Indica Vista - list of Known problems

trrk · 8th March 2009, 13:19

Hi,

Quote:

Originally Posted by kailashnj

When we took the delivery, I realized that the rear door at the passenger side would not open from inside. (This was the first time that we tried to open that door from inside.) It was repaired on the spot by applying some oil, don’t know how long will it work properly.

Oil, where? The usual cause for passenger doors at the rear not opening fro inside is due to the child lock.

kailashnj · 8th March 2009, 20:17

Hi trrk,

I know about the child lock. It was not applied. The door even though child lock was not used, did not seem to be opening through the inside door lock release. Hence the guy opened the door and applied at the lock hinges in the insides of the door and after some time the door would open without any fuss.

Regards,
Kailash

travelex · 8th March 2009, 23:45

All these issues are scaring me right at the time I was at the stage of finalising aura quadrajet over Swift VDi. These issues do look serious but are they serious enough to deter a new buyer who has never driven a Tata car in the past?
I mean are all the reviews from the owners negative or do we have some who would vouch for vista over swift?

janitha · 9th March 2009, 06:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by travelex

All these issues are scaring me right at the time I was at the stage of finalising aura quadrajet over Swift VDi. These issues do look serious but are they serious enough to deter a new buyer who has never driven a Tata car in the past?
I mean are all the reviews from the owners negative or do we have some who would vouch for vista over swift?

I am using Vista Aqua for little more than one month and 1000+ kms. Only problem is with rubber beadings which I will get replaced in the first service within the next few days.

Maverick1977 · 9th March 2009, 13:14

Hi Travelex, I have been driving the car almost on a daily basis since the past 3 months now (4K on the odo). I do agree that the car has its more than fair share of problems. However majority have been taken care of the 1st time itself that they occured. Majority of these problems arise due to an absolutely horrendous Quality Control program. A strict quality control on their end would definitely eliminate all of them.
Between the Swift & the Vista - If U want a car which is fun to drive & dont have more than 4 ppl to carry (with absolutely minimal luggage) then the Swift is the car for U. Waiting period is a diff story.
However, if U want loads of cabin space coupled with a car which is more loaded than the swift but priced slightly lesser, then Vista should be your choice.
I am sure owners of both the cars will go to every extent to defend their respective choice.
1 point which definitely goes in favor of the Vista is its beautiful road presence on the open highways. Doing speeds in excess of 140 is a breeze. None of my co-passenger event felt that I was doing such speeds.

greenhorn · 9th March 2009, 13:32

Travelex , you know about beta softwares right ? you get stuff free/ at a lesser price, in return for using an almost finished product, and helping them fix the remaining ones. The vista is kinda like that

Having said that , i doubt if there are any major issues involved

anupmathur · 9th March 2009, 13:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by greenhorn

Having said that , i doubt if there are any major issues involved

Ah, there we go again, trying our very best to somehow exonerate a company that has repeatedly failed on QC!

What is minor to one could be unacceptable to another!

Maverick1977 · 9th March 2009, 14:39

I get a feeling that people are generally very unforgiving towards the Tata Group. I very distinctly remember some one appreciating the engine & gear box & the very next post reprimanded the earlier one by mentioning that the same were from Fiat & not Tata’s. However no one ever pointed out that even the Swift uses the same diesel engine. Why this bias towards Tata motors?
Some time I feel that the typical Indian mentality that all things foreign are always better applies here big time. I face this prob at my office regularly. At the drop of a hat they are up in arms against the Vista. I am sure these fellows have never even driven a Vista in their lives, but would love to bad mouth it. I just shut them by saying that the Vista seems to be giving them a complex & since they can’t do anything about it, they try to run down the product. This make them quiet... at least for a few more days!!!

harry10 · 9th March 2009, 14:54

@MAverick- Quiet right. General perception is like that. We all want troublefree products. But the truth is every product by whosoever manufacturer has some or the other defect in it. Some are highlighted and some are not.

trrk · 9th March 2009, 17:03

Hi,

Quote:

Originally Posted by kailashnj

I know about the child lock. It was not applied.

