Indian built/assembled classics

Stanher · 31st May 2008, 17:15

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Originally Posted by karlosdeville

I doubt it, it looks genuine to me. Besides, the design itself is unique and never offered on later cars, so there is no question of it being a later Padmini wheelcap.

Uh, I did not say its a PADMINI wheelcap! I know its a delight one only, but I said it could be chrome one (I found they were chrome intitially, later ones like yours did come in aluminium.)

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I really doubt this.

Well you'd once sent me a pic. of a very original select in clacutta but fitted with a few accessories including a super-select grille.......'course that was unlike any normal s.s. grille in the sence it had just a one-piece outer 'lip' around it, unlike the 2-piece 'lips' on normal ss. grilles.

karlosdeville · 31st May 2008, 17:29

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Originally Posted by Stanher

Uh, I did not say its a PADMINI wheelcap! I know its a delight one only, but I said it could be chrome one (I found they were chrome intitially, later ones like yours did come in aluminium.)

The design of the wheelcap shows it is not the clip fitting (which was available in stainless steel) but the Padmini type fitting, which was only available in aluminium. A few aftermarket duplicate ones were available in poor chrome finish. Theres no point painting an aluminium wheel cap, it would never rust.

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Originally Posted by Stanher

Well you'd once sent me a pic. of a very original select in clacutta but fitted with a few accessories including a super-select grille.......'course that was unlike any normal s.s. grille in the sence it had just a one-piece outer 'lip' around it, unlike the 2-piece 'lips' on normal ss. grilles.

That car is fitted with many period accessories from other models, so we cannot make any assumptions derived from it. As far as I know that grille is a one off creation.

Stanher · 31st May 2008, 23:57

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Originally Posted by karlosdeville

The design of the wheelcap shows it is not the clip fitting (which was available in stainless steel) but the Padmini type fitting, which was only available in aluminium. A few aftermarket duplicate ones were available in poor chrome finish. Theres no point painting an aluminium wheel cap, it would never rust.

Geez, more confusion! :P
Again, I know its NOT a clip fitting older type hubcap, nor did I say it is. Yes I was actually referring to the ones in chrome finish (didnt know they wre aftermarket ones though- thanks for telling me that, I'd earlier preferred these to the aluminium ones, now I'll stay away from them!)

That reminds me- Suren did get a set of the aluminium delight caps from Madras- strangely they were all painted over!
Suren, when could I have these, now that you got a correct older type set for your car?

C.S.ANANTH · 1st June 2008, 22:07

Dear Stanher,
This car is not really original. Grille & hub caps are from super Select.
Ananth

Stanher · 2nd June 2008, 00:22

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Originally Posted by C.S.ANANTH

Dear Stanher,
This car is not really original. Grille & hub caps are from super Select.
Ananth

Uh, if you are referring to the Select, the hubcaps are padmini ones (which would obviously mean the rims are too.)

Stanher · 7th June 2008, 20:38

Here's a sneek pic. I managed to take today of a landmaster in daily use owned by a udipi hotel group. The car's got a Bangalore regn. They use it for carrying their foodstuffs/vessels between different branches of theirs in the city. Its in a pretty sad state.

Interiors are mostly buggered up, as is the case with many of these cars.

iraghava · 7th June 2008, 21:35

Does it have the original dashboard?

Stanher · 7th June 2008, 22:03

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Originally Posted by iraghava

Does it have the original dashboard?

I recall (having seen the interior once before) it not having one, instead having the 'latest' Amby one.

SuperSelect · 8th June 2008, 22:02

Y'know, it may be worthwhile giving these guys a relatively recent (maybe 20 years old) Amby in exchange for this beauty - It's a win-win situation. They get a newer car, and the other guy gets a classic !!

Prabal · 8th June 2008, 22:25

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Originally Posted by SuperSelect

Y'know, it may be worthwhile giving these guys a relatively recent (maybe 20 years old) Amby in exchange for this beauty - It's a win-win situation. They get a newer car, and the other guy gets a classic !!

Makes sense (to make such an offer that is, maybe not necessarily as a proposition itself to the receiver) but doesn't always work. I once got a mouthful from the owner of a dilapidated classic that I made such an offer to. I beat a hasty retreat, and their car has never moved out of that garage in these ten years. They use public transport for moving about. Yet I don't really blame him for his response. There're no fixed parameters for defining sense and sensibilities in the world of collectible automobiles, is the only conclusion I've come to.

