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Originally Posted by apachelongbow I feel pained at your experience. Technically the previous owner has committed fraud by not letting you know about the car's accident and subsequent repairs. I am sure you had asked him if the car had met with any accident before buying it. |
Thank you for sympathizing apachelongbow. Even before looking at the car the first question I had asked was, if the car has met with any minor/ major accidents and the obvious reply to my query was "NO"
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Please remember before buying any second hand vehicle, is to take its engine number and chassis number, and visit the nearest authorized workshop to check about the car's history.
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When I got various proposals from agents I did visit the showroom, but only to be told that they don't share the service history with third persons and owner has to accompany the car or the third person. Since this was a case of individual seller (and not through agent) and that too a decent family (remember the owner's father is a retired General Manager in State Transport), I did not dig deep into getting the service history of the car checked. I did ask for the service invoices and he handed over to me the latest few. I went ahead purely based on trust and my instinct.
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For now you can meet the owner if you so wish, but don't expect any positive outcome by accusing him about his hiding of the accident.
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No not at all, there is no point in crying over spilled milk. I only hope and wish he gives me the 4 digit code or hands over the spare key to me.
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Are you sure about which chassis number is there in your R/C book? is it the new chassis number or the old chassis number? Also what is the chassis number in your transfer form (Form 15 i think)? If both R/C book and the transfer form contain the old chassis number you can drag the previous owner to court and jail for fraud.
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In all documentation it is the new chassis number only, RC book, insurance etc, transfer form etc. I don't want to trouble the previous owner in any which way. There is a saying in Marathi, "Yaachi dehi, yaachi dola", meaning "As you sow, so shall you reap". If he has done any wrong, the almighty would take care to compensate it. Who am I to wish him bad or even think of his ill.
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Originally Posted by vin11 Well, this is really shocking! This is the risk associated with pre-owned cars. But as you said, the chassis had been replaced and I doubt whether the structural integrity would have taken a hit. It is a good idea not to let your family members know about this as this will make them feel sad and cheated. Nothing can be done now, you have the car with you and nothing is going to change. You must visit the previous owner and talk to him about this. But keep your cool and act wisely. The 'only' wrong deed of the previous owner was that he didn't tell you about the accident. Not taking his side, but I am saying that act wisely instead of getting enraged as nothing major can be changed now.
Nice to know that it is performing well though. I am a silent reader of this thread since the beginning.
Sorry, but out of curiousity, I wanted to know how exactly did you get the info about the accident. |
Thanks for your concern and advise vin11. If I think too much negative about my previous it is only going to damage me. So I have already forgiven him. I came to know about this today at the service centre, when my Service Advisor informed me that they don't have the key code as this is a different key and the original chassis number and the current one are not matching. He then showed me the complete list of parts involved in the accident repair work carried out at the same workshop. Unfortunately I couldn't get a print out. He has promised me to mail it after discussing with his superiors.
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Originally Posted by noidea Such a painful experience ! As against raving and ranting, I am sure it will be better to stay calm and get your vehicle checked for roadworthy-ness again.
Since you have done extensive modification and none of the mechanics/ workers have pointed out to you that it is a post accident repaired vehicle I am sure the damage was not as bad as it sounds. Now with the trust factor in the negatives, you cannot trust a word that the seller says, so it is no use asking him.
And if you use it within city limits I assume it will not be a cause for major concern. |
Absolutely agree with you noidea. The vehicle rides and behaves as if just out of the showroom (believe me I am not exaggerating it). Even fellow TBHPian Shahbaaz has drive my car and he couldn't find anything untoward (except the humming noise), which has been fixed by rear wheel bearing replacement. I have driven the car on all types of terrain (roads and no roads), no problems whatsoever. Also driven at 120 kmph on Mumabi-Pune expressway, it is very stable. So no doubt the car is road-worthy, only if I had know about this incident well before hand.
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Originally Posted by speedmiester Sorry to hear about the ordeal.
There is no point in taking to the seller as always it's "Buyers Beware", when it comes to any used products.
Get the car completely checked once and use it till you can.
You can never be really careful when you buy used cars.
I have come across instances where the RC cards are modified to make the cars "Single owner" cars while essentially they could be owned by multiple owners. |
Exactly speedmiester, when I was buying the car I should have taken all the necessary precautions, my fault. But I am still not repenting on my decision. If the Service Advisor had not shown me the records, I would have never known in my entire life that this car has gone through such a major operation.
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Originally Posted by Shanksta - Expression while reading your post.
That was really bad of the previous owner not letting you know about this. If it was a small shunt and maybe the bumper had to be replaced, then not letting you know about that is acceptable(even though you should mention everything).
But, I am seeing big words like Chassis, Radiator, AC Condenser and Top roof which means it was welded back. It pains just realizing that. Maybe the door hinge issue was related to this? |
You are spot on Shanksta. The door hinges and the bearing issue could well be related to this incident and had shown up only after prolonged usage. Nevertheless both have been fixed for good now.
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Good to know that you have decided not to tell this to your family. Only once you tell will they start finding, feeling, hearing - cons, vibrations and noises. I hope they don't know about this thread.
On a lighter note(no offense), had he mentioned this accident you could have further saved a lakh or two on the price paid.
P.S. Check the date of manufacture on the windshield and other windows to know whether this actually happened. Also the chassis no. mentioned in the VIN plate and the one in the RC book.
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Fantastic points there. When I am at the wheel and it is my car none of my family members are bothered about where we are going, how the road is or any other damn thing. They completely trust me and my car. They know that I do keep posting on TBHP, but no one has ever bothered to go through it themselves unless I show it to them.
I absolutely agree with you. Had he mentioned this accident I could have further saved a lakh or two on the price paid, probably he didn't want to take a big hit on resale price or even lose the deal, hence ket quiet.
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Originally Posted by amit_purohit20 Feel sad to know about your ordeal. Good that you are not informing any of this to your family.
If the whole chassis was replaced, I doubt you will have structural integrity problems. As Innova is a body on ladder construction replacing complete chassis should solve basic structural problems. If your vehicle is behaving properly I do not think you should face any major problems. Get your vehicle checked to at least get an overview of your vehicles present condition compared to the damages it had suffered in previous crash and the parts replaced. |
Spot on Amit. Now DSK has serviced my car 4 times after I took the ownership and have taken at least dozen trials. In none of them did they observe anything alarming. It was only me who pointed out the rattling doors (hinges replaced) and humming noise (bearing replaced). Car is completely niggle free now (touchwood)