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Road trip in my 2023 Hyundai Verna DCT: Few things I'd like to share

It's very stable on the highways and the ADAS is useful too. For a car with so much weight, it returns decent fuel efficiency.

BHPian bblost recently shared this with other enthusiasts.

My car is at a little over 6000 kms and just concluded a Hyderabad -> Chennai -> Hyderabad trip.

  • My dad loved the ingress and egress of the car.
  • It's very stable on the highway.
  • The ventilated seats are amazing in the hot weather, especially in the humid Chennai climate.
  • ADAS is very useful. It did not engage the braking but I did get multiple warnings, which were helpful.
  • I need to figure out a comfortable way to sit with my now idle left leg.
  • For a car with so much weight, it returns decent mileage.
  • It nags you till you take a break. The warnings start after 3:00 hours of continuous driving.
  • The 120 kmph warning beep is useful. Very easy to overspeed as the car is super smooth and accelerates very fast.
  • My parking in Chennai was on the street. Never buy a dark colored car if you have to park like that. Gets dirty within minutes.

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Painted my 2023 Verna's alloy wheels gloss black and I love the results

It's now not possible to tell that mine isn't the Hyundai Verna turbo as I have also removed all the emblems that were on the car.

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Been a little over 2 months since my black panther came home and I have loved every bit of it! Absolutely no complaints with the car, CVT transmission, handling, ride and the controversial design, I have loved it all, except, the alloys! Diamond cut isn't my thing.

I like the design, it looks good, but the silver and diamond cut just ughh, I love the all-black alloys that come in the turbo model so the itch began to have it on mine.

I searched through various forums and on YouTube on alloy painting but didn't find much when it comes to painting 'diamond cut' alloys, the design and way it is made with the stainless steel finish makes it difficult to have paint stay over it, it'll very easily peel off. Also, not everyone wants to paint diamond-cut alloys because Indians love chrome finish so didn't find much on the Internet (except those spray can paints which probably would start looking horrible within a month or so).

The next option but an expensive one would be to swap the alloys with the Hyundai genuine ones but that was way out of budget, aftermarket alloys were not even considered.

At a point, I decided to give up on the thought and just live with the diamond-cut alloys. One morning out of the blue, I decided to visit my trusted FNG once to see what he had to say about it, only took 5 minutes of him describing all the work that needed to be done & cost involved, and I was convinced painting it all black and gave it a go-ahead and I am so glad I did.

Washing and degreasing of alloys and tyres.

Sanding down the alloy multiple times to make the finish rough. (this process took 2-3 hours!)

Masking the tyres.

Applying primer and hardener. (This ensures paint sticks to the surface and won't peel/chip)

Base coat primer.

Final coat of glossy black paint.

The outcome is just marvellous, looks even better when compared to the Hyundai genuine ones, super happy with the results and love how the black car is complimented by all-black wheels.

Also got the front calliper painted polo red.

It is now not possible to tell this isn't the turbo cause I have all the emblems removed and unless one sees the interior, it will surely be mistaken for a turbo.

Will also upload how it looks on the car once it's all washed and shiny.

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New Creta IVT / diesel AT or new Verna DCT: Which car makes more sense

My daily run is 50 km and I would do a couple of long trips in a year. Also, I will keep the vehicle for a longer duration; say over 10 years.

BHPian satish.gawai recently shared this with other enthusiasts.

A lot of confusion between Creta and Verna

I shortlisted Verna over Slavia, Virtus, and City. Took my wife to Garve Hyundai, Wakad last Saturday to show her my choice. We saw the car in & out and took a good 8-10 Km test drive both on the highway and city.

The test drive vehicle was a 1.5L turbo DCT. Below are a few of my observations.

  • Verna feels solid, door thud gives confidence
  • The cabin feels modern and nice. The red tubing on the 1.5 turbo is appealing.
  • Fit and finish are good Hyundai standards
  • All required features in this price band are given except for wireless charging and a 360-degree camera. One of my contacts in Hyundai has confirmed that a 360-degree camera will be introduced in Verna during the facelift in 2026.
  • On the rear seat, the space is superb. Very nice under-thigh support.
  • The car feels sturdy and planted on the road. I took it till 120KMPH and it doesn't feel like that speed inside.
  • ADAS features are awesome and work flawlessly.

I asked SA to get the car again for the longer test drive. if required, I am ready to fill the petrol and he agreed without the hassle of me filling the fuel.

We left the showroom thinking of booking it in a couple of days.

Next day

On Sunday, I took my father & brother to show them what I am booking. After checking the Verna, they feel a little uncomfortable because of the low seating.

Then they sit inside the new Creta and feel more comfortable and airy compared to Verna. Plus the panoramic sunroof and high seating make them feel even more pleasure.

