[itwasntme]

Another effort to ban 2 wheelers as well as a few highly effective proposals to combat over-speeding.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/...le22572507.ece

Ban two-wheelers on Electronics City flyover

[paragsachania]

Originally Posted by itwasntme

Another effort to ban 2 wheelers as well as a few highly effective proposals to combat over-speeding.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/...le22572507.ece

Ban two-wheelers on Electronics City flyover

This one will end up becoming the sole reason for further accidents even if these are just rumblers and not speedbreakers

speed rumblers at a gap of 750 metres to reduce speed

Even under normal circumstances, due to the way traffic on this road tails each other every day, it is a tough one to be able to slow down and brake in time when others do. Now imagine a first timer on this who slows down abruptly without much warning; Can become a reason for a pile-up!!

The problem with Elevated roads is very simple - You have limited vision ahead and near zero space around to take any corrective action to avoid a collision. People don't maintain distance between vehicles and this makes each driver of tailing traffic to just see one thing ahead which is almost like a stationary image.

[Vid6639]

I know it's not a popular thought, but I'm actually thinking banning 2 wheelers is not such a bad idea on the BETL.

The reason is there is really no shoulder and the lanes are narrow. Any 2 wheeler on that stretch is almost always at risk with vehicles passing from the left lane and cutting them off. To top it off the mopeds find it difficult to maintain 80Kmph.

The reason for the accidents is indiscipline and this will never change. It's always going to be like this. The truck driver coming from lay bye straight to right lane was an example and so was the overspeeding biker. Neither are the 2 wheelers saints and neither are other vehicles. Unfortunately every one has to suffer because of this.

Secondly there are many countries that have freeways which don't allow 2 wheelers below a certain CC / speed. Since that's impossible to enforce here, a blanket 2 wheeler ban is not so bad and kind of in the interest of everyone.

The rumblers on the other hand are a real bad idea. Idea is not to slow or add a block but smoothen out the traffic flow.

[Snehal Sekhar]

This happened today. The two wheeler accident happened a few minutes before I passed by the lay-by.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/...le23336595.ece

One of the victims fell off the elevated expressway
The Electronics City Elevated Expressway, when opened to the public in January 2010, promised to provide a faster and signal-free corridor for motorists. But the 9.98 km expressway has been racking up a high count of fatalities, with the most recent being the deaths of two software engineers in separate accidents on Friday.

In the first incident, Sharath Kumar Reddy, a 28-year-old software engineer working in Infosys, plummeted from the elevated expressway after his two-wheeler rammed into the retaining wall. He was heading to his house in Madiwala after work, said the police.

“He lost control of his bike and rammed into the retaining wall in a bid to take a turn at the lay-bay on the flyover. The moment the bike hit the wall, Sharath was flung from his bike. He fell over the retaining wall to the road below and died on the spot,” police said.

In another incident, a 38-year-old software engineer was killed after his car hit the retaining wall near the EC-2 lane. The deceased, Rajesh Jacob was taking a turn towards the phase-2 down ramp lane when he lost control. He collided with the wall, the impact of which crushed the front portion of the car.

Rajesh was taken to a private hospital where he succumbed to his injuries around 5.40 p.m. The police later summoned a crane to pull out the car, which was towed to the police station.

According to the police, Rajesh, a software engineer with IMB, was on his way to Electronics City from Bellandur to pick up his wife, who also works in an IT firm. “The deceased attempted to take a turn without slowing down his vehicle,” police said.

Both the cases have been registered at the Hulimavu traffic police station for further investigation.

[mvadg]

Originally Posted by Vid6639

I know it's not a popular thought, but I'm actually thinking banning 2 wheelers is not such a bad idea on the BETL.

Originally Posted by Snehal Sekhar

This happened today. The two wheeler accident happened a few minutes before I passed by the lay-by.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/...le23336595.ece

I saw that one! And I too started thinking along the lines of Vid6639- No other alternatives I can think of, except may be a police escort for a bunch of 2 wheelers at a time; or, a separate protected lane for them.

Lets face it, the easiest way out is to ban bikes. Unfair to the 2 wheeler riders, but they are not riding for pleasure and it would be best if they did not use the death trap - which it literally is.

[Arjun Reddy]

Originally Posted by Vid6639

I know it's not a popular thought, but I'm actually thinking banning 2 wheelers is not such a bad idea on the BETL.

I do remember that there was talk of banning two wheelers on the elevated road after a similar accident a couple of months ago. Not sure why it was not implemented.

They can easily control entry of two wheelers at the toll booths near Electronic City, not sure how they can stop the two wheelers from silk board. This section is unmanned.

