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Old 20th July 2017, 16:04   #136
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Would still prefer changing all 4/5 tyres as a set.
Are you really sure of using A/T tyres on Aria OR is your off-road usage more than paved roads?
Update!

So to kill the dilemma, I went ahead and changed all 4 tyres as even the front tyres which seemed ok had cuts on the inner sidewalls.

Was clear on AT, spoke to a friend who is with Ceat and was earlier with Good Year, he suggested the Czar over the Wranglers, decided to go ahead with those, spoke to the dealer on the availability and went there only to find that the 235/65/17 are HT and not AT.
The AT has nearly identical tread pattern, with the outermost treads having a little additional spacing between them but was available only for Fortuner which is 265/65/17.
The dealer assured me of similar performance which I was not buying. Finally an email from the Ceat sales manager on full refund and replacement in case the tyres did not perform as per my expectations in the varied conditions, convinced me to pick those up.

And boy was I surprised or happy. The tyres are excellent, good highway manners, high speed stability, good braking plus a variety of road conditions and non-road conditions.

I used the tyres over 3500kms in a weeks time, out of which roughly 500kms or more were under off-road situations - gravel, mud, slush, small rocks, inclines, rocky stream crossings.

After returning there was no doubt whatsoever, these are going to stay. Got them at Rs. 8500 apiece.

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Need Urgent help.

I drive a Ford Figo, Petrol and have suddenly noticed that as soon as speedometer goes 80+, the whole car starts shaking, not vibrating but shaking. I can drive till 120 but car keeps shaking. Surprisingly as soon as it is bought on 80, shaking stops. I have been advised by my Car dealer to change both front tires as they are out. I am not too sure of his advice. Need Forums advice considering following information.
It has been almost 5 years since I bought the car. Car is in super excellent condition and i have only clocked 22K kms on it. I take good care of the car. But this shaking suddenly is bothering me.
Should I change two tires or all 4 or 5? Which ones should I go for, Goodyear (stock), Bridgestone or Michelin? Where should I buy these from? I am based in Mumbai.

Please advise.
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I drive a Ford Figo, Petrol and have suddenly noticed that as soon as speedometer goes 80+, the whole car starts shaking, not vibrating but shaking.
To understand reasons better, please go through first page on this thread. ("My Car / Steering / Brake Vibrates While Driving" | What To Do)

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I have been advised by my Car dealer to change both front tires as they are out.
Uneven tyre wear can be one of the reason for this suggestion, however issues would be prominent at low speeds (below 40) and not at high speeds that you have mentioned.

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It has been almost 5 years since I bought the car. Car is in super excellent condition and i have only clocked 22K kms on it.
Car & engine might be in good condition, what about tyres? 22k Kms in 5 years means low usage, reason could be small travel distance or longer parking duration. If tyres haven't been rotated & balanced intermittently, good chances of tyres wearing out in uneven fashion and car handles poorly. Please share photos of tyres if you can.

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Should I change two tires or all 4 or 5?
All 5 even if spare is unused.
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Which ones should I go for, Goodyear (stock), Bridgestone or Michelin?
Looking at low usage, choose among Goodyear assurance, Apollo alnac or Bridgestone B250.
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Where should I buy these from? I am based in Mumbai.
Directory has some listings on forum, choose based on your location within Mumbai.

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Need Urgent help.

It has been almost 5 years since I bought the car. Car is in super excellent condition and i have only clocked 22K kms on it. I take good care of the car. But this shaking suddenly is bothering me.
Please advise.

Even if the tyres have done only 22k km, 5 years is a long time and the rubber might have hardened. The tyres may not be producing optimal grip. It is better to change the tyres after 4 years. On the same note, it is better to change all 4 tyres. But the vibration could also be due to alignment/wheel balancing/steering issues.
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I drive a Ford Figo, Petrol and have suddenly noticed that as soon as speedometer goes 80+, the whole car starts shaking, not vibrating but shaking.
For your specific problem, get the alignment and balancing checked/done. This should fix the problem. If it does not, then move on to diagnosing the problem as mentioned in the thread linked by @sukiwa.

Uneven tyre wear can be caused by improper alignment/balancing or over-inflated/under-inflated tyres or tyre not fixed properly. Changing the tyres without fixing the issue can cause the uneven wear to reappear.
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Hi,

I have been using the Bridgestone B250 on my i10 since Feb 2010 (tyre mfg. Dec 09). Have clocked 35K Kms till date and the road grip and stability are still intact. One of the tyres has worn out a bit. The only issue I feel is a bit of noise when gliding on highways. My drive usually comprises - city + occasional long weekend outdoor.
Would like some expert opinion if I should go ahead and change the tyres or stick with this for another 5K-7K kms. I am planning a Pune Goa trip, is it recommended to continue with old ones? In past 2 months Pune-Mumbai and Pune - Mahabaleshwar without any issues.
Thanks in advance.
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Have clocked 35K Kms till date and the road grip and stability are still intact.
Straight line stability might be still okay, wonder how cornering grip would be.

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One of the tyres has worn out a bit. The only issue I feel is a bit of noise when gliding on highways.
Noise would be due age of tyres, rubber would have hardened in last 9 years. Doesn't tyres have surface cracks by now?
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Would like some expert opinion if I should go ahead and change the tyres or stick with this for another 5K-7K kms.
After using tyre set for 9 years, please replace tyres much before your long highway trip.
If you look at poll results from this thread, higher % of members change tyres every 5 years irrespective of tread depth.
Related thread (Do you change tyres by age or by tread-wear/damage ?)

