The Cricket Thread

VWAllstar · 29th August 2018, 00:13

#MYXI P Shaw, K L Rahul, C Pujara, V Kohli (c), A Rahane, GH Vihari, R Pant (wk), R Ashwin, I Sharma, M Shami & J Bhumrah.

Even though H Pandya performed well still we need proper 7 batsmen. But Kohli and Shastri will make H Pandya play even on one leg.

hemanth.anand · 29th August 2018, 09:00

For the first time in Kohli's term as a test captain so far (38 Tests), we may see an unchanged team tomorrow...It's a baffling record that he has not played the same team for 2 consecutive matches! Dhawan,Rahul,Pujara,Rahane looked a lot better than the first 2 tests and Pandya with that 5-wicket haul and a 50 has pretty much sealed it. But if they come out with the "Horses for Courses" thing and play around with the bowling setup, the record will increase to 39.

selfdrive · 29th August 2018, 09:40

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Originally Posted by pratyush6

And, I don't think that's the way it works in India or anywhere else where the system is mature. Can cite several examples the other way - MSD, Hussey, Ajmal, Hayden, Herath.

Everyone seems to keep looking for the next child prodigy who can live the Tendulkar life. Start at 16 and play for 20 years.

For every Tendulkar that we found, we ended up burning out dozens of promising cricketers who could have done better if picked a few years later. At least now we have the IPL to sustain them in money terms. before IPL, many such other rejects got into such a poor rut that they barely even played for their Ranji teams later.

selfdrive · 29th August 2018, 10:37

http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/...er-odi-cricket

Interesting read with a lot of details. It confirms what some of us suspected about Bevan and Dhoni in ODIs

harry10 · 29th August 2018, 11:35

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Originally Posted by hemanth.anand

For the first time in Kohli's term as a test captain so far (38 Tests), we may see an unchanged team tomorrow...It's a baffling record that he has not played the same team for 2 consecutive matches! Dhawan,Rahul,Pujara,Rahane looked a lot better than the first 2 tests and Pandya with that 5-wicket haul and a 50 has pretty much sealed it. But if they come out with the "Horses for Courses" thing and play around with the bowling setup, the record will increase to 39.

Don't be so sure. Ashwin may not be fit and Jadeja may get in. Kohli can still keep this ridiculous record growing. Don't see Umesh coming in for Shami. I want to see same playing 11. Never change a winning combination

hemanth.anand · 29th August 2018, 11:40

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Originally Posted by harry10

Don't be so sure. Ashwin may not be fit and Jadeja may get in. Kohli can still keep this ridiculous record growing. Don't see Umesh coming in for Shami. I want to see same playing 11. Never change a winning combination

I know, I am not 100% sure at all

I only wrote that the possibility is high.
I read about Ashwin before posting here. He is fit and has bowled in all practice sessions it seems. However Shami may be replaced with Shardul or Umesh it seems. And if the pitch supports spin then Jadeja may come in as an additional spinner too.

carboy · 29th August 2018, 12:19

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Originally Posted by hemanth.anand

It's a baffling record that he has not played the same team for 2 consecutive matches!

Actually, the record is more damning than that. He has never played the same 2 teams ever - i.e. not just in consecutive matches. Each of his matches has had a unique team as compared to any of the teams he has captained.

PPS · 29th August 2018, 17:48

Bhuvi is fit again & has figures of 3-33 in the India 'A' game in the Quadrangular! Perhaps the selectors should send him off to England for the 5th test.

NPV · 29th August 2018, 19:05

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Originally Posted by hemanth.anand

For the first time in Kohli's term as a test captain so far (38 Tests), we may see an unchanged team tomorrow...

Agree, I hope the team remains unchanged simply because everyone did their bit (or more) in the previous test. Dhawan and Rahul did well, so no need to replace one of them with Prithvi Shaw.

Pujara did well and unless Kohli is unable to play, no need for Hanuma as replacement.

And despite all the doubts on Pandya he did end up doing well, so why replace him with someone else ?

Why fix something that ain't broken ?

But then you never know Kohli ...

kavensri · 30th August 2018, 14:51

I don't have a stats to back me up, but I just get the feeling that luck does not favor Indian captains during toss. Even during this ENG tour, Kohli has won the toss in 1st one day and lost 5 consecutively since then. Who knows, if he had won the toss in 2nd test, the result could have been completely different?
Anyway, eagerly waiting for the toss which happens in less than 10mins!