I am sorry I put it that way.

Usually the child lock thing is not thought of and since it was a new car, I assumed it must be that.

Thanks for the picture. You learn a new thing every day.

driving_smartly · 9th March 2009, 23:24

Slightly out of topic

I have a hyundai santro withing first 3 months had had ernormous problems with the car ... same door problem like kailash which occured twice in a month then the actuators with all doors had problem which was replced. AC thermosat was replaced, becuase the car use to heat up and there was no pick at all.

First three months were horrible experience for me but after that till date i never had any problem.

May be a product or too gets somethings that are not part of standard fittings or a matter of quality control.

Me to thinking of going in for vista quadrajet in two months time.
hope to get the best................

kailashnj · 10th March 2009, 01:23

Travelex,

i know the issues that I have been facing with the car, but trust me I will still recommend this car to people who are looking for a good diesel hatch. Vista is a very good VFM car and Tata has improved 10folds over its predecessor. The issues that I have faced could be a one of situations and I can say that I am unlucky in vista but not everyone is facing the AC condensor issues. The issues that everyone is facing are very minuscule and like some one said - no car will be trouble free, there would be some niggling problems in the car. But still this is VFM over swift and also swift feels so cramped compared to Indica that you start hating Swift once you have used the Indica vista. It has all the ingredients to be a super hatch.

Regards,
Kailash

10th March 2009, 18:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maverick1977

I get a feeling that people are generally very unforgiving towards the Tata Group.

Quite the opposite, people are very gentle on Tata because they are Indian.

dvinod · 10th March 2009, 19:08

if you start a thread - swift/i10/santro list of known problems, you will also get more similar problems. The point is nobody starting these threads because they bought these cars at a premium and they don't want to disclose their problems.

greenhorn · 10th March 2009, 19:43

but the difference is , maruti/hyundai mechanics can diagnose and fix these problems.

But for tata cars, we need to point the problems to the mechanics ourselves and tell them what needs to be done. thats why we have a thread for the indica as well.

The car is fine , and probably has a few initial hiccups. like you've said dvinod, swift/i10 have also had their problems - clutches , gearboxes etc, but the manufacturers and service centers were proactive and issued recalls/fixes unobtrusively.

Not quite with tata service centers, and hence the need for this thread.