SuperSelect · 8th June 2008, 23:17

Agree with you man. I hounded a guy who had not one, not two, but three classics - a select, a delight, and a 1500 for two whole years, and one fine day he sold them all to a third party - without even calling me ! This is indeed a bizarre world !!

Stanher · 8th June 2008, 23:58

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Originally Posted by SuperSelect

Y'know, it may be worthwhile giving these guys a relatively recent (maybe 20 years old) Amby in exchange for this beauty - It's a win-win situation. They get a newer car, and the other guy gets a classic !!

Thats how I got my Herald!

The ex-owner previously had a Standard super 10 which he sold & later badly missed. Not being able to find him another such car we had him settle for a reasonably good fiat (although he did agree to give the herald for it, we also had to top up the deal with some nominal cash from our side, plus he was irritatingly fussy about minor problems in the fiat, grumbling all along later that we didnt get him a good enough car blah blah blah....!

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karlosdeville · 9th June 2008, 08:12

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Originally Posted by SuperSelect

Agree with you man. I hounded a guy who had not one, not two, but three classics - a select, a delight, and a 1500 for two whole years, and one fine day he sold them all to a third party - without even calling me ! This is indeed a bizarre world !!

The 1500 was a cream colour, the select was light blue and white, both MRG regd am I right? The cream delight was MRH I think. All 3 stood side by side in the open. Where did they go?

SuperSelect · 9th June 2008, 11:15

Spot on, Karl- these three were lying unattended, but were complete cars. The guy promised he would sell them to me, kept me dangling for close to two years with one excuse or the other, and then sold them.
The saving grace is they are (hopefully, according to him) with a collector from Andheri / Goregaon, are being restored, and should hopefully surface soon. He's not willing to give me any contact details of where they are, I'm still hounding him !!

Sidman · 9th July 2008, 21:15

This thread is really informative. Karl, can we do something similar to map the history of Lambretta scooters in India?

1st June 2008, 22:07	#214
C.S.ANANTH BHPian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Chennai Posts: 379 Thanked: 73 Times	Dear Stanher, This car is not really original. Grille & hub caps are from super Select. Ananth
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7th June 2008, 20:38	#216
Stanher Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hyderabad, AP Posts: 6,491 Thanked: 2,087 Times View My Garage	Here's a sneek pic. I managed to take today of a landmaster in daily use owned by a udipi hotel group. The car's got a Bangalore regn. They use it for carrying their foodstuffs/vessels between different branches of theirs in the city. Its in a pretty sad state. Interiors are mostly buggered up, as is the case with many of these cars. Attached Thumbnails
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iraghava Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bhaiyyaland Posts: 8,033 Thanked: 265 Times View My Garage	Does it have the original dashboard?
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8th June 2008, 22:02	#219
SuperSelect Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: Mumbai. Posts: 1,806 Thanked: 247 Times View My Garage	Y'know, it may be worthwhile giving these guys a relatively recent (maybe 20 years old) Amby in exchange for this beauty - It's a win-win situation. They get a newer car, and the other guy gets a classic !!
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8th June 2008, 23:17	#221
SuperSelect Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: Mumbai. Posts: 1,806 Thanked: 247 Times View My Garage	Agree with you man. I hounded a guy who had not one, not two, but three classics - a select, a delight, and a 1500 for two whole years, and one fine day he sold them all to a third party - without even calling me ! This is indeed a bizarre world !!
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9th June 2008, 11:15	#224
SuperSelect Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: Mumbai. Posts: 1,806 Thanked: 247 Times View My Garage	Spot on, Karl- these three were lying unattended, but were complete cars. The guy promised he would sell them to me, kept me dangling for close to two years with one excuse or the other, and then sold them. The saving grace is they are (hopefully, according to him) with a collector from Andheri / Goregaon, are being restored, and should hopefully surface soon. He's not willing to give me any contact details of where they are, I'm still hounding him !!
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9th July 2008, 21:15	#225
Sidman BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 416 Thanked: 28 Times View My Garage	Great thread! This thread is really informative. Karl, can we do something similar to map the history of Lambretta scooters in India?
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