They probably have to have security guards at the Silk Board ramp to ensure two wheelers do not enter the elevated. That is going to be dangerous as the traffic getting onto the elevated is extremely fast. I have seen speeds in excess of 80 kmph on the accent ramp. The only other option is to fine the two wheelers at the toll booth at Electronic City and hope that entry will eventually die down.

[Nikhilb2008]

Originally Posted by Arjun Reddy

I do remember that there was talk of banning two wheelers on the elevated road after a similar accident a couple of months ago. Not sure why it was not implemented.

They can easily control entry of two wheelers at the toll booths near Electronic City, not sure how they can stop the two wheelers from silk board. This section is unmanned.

They probably have to have security guards at the Silk Board ramp to ensure two wheelers do not enter the elevated. That is going to be dangerous as the traffic getting onto the elevated is extremely fast. I have seen speeds in excess of 80 kmph on the accent ramp. The only other option is to fine the two wheelers at the toll booth at Electronic City and hope that entry will eventually die down.

Security guards will only create bottlenecks.

They should put up a big board saying Two wheelers are banned. Any two wheeler that goes up and goes to the end of the toll way should be charged a fine of Rs 500. That will stop the two wheelers over a period of time.

[robimahanta]

They have recently made designated lanes for two wheelers at the toll booths.I am sure they are never going to ban two wheelers, its too big a loss of revenue for them. Every month some crash happens and there is some talk which eventually dies down till the next accident. Now they may just put up some speed cameras which will help them send challans but will be of no use to curb down two wheeler accidents on the flyover.

[avira_tk]

The toll booth never fails to amuse me, every once in a while there is an attempt to charge cash. Today, they kept the camera nearly perpendicular to the gate, so it wouldn't read the tag if you got close, like you normally would. The guy immediately said that I had to pay cash, I said no and reversed a bit, the light turned green.

The trick is that he uses the reader to open the gate and if you are not paying attention, he'll take the cash and your tag would also be deleted. What you think is the reader opening the gate is actually your tag opening it. I'm not expecting things to change anytime. Be careful when your tag is "not working", it just means the frauds are at it.

[SideView]

Anyone noticed telephone/radar/radio boxes placed along the elevated highway on poles? They seem to be spaced evenly approx 2km apart.


Any clue what those are? Speed sensors? Sadly i do not have a pic that i could share.

[paragsachania]

Crossposting from the Bangalore Traffic thread

Get ready for the annual toll revision if driving on BETL:

• Starting from July 1, commuters using the highway corridor between Electronic City and Attibele in Bengaluru will have to shell out an additional Rs 5 to Rs 10 while travelling both ways
• At Electronics City, two-wheelers are spared from the hike on single and return journeys but have to pay Rs 580 for the monthly passes up from Rs 560
• All vehicles, except bikers, will pay Rs 5 more for a single trip. The hike of Rs 10 for return journeys applies only to trucks and heavy construction machinery vehicles (MAV).
• Monthly pass rates have been hiked by Rs 20 for bikes, Rs 40 for cars, Rs 60 for light commercial vehicles (LCV) and Rs 120 for trucks and buses. Larger machinery will pay an additional Rs 245 for the same.
• At Attibele toll plaza, the single journey has been hiked by Rs 5 for LCVs and Rs 10 for MAV. Cars and buses will pay Rs 5 more for return journeys. The hike for monthly pass ranges between Rs 30 for bikes to Rs 185 for MAV

Source: Deccan Herald

[rohan_iitr]

I am using BETL's old Fastag in my car.

Will this continue to be valid, or do we need to purchase a new Fastag ?

What happens to the balance amount in old Fastag ?

Rohan

[vharihar]

I'm surprised. If widespread adoption of FASTag is showing improved toll recognition (due to forced *reduction* in cheating by toll operator), I was hoping to see a downward toll revision nationwide, over the next 6-12 months.

[pganapathy]

Originally Posted by SideView

Anyone noticed telephone/radar/radio boxes placed along the elevated highway on poles? They seem to be spaced evenly approx 2km apart.


Any clue what those are? Speed sensors? Sadly i do not have a pic that i could share.

I assume you are talking about yellow boxes. Those are emergency telephones. They will each have a reference number so that when you call from it and state that, the emergency services know where to find you.

[SideView]

Originally Posted by pganapathy

I assume you are talking about yellow boxes. Those are emergency telephones. They will each have a reference number so that when you call from it and state that, the emergency services know where to find you.

No not below, on the poles at an height has some antenna. Either it is some mobile related equipment or something similar.