patnitop in one day, looks very aggressive to me, though it is only 700kms aprx.

[SS-Traveller]

Originally Posted by BlackPearl

Gurus please suggest if the following schedule is doable -
14-Jun-12 Kolkata-Delhi

24-26 hrs in your car, or a midway night halt at Benaras or Allahabad.

16-Jun-12 Delhi-Patnitop
17-Jun-12 Patnitop-Srinagar

Why don't you stop off at Amritsar and enjoy some really good food? Then go on to Srinagar the next day for more food...

26-Jun-12 Leh ("Tso Moriri via Pangong Tso(Man) ---- Need to
confirm")

Can't do Leh>Lukung>Man>Merak>Chushul>TsoMoriri in one day comfortably.

27-Jun-12 Tso Moriri "Tso Kar / Panginagu(More Plains)"

Tso Kar / Panginagu? You want to stay there overnight? Carry tents...

28-Jun-12 Tso Kar / Panginagu(More Plains) - Jispa

Can do Tso Moriri > Jispa in a day (12 hrs driving)

Also, how do we get permits to the following places -

Man Merak Chushul, Tsaga, Loma, Nyoma, Tso Moriri, Nubra Valley

All at Leh - DC's office or through agents (agent name and number listed on my Leh travelogue).

[SS-Traveller]

Originally Posted by throttleking

HVK, how fast Pune - Delhi can be done?

20-24 hours, depending on your car and your own stamina.

[SS-Traveller]

Sharing some amazing pics from Ladakh taken recently and sent over by a friend. Please don't ask for more details.

Pangong Tso thawing


Somewhere in Changthang


Road to Khardung La