Dad immediately asked me to consider this one. Now the problem is Creta is ~3 Lacs above Verna.

Prices quoted

  • Verna 1.5 turbo DCT (SXO) - 2108000 OTR
  • Creta 1.5 MPi IVT(SXO) - 2276000 OTR
  • Creta 1.5 turbo DCT (SXO) - 2424000 OTR
  • Creta 1.5 CRDi AT(SXO) - 2474000 OTR

As per SA, there will be a further discount on Verna but not a single rupee discount on Creta.

I have a budget of 20 Lac + 2-3 Lac and I am still on the edge of Verna. I finally convinced the family for Verna and for the sake of a better deal was looking at some other showrooms.

Meanwhile, I came across this thread on Team-BHP for Hyundai DCT vs CVT. As per this thread and many other YouTube videos, I realized that DCT is not for the Indian conditions and many BHPians have suggested the IVT (CVT).

Now the dilemma before me is, if I go for Verna IVT, I will miss many of the good features which are there in DCT (why Hyundai why) which I do not want to compromise on. On the other hand, if I opt for Creta IVT (1.5 MPi IVT SX(O)), it will cost me 22.76 Lacs. Moreover, Creta IVT comes with all the top-end features same as DCT.

Need suggestions on a few points from the owners and the DCT experts.

I like sedans but I am OK with SUVs also. Verna looks very sexy to me from certain angles. The front is okay-ish though.

What is your opinion on the DCT? Although it is very clear from the DCT vs CVT thread, do you guys find an improvement in Verna's DCT, especially in bumper-to-bumper traffic? Owners, please comment.

If I go for the IVT (Verna or Creta), it is mated with the NA engines. How much I am going to miss on the fun-to-drive part and performance with a full load?

What is your take on Creta IVT overall? It comes with all the features but has not been tested by GNCAP yet. When I checked with SA, he said the body shell is updated and very soon it will be tested for BNCAP. He also showed the bonnet weights of old and new Creta for confidence.

Does it make sense to go for New Creta (IVT or diesel AT) over New Verna (DCT)? Almost 4.5 Lac extra for diesel AT. I know it is not an apple-to-apple comparison but want to know your views.

My daily run is 50 km and a couple of long trips a year. Also, I will keep the car for a longer duration; say above 10 years.

Here's what BHPian Ruchir031 had to say about the matter:

As far as I am aware the top model Verna SX(O) IVT misses out on rear discs, electronic parking and auto-hold rest everything is the same among both IVT and DCT so if this is something you can't compromise on the IVT is ruled out instantly.

To talk about DCT vs IVT, while I was purchasing my Verna my first preference was DCT cause of the fun and extra horses it offers but that didn't last long, I have friends who have DCTs of both the new Verna and pre-facelift Creta that has caused them nothing but issues, I could have considered them unlucky cause it can happen when you sell something in thousands but the forum itself has many such instances so it wasn't worth the risk. I am someone who keeps my car for a long time and has no time to visit the service centres ever so frequently so I knocked off the DCT. I'd rather have peace of mind than some fun with extra horses.

IVT was the only option I had been left with (had there been a diesel I would have opted for it eyes closed) and I went ahead with it and honestly the IVT is not a slouch. it's a well-refined engine, and has plenty of power on tap. Yes, it lacks the punch but it is sufficient for those overtakes and taking it in sports mode with paddle shifters won't leave you disappointed.

I have taken the car to hills and highways with 140+ speeds with a full load and it never felt out of breath at any point.

Creta vs Verna is entirely up to you, I am not a fan of compact SUVs so my heart will always choose Sedans.

Considering your daily run maybe you should consider the Creta diesel, it's a superb engine and since you already plan to keep the car for over 10 years it will be better to invest a few extra lakhs for peace of mind.

If it's the IVT you want to stick to, I'd go with Verna any day. It's a much better value-for-money product, has a plush interior, and is futuristic looking and the comfort of a sedan will any day be better than that of a compact SUV.

Here's what BHPian MyLife_MyCar had to say about the matter:

A correction here - Verna offers wireless charging right from the SX variant. What SX(O) doesn't offer is a wireless AA/Carplay, if that's what you wanted to point out.

Maybe two years ago that was the case. Though I am not an expert here, I feel Hyundai transmissions have come a long way, especially with the new engine. It's almost a year since 2023 Verna launched and I haven't heard a single issue related to Verna's DCT.

Of course, IVT is an equally competent engine, but it misses out on some features and the "fun" part.

Yes, one needs to be careful here and avoid driving on half-brakes (i.e., brake pedal partially depressed). Develop a habit of waiting for a gap to be created in front of you so that the car can crawl with brakes fully released (even if it lasts 1-2 seconds). Do not mind if some bikers or autos fill up that gap. Your machine is worth more than saving a few seconds in such traffic.

