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Old 10th December 2011, 15:16   #151
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Re: My Hyundai i20 CRDi Asta is here!! *UPDATE* 29,000 kms! Fuel Pump & Injector fail

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New battery installed last week.
New ones can go flat too...
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They do, but Hyundai has instructed them to dispatch to Maharashtra!
I would have understood if it was dispatched to Chennai, but the logic of sending to MH beats me! Or is your SA just bluffing to buy more time to diagnose the issue?
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They have no injectors/pumps in stock anyway!!
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Even with a replacement fuel pump...
Ask for the one they used to test, as a loaner...
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EsteemLover @ Apparently the pumps seals have given away, due to which the pressure in fuel line is dropping... When cooled down abd then started, the pump still works perfectly.
Please also check the fuel pump relay which is VITAL, i did the same routine on my 13 year old Esteem 2 years back(it used to stop anytime only to start after a little rest) and after changing the fuel pump motor, found out that it was the relay which gets heated up and stops working, got one from the used market for 500 bucks and everything is fine.

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New ones can go flat too...

@SSTraveller, what makes you to think that the issue is with the battery, it was clear from the first post that the car cranks, but does not fire, right ?
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Re: My Hyundai i20 CRDi Asta is here!! *UPDATE* 29,000 kms! Fuel Pump & Injector fail

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@SSTraveller, what makes you to think that the issue is with the battery, it was clear from the first post that the car cranks, but does not fire, right ?
Wrong. Please read the owner's own words...
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...the cranking is extremely strained and late... as if the battery is flat...
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Old 10th December 2011, 23:41   #154
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So is the fuel pump and injector the only disadvantage of modern diesels? Or is this a One off case like the several One off cases of the accent CRDi diesel which used to pack up after 1.5 lakh km?

I sure hope its at least repairable.
One of my close friend had the same problem with his Accent CRDi after it had run 1,3 Lakh km. I thought Hyundai is over this, but sad to see that even the new gen engines are reporting injector and pump failures.
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Have sent Hyundai feedback via the online form, does anyone have any email ids I can sent the complaint to?
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Update .... and its not a good one...

Car has been with the A.S.S. since 5th December (5 Days including today)

Final diagnosis :

1) Fuel Pump failure
2) Injector Failure

Approx Cost for new components as advised by A.S.S. : Rs 1.6 lakh!! 80000 for the pump!! 20000 for each injector!! However, if all goes well, thankfully it should be covered under extended warranty.

Time Required: 25 - 30 days more.


The pump and injectors will be sent to Bosch Authorized Guys somewhere in Maharashtra. They will examine the parts and then refurbish/replace.

All this, after 29000 kms, 2 years 4 months!! The car has been serviced as per manufacturer recommendations, at authorized A.S.S.

Fuel taken at only one petrol pump, where I have been tanking up since the last 5+ years and also tank up my CRV.

I bought a Hyundai for 7.4 lacs .. and the primary reason for the purchase was reliability. I am now without a car for a month!!

If this car is not designed to run on indian diesel, why sell it here? Even though I travel to the suburbs everyday, I only tank up at my regular pump at Alipore. What if I wouldn't have taken extended warranty?
The last line says it all. For those who refuse extended warranty on grounds that these few extra thousands are a huge waste of money, let them read the above post over...and over again.

Fate (good or bad) strikes everyone when they least expect and God forbid someone who happens to be hit by a Rs 1.6 lakh bill (in a car under 30 months old) simply because he/she found Rs 5-7k a waste of money.

Forget about the third and fourth year extended warranty, I have even paid Rs 2K extra as insurance for nil depreciation (Tata AIG), to ensure that I have 100% peace of mind when my family and I are inside our i10.
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The last line says it all. For those who refuse extended warranty on grounds that these few extra thousands are a huge waste of money, let them read the above post over...and over again.

Fate (good or bad) strikes everyone when they least expect and God forbid someone who happens to be hit by a Rs 1.6 lakh bill (in a car under 30 months old) simply because he/she found Rs 5-7k a waste of money.

Forget about the third and fourth year extended warranty, I have even paid Rs 2K extra as insurance for nil depreciation (Tata AIG), to ensure that I have 100% peace of mind when my family and I are inside our i10.
All said and done, no other diesel small car would have such exorbitant costs for fuel pump and fuel injectors. Its daylight robbery in my opinion.
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Fate (good or bad) strikes everyone when they least expect and God forbid someone who happens to be hit by a Rs 1.6 lakh bill (in a car under 30 months old) simply because he/she found Rs 5-7k a waste of money.
AFAIK, You cannot get an extended warranty for i20 CRDi even if you want to, and even if you are ready to pay for it. It used to be same for Verna (prev generation) CRDi too. Am not sure of the latest Verna.
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Re: My Hyundai i20 CRDi Asta is here!! *UPDATE* 29,000 kms! Fuel Pump & Injector fail

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1) Fuel Pump failure
Have you installed a Tuning Box anytime in the past or been running one?

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2) Injector Failure
All 4 injectors failing at the same time is very unlikely...Are you sure HASS is not taking you for a ride?
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AFAIK, You cannot get an extended warranty for i20 CRDi even if you want to, and even if you are ready to pay for it. It used to be same for Verna (prev generation) CRDi too. Am not sure of the latest Verna.
But I thought AbhiJ's post clearly mentioned that he had taken extended warranty. Or have I missed something somewhere?
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Have you installed a Tuning Box anytime in the past or been running one?
Dont own any tuning box. Never have. The car is totally standard. No mod whatsoever.

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All 4 injectors failing at the same time is very unlikely...Are you sure HASS is not taking you for a ride?
I doubt they will. There is little to gain. I have been told this will be covered under warranty, so bloating the bill doesnt serve much purpose.

Maybe, there is a problem with 1/2 injectors, and they dont have the setup to check / clean them. So they are sending all 4. It is better safe, than sorry attitude. This is my guess.

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But I thought AbhiJ's post clearly mentioned that he had taken extended warranty. Or have I missed something somewhere?
i20 CRDi comes with 2 yr warranty. Extended was NOT available when I bought the car. However, couple of months later it was launched and I paid about 7.5k to extend my warranty for one year. After 3 years, there is no option of warranty coverage.
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Re: My Hyundai i20 CRDi Asta is here!! *UPDATE* 29,000 kms! Fuel Pump & Injector fail

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I doubt they will. There is little to gain. I have been told this will be covered under warranty, so bloating the bill doesnt serve much purpose.
Afaik, extended warranty is actually a form of insurance cover provided by a bank. So neither the dealership nor the company is technically paying for this.
The insurance provider does that.

Please correct me if I am wrong.
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Have sent Hyundai feedback via the online form, does anyone have any email ids I can sent the complaint to?
You can send email to cr@hmil.net
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Re: My Hyundai i20 CRDi Asta is here!! *UPDATE* 29,000 kms! Fuel Pump & Injector fail

AbhiJ, Hard Luck! But glad that you had taken the extended warranty.

Push for a donor car. I have a feeling HASS is going to take their own sweet time.

And, will Hyundai give additional warranty on the replaced parts?

Also, try and understand from HASS why this happened. Do you have (or know of) any other common rail Diesel vehicle which fill up from the same pump?
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AbhiJ, Hard Luck! But glad that you had taken the extended warranty.

Push for a donor car. I have a feeling HASS is going to take their own sweet time.

And, will Hyundai give additional warranty on the replaced parts?

Also, try and understand from HASS why this happened. Do you have (or know of) any other common rail Diesel vehicle which fill up from the same pump?
2 Indica Vista Diesels from my own family fill up at the same pump, and both are a little older than my car.
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