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I am planning a Pune Goa trip, is it recommended to continue with old ones?
Irrespective of route (Chorla/Anmod/Amboli) that you would take, twisty roads are better traveled with new tyres than old tyres way past their age/time.
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Straight line stability might be still okay, wonder how cornering grip would be.
That also seems to be fine.

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Noise would be due age of tyres, rubber would have hardened in last 9 years. Doesn't tyres have surface cracks by now?
Yes there are cracks but very few on the sidewall.

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Irrespective of route (Chorla/Anmod/Amboli) that you would take, twisty roads are better traveled with new tyres than old tyres way past their age/time.
Agreed. I am inclined to change it with Michelin XM2. Thanks.
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Time to change tyres.

Car in question - Altis 2011.

Present tyre size - 195-60-15.

Alternate size - 195-65-15.

Usage - 99.5% highways, car is always loaded, driven in the range of 80-100 kph all the time, fed with nitrogen. If the age of a tyre is assumed to be 5 years, then I may add bad roads to the equation as well, as all highways going out of my city in all directions for at least a 100 kilometers, are in a bad shape and they are poised to remain bad for next 5-6 years.

I am happy with the performance of the current (2nd set) MRF ZVTS 195-60-15, they can go for another thousand kilometers looking at their tread, but they are past their prime, age wise.

Query - Whether moving to the alternate size mentioned above can give me any advantage in increasing ground clearance? Not that I am scraping the car, but still I would prefer to have the height raised. In addition to that, tyre noise must be on the lower side on highways.

Which tyres should I opt for?
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Time to change tyres. Car in question - Altis 2011. Present tyre size - 195-60-15. Alternate size - 195-65-15. Which tyres should I opt for?
Not sure how you got 195-60-15, which was the default for the 9G (2003-2008) Corolla.

The Altis' default size is 195-65-R15. I'd suggest you go in for the 65 profile tyre. It will make the car more comfortable, less susceptible to damage by potholes on the highway but at the expense of slightly compromised handling and cornering.

PS - For low noise tyres avoid MRF. Opt for Michelin P4ST or Michelin XM2, Yokohama Blu Earth or Bridgestone Turanza. You can consider Apollo Accelere.

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That also seems to be fine.


Yes there are cracks but very few on the sidewall.

Agreed. I am inclined to change it with Michelin XM2. Thanks.
Hi friends,
I changed my Bridgestone B250 stock tyres to Continental CC5 since Michelin XM2 wasn't in stock with dealer of my choice and the reviews said CC5s to be equally good. Have done about 1200 kms on the new rubbers and so far the experience has been great. Most of it has been highway and the road grip is pretty good and planted. Braking has improved considerably. Noise is minimal and I can hear the engine hum after a long time since the Bridgestones which had gotten hard. Totally recommended.
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PS - For low noise tyres avoid MRF. Opt for Michelin P4ST or Michelin XM2, Yokohama Blu Earth or Bridgestone Turanza. You can consider Apollo Accelere.
Keep an open mind . MRF is improving. Their Perfinza is quite nice. I think it's available in that size.

Personally, I would also opt for the P4ST, but the Perfinza is an excellent tyre. I used it for 26,000 kms on my vRS and was quite happy with the silence, comfort and grip it provided.

We shouldnt be tarnishing a company when it seems to be working hard to introduce products that meet TBHP-ians' high standards!
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Keep an open mind. MRF is improving. Their Perfinza is quite nice.
Yes, that's good to hear and I have been following your vRS thread regularly.

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Personally, I would also opt for the P4ST, but the Perfinza is an excellent tyre.
What in your experience is making you opt for the P4ST instead of another set of Perfinzas? I am sure potential customers of both brands and tyre models would be interested in your thoughts given the deep insights you possess in tyres and the tyre industry in general.

My car is also due for a new set of shoes in late 2019 early '20 (not because of mileage but age) and I will be opting for Michelin Primacy yet again.

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We shouldnt be tarnishing a company when it seems to be working hard to introduce products that meet TBHP-ians' high standards!
I have used MRF products (among several other makes of tyres) on 2 and 4 wheelers since the '80s. While my experience with MRF has been more or less satisfactory when it comes to rolling noise and comfort there are better options out there. Obviously, this is in the pre-Perfinza days. Also, IMHO suggestions or recommendations on my choice of tyres can't be considered as 'tarnishing' a company's image.
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OK guys, I need some advice here on Tyres. My 2014 Honda City recently completed 50,000 Kms and 5 years >

The stock tyres in the yard at the time of sale were MRF ZVTVs and hence I immediately changed the tyres on the day of delivery itself to 195/60R15 Michelin Energy XM2s.

Two of the tyres had to be changed as there were sidewall cuts on separate occasions leading to replacement and hence below is the configuration of tyres on the car currently:

When is the right time to change tyres?-tyre_statistics_mar2019.png
Tyre Statistics

The Tyre Tread Depth was measured using the Michelin MN-4203 Digital Tyre Gauge (URL) on the tyre on the different treads.

I recently got the tyres Wheel Balanced at Tyre Professionals, Bangalore and the experts there said the Tyres have not become hard and are in good condition. After I told them that couple of tyres have completed 50 K, they recommended that I check again after another 5,000 KMS and possibly change.

If I change it will be surely be Michelin Primacy 4ST - so that is kind of finalized.
  • What do the experts here recommend - how much longer can I use these tyres?
  • Should I change 3 tyres now and change the remaining 2 after another year as 2 of them are 4 years old only.
  • Also, should I move the unused Spare tyre from the Steel Wheel to the Alloy and use it for a while?

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Two brand new tyres in the rear

Two 2015 ones in the front

Spare As Is OR sell the spare for good money and buy a new tyre for the spare wheel
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