8th March 2009, 20:17	#62
kailashnj BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 958 Thanked: 375 Times	Hi trrk, I know about the child lock. It was not applied. The door even though child lock was not used, did not seem to be opening through the inside door lock release. Hence the guy opened the door and applied at the lock hinges in the insides of the door and after some time the door would open without any fuss. Regards, Kailash Attached Thumbnails
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8th March 2009, 23:45	#63
travelex BHPian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: New Delhi Posts: 132 Thanked: 101 Times	All these issues are scaring me right at the time I was at the stage of finalising aura quadrajet over Swift VDi. These issues do look serious but are they serious enough to deter a new buyer who has never driven a Tata car in the past? I mean are all the reviews from the owners negative or do we have some who would vouch for vista over swift?
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9th March 2009, 13:14	#65
Maverick1977 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 999 Thanked: 924 Times View My Garage	Hi Travelex, I have been driving the car almost on a daily basis since the past 3 months now (4K on the odo). I do agree that the car has its more than fair share of problems. However majority have been taken care of the 1st time itself that they occured. Majority of these problems arise due to an absolutely horrendous Quality Control program. A strict quality control on their end would definitely eliminate all of them. Between the Swift & the Vista - If U want a car which is fun to drive & dont have more than 4 ppl to carry (with absolutely minimal luggage) then the Swift is the car for U. Waiting period is a diff story. However, if U want loads of cabin space coupled with a car which is more loaded than the swift but priced slightly lesser, then Vista should be your choice. I am sure owners of both the cars will go to every extent to defend their respective choice. 1 point which definitely goes in favor of the Vista is its beautiful road presence on the open highways. Doing speeds in excess of 140 is a breeze. None of my co-passenger event felt that I was doing such speeds.
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9th March 2009, 13:32	#66
greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,845 Thanked: 4,762 Times View My Garage	Travelex , you know about beta softwares right ? you get stuff free/ at a lesser price, in return for using an almost finished product, and helping them fix the remaining ones. The vista is kinda like that Having said that , i doubt if there are any major issues involved
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9th March 2009, 14:39	#68
Maverick1977 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 999 Thanked: 924 Times View My Garage	I get a feeling that people are generally very unforgiving towards the Tata Group. I very distinctly remember some one appreciating the engine & gear box & the very next post reprimanded the earlier one by mentioning that the same were from Fiat & not Tata’s. However no one ever pointed out that even the Swift uses the same diesel engine. Why this bias towards Tata motors? Some time I feel that the typical Indian mentality that all things foreign are always better applies here big time. I face this prob at my office regularly. At the drop of a hat they are up in arms against the Vista. I am sure these fellows have never even driven a Vista in their lives, but would love to bad mouth it. I just shut them by saying that the Vista seems to be giving them a complex & since they can’t do anything about it, they try to run down the product. This make them quiet... at least for a few more days!!!
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9th March 2009, 14:54	#69
harry10 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Faridabad/Delhi Posts: 2,741 Thanked: 3,912 Times View My Garage	@MAverick- Quiet right. General perception is like that. We all want troublefree products. But the truth is every product by whosoever manufacturer has some or the other defect in it. Some are highlighted and some are not.
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9th March 2009, 23:24	#71
driving_smartly BHPian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: MH43 & MH14 Posts: 519 Thanked: 305 Times View My Garage	Slightly out of topic I have a hyundai santro withing first 3 months had had ernormous problems with the car ... same door problem like kailash which occured twice in a month then the actuators with all doors had problem which was replced. AC thermosat was replaced, becuase the car use to heat up and there was no pick at all. First three months were horrible experience for me but after that till date i never had any problem. May be a product or too gets somethings that are not part of standard fittings or a matter of quality control. Me to thinking of going in for vista quadrajet in two months time. hope to get the best................
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10th March 2009, 01:23	#72
kailashnj BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 958 Thanked: 375 Times	Travelex, i know the issues that I have been facing with the car, but trust me I will still recommend this car to people who are looking for a good diesel hatch. Vista is a very good VFM car and Tata has improved 10folds over its predecessor. The issues that I have faced could be a one of situations and I can say that I am unlucky in vista but not everyone is facing the AC condensor issues. The issues that everyone is facing are very minuscule and like some one said - no car will be trouble free, there would be some niggling problems in the car. But still this is VFM over swift and also swift feels so cramped compared to Indica that you start hating Swift once you have used the Indica vista. It has all the ingredients to be a super hatch. Regards, Kailash
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10th March 2009, 19:08	#74
dvinod Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: coimbatore Posts: 19 Thanked: 2 Times	if you start a thread - swift/i10/santro list of known problems, you will also get more similar problems. The point is nobody starting these threads because they bought these cars at a premium and they don't want to disclose their problems.
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10th March 2009, 19:43	#75
greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,845 Thanked: 4,762 Times View My Garage	but the difference is , maruti/hyundai mechanics can diagnose and fix these problems. But for tata cars, we need to point the problems to the mechanics ourselves and tell them what needs to be done. thats why we have a thread for the indica as well. The car is fine , and probably has a few initial hiccups. like you've said dvinod, swift/i10 have also had their problems - clutches , gearboxes etc, but the manufacturers and service centers were proactive and issued recalls/fixes unobtrusively. Not quite with tata service centers, and hence the need for this thread.
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