Edit: one more added to his list :(

kannan666 · 30th August 2018, 15:10

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Originally Posted by kavensri

I don't have a stats to back me up, but I just get the feeling that luck does not favor Indian captains during toss. Even during this ENG tour, Kohli has won the toss in 1st one day and lost 5 consecutively since then. Who knows, if he had won the toss in 2nd test, the result could have been completely different?
Anyway, eagerly waiting for the toss which happens in less than 10mins!

Well, we have lost the toss once again and Joe Root has elected to bat first, let's see how this one pans out as today we have the fire power to take advantage of a fresh pitch as well

hemanth.anand · 30th August 2018, 15:13

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Kohli: Would have batted first as well. Good grass covering, nice and even, probably the best pitch of the series. Good thing about it is that it's hard so you can get something out of it with the new ball. We have an unchanged XI. First time in a long time. Rightly so as well. Don't think we need to change looking at the conditions. We have all bases covered.

Finally!! the record of playing 38 unique teams has stopped.

VWAllstar · 30th August 2018, 15:27

38 unique teams and now an anomaly. But I still feel they should have gone with Shaw and Jadeja instead of Dhawan and Shami respectively. If not now then when do we give these young guns an opportunity?
I hope Dhawan proves me wrong. He has to hit a century in this match.

selfdrive · 30th August 2018, 15:41

I like the idea of losing the toss and winning the match.
Jennings gone plumb lbw

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Originally Posted by hemanth.anand

Finally!! the record of playing 38 unique teams has stopped.

46 according to Cricinfo

libranof1987 · 30th August 2018, 15:59

Considering how frequently Bumrah has been bowling a no-ball, shouldn't he be sent back to NCA to get this fixed.

It's almost like: Bumrah gets a wicket - let's check his foot - oh, it's a no-ball!

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VWAllstar BHPian Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Mumbai Posts: 963 Thanked: 2,461 Times	#MYXI P Shaw, K L Rahul, C Pujara, V Kohli (c), A Rahane, GH Vihari, R Pant (wk), R Ashwin, I Sharma, M Shami & J Bhumrah. Even though H Pandya performed well still we need proper 7 batsmen. But Kohli and Shastri will make H Pandya play even on one leg. Last edited by VWAllstar : 29th August 2018 at 00:14.
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29th August 2018, 09:00	#10622
hemanth.anand Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 3,275 Thanked: 14,706 Times View My Garage	Re: The Cricket Thread For the first time in Kohli's term as a test captain so far (38 Tests), we may see an unchanged team tomorrow...It's a baffling record that he has not played the same team for 2 consecutive matches! Dhawan,Rahul,Pujara,Rahane looked a lot better than the first 2 tests and Pandya with that 5-wicket haul and a 50 has pretty much sealed it. But if they come out with the "Horses for Courses" thing and play around with the bowling setup, the record will increase to 39.
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29th August 2018, 10:37	#10624
selfdrive Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Zurich Posts: 2,962 Thanked: 3,534 Times	Re: The Cricket Thread http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/...er-odi-cricket Interesting read with a lot of details. It confirms what some of us suspected about Bevan and Dhoni in ODIs
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PPS Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: mumbai Posts: 2,470 Thanked: 3,720 Times	Re: The Cricket Thread Bhuvi is fit again & has figures of 3-33 in the India 'A' game in the Quadrangular! Perhaps the selectors should send him off to England for the 5th test.
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kavensri BHPian Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: BengaLooru Posts: 327 Thanked: 738 Times View My Garage	Re: The Cricket Thread I don't have a stats to back me up, but I just get the feeling that luck does not favor Indian captains during toss. Even during this ENG tour, Kohli has won the toss in 1st one day and lost 5 consecutively since then. Who knows, if he had won the toss in 2nd test, the result could have been completely different? Anyway, eagerly waiting for the toss which happens in less than 10mins! Edit: one more added to his list :( Last edited by kavensri : 30th August 2018 at 15:05.
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VWAllstar BHPian Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Mumbai Posts: 963 Thanked: 2,461 Times	38 unique teams and now an anomaly. But I still feel they should have gone with Shaw and Jadeja instead of Dhawan and Shami respectively. If not now then when do we give these young guns an opportunity? I hope Dhawan proves me wrong. He has to hit a century in this match.
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30th August 2018, 15:59	#10635
libranof1987 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: All over! Posts: 7,617 Thanked: 18,345 Times	Re: The Cricket Thread Considering how frequently Bumrah has been bowling a no-ball, shouldn't he be sent back to NCA to get this fixed. It's almost like: Bumrah gets a wicket - let's check his foot - oh, it's a no-ball!
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