My Experience With Adding Acetone in Petrol

black12rr · 27th August 2006, 23:48

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Originally Posted by Kaizer Sozay

FYI Maruti dosent even recomend Fuel with additives like speed & Power!!!

Not everything they say in manual can be followed .Like never red line everytime in each gear , will u listen

.Like cigarate smoking is injurious to health .I dont like these text book suggestions.Its you body and soul ( ment car ) , do whatever you can ,that makes it fit and fine .

finetuning · 28th August 2006, 00:13

When acetone added in small amount in fuel it mixes well.....we cant seperate it out.....also when fuel is burned inside combustion chamber...it burns totally......hence we cant find in any engine whats being used with fuel ....so I think no violation of any warranty..........

Enjoy.......

Steeroid · 28th August 2006, 01:51

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Originally Posted by varunroy

Hey Steeroid, How many kms have you clocked. Don't you think the acetone stuff may effect the extended warranty. I have'nt tried it because of the same reason.

About 22k - engine has become much smoother and more responsive (or is it just my imagination?) post 20k service and the vehicle seems to get better as it keeps logging up the kilos.

How would using 0.15 % Acetone void the warranty when the level of adultration in fuel these days is much much higher? At least we know what we're mixing here, which is more than what we can say about what we buy from the pumps. In any case, if the engine doesnt like the fuel it usually tells us about it with a much coarser note - its quite easy to find out when its had a drink from the wrong pub, so if it doesnt like Acetone I'm sure we'll know immediately.

I'll be glad if Tata Motors analyzes our fuel to check on warranty - that would tell us how bad the quality of our fuel really is.

Sahil · 28th August 2006, 03:28

I wanna try this on my Endeavour first. How much Acetone should i put per liter of DIESEL? (I currently use HP TurboJet)

yogi1771 · 28th August 2006, 10:32

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Originally Posted by Sahil

I wanna try this on my Endeavour first. How much Acetone should i put per liter of DIESEL? (I currently use HP TurboJet)

for diesel its 1.5ml/ltr and for petrol its 2.5ml/ltr

Kaizer Sozay · 28th August 2006, 12:40

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Originally Posted by yogi1771

for diesel its 1.5ml/ltr and for petrol its 2.5ml/ltr

Dear Yogi quite rightly put, but these are the upper limits, please try out vairous combinations to find which suits your car best.
E.g. in my MPFI zen i have got the best results with 2.0 ML per litre of acetone.

yogi1771 · 28th August 2006, 14:27

yeah kaizer i tried different limits for both my kinetic and fiesta right now using 2.5ml for kiney and 2ml for fiesta

Boom Shiva · 28th August 2006, 15:50

None of you guys are worried about your engines getting screwed?

I'm asking because I'm tempted, but I don't want to suddenly find smoke coming out from under the bonnet or any other such thing...

supremeBaleno · 28th August 2006, 16:25

Exactly what I was wondering ...

I mean, is anyone aware of the side effects of adding acetone, 2T oil (another thread) etc to fuel? And other than gut feel, is there any solid proof that the additive has any pros? It is like getting your car/bike after a service - we have this feeling that the vehicle is smooth and great. Even if all that was done was maybe a cursory check and a water wash. The cons might not have been documented and could end up proving costly in the long run.

Not to discourage anyone from experimenting. But just to be careful.

I, for one, would not even use anything other than normal unleaded in my car.

.anshuman · 28th August 2006, 16:31

I tried acetone in my car and found no difference to performance and fuel efficiency,so i dint find it worth spoiling the rubber and plastic parts in my tank,pump and injection system.

Kaizer Sozay · 28th August 2006, 16:33

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Originally Posted by Boom Shiva

None of you guys are worried about your engines getting screwed?

I'm asking because I'm tempted, but I don't want to suddenly find smoke coming out from under the bonnet or any other such thing...

I had the very same aprehension, when i came across this thread, but with nearly all the fuel pumps dispensing petrol with all kinds of impurities not to mention stuff like naphta, water in petrol which are known to cause harm.
The percentage of Acetone as well as the other tread of 2T is so very negligible.
I have kept a mixture of 400 ML Petrol + 25 ML Acetone & 20 ML 2T in a pepsi plastic bottle for two days to see if anythign goes wrong (like the Plastic Melting) but no effect.
Besides i guess there is no harm in trying it once, if you dont like it you can stop using it from the next tankfull.

finetuning · 29th August 2006, 00:09

I m wondering when we relate benefit of using tiny amount of acetone with servicing of the vehicle......its nothing like placebo effect.....infact it works wonders with fuels.........

There is small test to follow......on a hot plate try adding few drops of petrol or diesel...they will bounce...dance.... but take time to evaporate even though hot plate temp is high...this is because of high surface tension of fuel .....then try with acetone added in fuel.....u will see that fuel drops not only dances less but evaporates so fast..........this is what is happening inside combustion chamber.....this is felt as an improvement over existing performance curve......

Enjoy...........

gd1418 · 29th August 2006, 21:29

Hmmm....that is an interesting observation.. I will try it certainly...:-)

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Originally Posted by finetuning

I m wondering when we relate benefit of using tiny amount of acetone with servicing of the vehicle......its nothing like placebo effect.....infact it works wonders with fuels.........

There is small test to follow......on a hot plate try adding few drops of petrol or diesel...they will bounce...dance.... but take time to evaporate even though hot plate temp is high...this is because of high surface tension of fuel .....then try with acetone added in fuel.....u will see that fuel drops not only dances less but evaporates so fast..........this is what is happening inside combustion chamber.....this is felt as an improvement over existing performance curve......

Enjoy...........

rks · 29th August 2006, 22:14

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Originally Posted by finetuning

There is small test to follow......on a hot plate try adding few drops of petrol or diesel...they will bounce...dance.... but take time to evaporate even though hot plate temp is high...this is because of high surface tension of fuel .....then try with acetone added in fuel.....u will see that fuel drops not only dances less but evaporates so fast..........this is what is happening inside combustion chamber.....this is felt as an improvement over existing performance curve......

It seems that the "improved combustion" theory has been conclusively busted by one of the experts in the following link I cited earlier in this thread:

http://www.fuelsaving.info/acetone.htm

Quoting from this link:

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The theory, so far as I can tell, is that it enhances the vaporisation of the fuel and so reduces the fraction that is wasted by escaping unburnt out of the exhaust or past the piston rings. While I have no specific knowledge of the effect of acetone on fuel vaporisation, it is nonetheless very easy to demonstrate that it cannot give a useful benefit via this mechanism. It is very well known that the vaporisation of fuel in a modern engine under normal operating conditions is already very good, and only about 1 - 2% of the input fuel escapes unburnt. Hence, whatever the properties of acetone, it is extremely hard to see how the economy benefit can be more than this relatively small amount.

finetuning · 29th August 2006, 22:23

Well apart from all criticism against use of tiny amount of acetone I found that many has found very good benefit which cant be attributed to anything else.......most of people know their vehicle so well that even slight changes in performance is quite noticeable....is very difficult to say much about combustion chapter as its beyond the scope of this thread......even if we gain 2to5% then also its so worth......

Enjoy........

View Poll Results: I have TRIED it and have found that ...
It works wonders for my car/bike. I highly recommend it.	21	35.00%
Slight improvement, but I recommend it.	24	40.00%
No difference at all. Don't bother trying this non-sense stuff.	14	23.33%
It screwed my car!!! Stay away from acetone!!!	1	1.67%
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28th August 2006, 00:13	#167
finetuning BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 394 Thanked: 20 Times	When acetone added in small amount in fuel it mixes well.....we cant seperate it out.....also when fuel is burned inside combustion chamber...it burns totally......hence we cant find in any engine whats being used with fuel ....so I think no violation of any warranty.......... Enjoy.......
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28th August 2006, 03:28	#169
Sahil Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 6,360 Thanked: 8,087 Times	I wanna try this on my Endeavour first. How much Acetone should i put per liter of DIESEL? (I currently use HP TurboJet) Last edited by Sahil : 28th August 2006 at 03:30.
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28th August 2006, 14:27	#172
yogi1771 BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: mumbai Posts: 697 Thanked: 16 Times	yeah kaizer i tried different limits for both my kinetic and fiesta right now using 2.5ml for kiney and 2ml for fiesta
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28th August 2006, 15:50	#173
Boom Shiva BANNED Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,044 Thanked: 19 Times	None of you guys are worried about your engines getting screwed? I'm asking because I'm tempted, but I don't want to suddenly find smoke coming out from under the bonnet or any other such thing...
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28th August 2006, 16:25	#174
supremeBaleno Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chennai / Kochi Posts: 5,676 Thanked: 2,919 Times View My Garage	Exactly what I was wondering ... I mean, is anyone aware of the side effects of adding acetone, 2T oil (another thread) etc to fuel? And other than gut feel, is there any solid proof that the additive has any pros? It is like getting your car/bike after a service - we have this feeling that the vehicle is smooth and great. Even if all that was done was maybe a cursory check and a water wash. The cons might not have been documented and could end up proving costly in the long run. Not to discourage anyone from experimenting. But just to be careful. I, for one, would not even use anything other than normal unleaded in my car. Last edited by supremeBaleno : 28th August 2006 at 16:28.
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28th August 2006, 16:31	#175
.anshuman Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Good-Gaon Posts: 7,763 Thanked: 11,136 Times View My Garage	I tried acetone in my car and found no difference to performance and fuel efficiency,so i dint find it worth spoiling the rubber and plastic parts in my tank,pump and injection system.
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29th August 2006, 00:09	#177
finetuning BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 394 Thanked: 20 Times	I m wondering when we relate benefit of using tiny amount of acetone with servicing of the vehicle......its nothing like placebo effect.....infact it works wonders with fuels......... There is small test to follow......on a hot plate try adding few drops of petrol or diesel...they will bounce...dance.... but take time to evaporate even though hot plate temp is high...this is because of high surface tension of fuel .....then try with acetone added in fuel.....u will see that fuel drops not only dances less but evaporates so fast..........this is what is happening inside combustion chamber.....this is felt as an improvement over existing performance curve...... Enjoy...........
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29th August 2006, 22:23	#180
finetuning BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 394 Thanked: 20 Times	Well apart from all criticism against use of tiny amount of acetone I found that many has found very good benefit which cant be attributed to anything else.......most of people know their vehicle so well that even slight changes in performance is quite noticeable....is very difficult to say much about combustion chapter as its beyond the scope of this thread......even if we gain 2to5% then also its so worth...... Enjoy........
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