Always use auto-hold. I tend to believe that auto-hold disengages the clutch even if the car is in D mode. Otherwise, there is always an option to shift to N. Your left hand anyway won't be doing much in an automatic car.

Aged folks will mostly prefer a higher seating position. You have to decide here - how frequently will you travel with your parents? If it's going to be quite often, then Verna may not be a good choice. Also, check with your wife if she is really comfortable with lower seating for long drives (this is coming from a personal experience).

If you already have a car with a higher seating position, then Verna would be a no-brainer.

At the end decision is yours - a classic head vs heart situation.

Here's what BHPian fhdowntheline had to say about the matter:

Well, I am an ex-owner of Creta diesel 1.5 AT and presently driving the Verna 1.5 DCT. Here is my perspective.

  • My mother actually started having issues stepping into the Creta with the high ground clearance, so think about that from the future standpoint.
  • The 1.5 DCT beats the diesel 1.5 AT in terms of performance, no two ways about it. 160 vs 115 PS is a real thing, as is the quickshifting DCT vs 6 AT. In Sport mode, the Verna goes near ballistic, especially past 50 kph.
  • As you said the car does feel quite stable at the speed limits presently allowed on our roads. Cornering is also quite predictable. Braking is also on point with all disc brakes.
  • The car feels spacious enough for 4 adults and a pre-teen child. This is the same as Creta, although the availability of vertical space in the SUV lends a more airy feeling.
  • Boot space is substantially better in the Verna. Creta's boot space is inefficient because a lot of space is available in the underfloor- spare tyre section.
  • Both cars to me, feel equally well built but Verna has managed to score a 5-star rating which is an advantage. It actually has marginally better side protection than the Virtus.

Overall, if you keep certain precautions like the shift to N and/ or auto hold to disengage the clutch, you should be fine. The car is primarily meant for long-distance usage, that's where it would really earn its worth. I have owned CVT-based cars before like the City, and I can say for sure that it is not a patch on the DCT, performance-wise. It is a happy compromise for greater perceived reliability, but a compromise at the end of the day for just a couple of odd lacs.

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3 weeks with my Hyundai Verna: PPF, door damping & customised seats

I also got ceramic coating done on all glasses including the sunroof, Nappa leather stitched on the boot floor mat and bought 7D mats.

BHPian Ruchir031 recently shared this with other enthusiasts.

It's been a while and out of the 3 weeks I've had the car, it has spent most of its time at various places but home but today finally I am done with 'setting it up' and the car has come home to me and I can finally enjoy driving it!

Sharing below a few things that I've gotten done over the weeks.

Garware PPF

Getting the surface ready on a car just out of the showroom. Kinda hurt, tbh. Since it was all shiny and scratch-free but a few swirls were there.

Installing the PPF, unfortunately, I did not take any other pics or videos but I did oversee the whole process which was painful seeing all the emblems and tail lights and garnish being removed. God damn.

Final outlook!

Damping on doors

This was only done to better the NVH levels and boy has it made a difference!

Might dampen the bonnet and floor too in the future.

Chose to go with 2-layer damping for the doors.

Torq 2mm on the inside, wanted to go with Morel yellow series but the installer being a good friend suggested this instead claiming much better heat and melting resistance so I trusted him.

Morel 3 layer Acudamp 4.5mm

Seats

Initially, I was not going to get the seats done as I like fabric better than PU leather but since the car was so light the fabric started to stain just within 2-3 days of bringing the car home and I hate seeing dirty seats so had to get this done.

Customized fit 'heavy nappa leather'? There were other options like 'just nappa' roma leather, durban leather, royal touch and whatnot but I loved the feel and texture of this leather better than the others.

Old fabric cloth was removed and parts of it like velcro were retained and stitched on the new seats giving it a superior fit which is called customized fit which is better than bucket fit where only the fabric is cut and not removed.

The original design was retained. The biggest plus point was this seat was stitched right in front of me from scratch.

Other things I got done were:

  • Ceramic coating on all mirrors including the sunroof.
  • Nappa leather stitched on the boot floor mat.
  • 7d mats

Planned for the future is LED light upgrade (stock is just horrible), fog lamp installation, speaker upgrade and footwell lights.

Now, it is time to enjoy driving this machine worry-free!

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Do ADAS equipped cars need a button to disable the feature?

With so many new drivers on the road, ADAS features like blind spot warning, collision braking assist, high beam assist, and rear cross-traffic avoidance assist help to keep them and others on the road safe. But more seasoned drivers prefer having the driver assistance features switched off.

We recently had a thread on whether you find the ADAS features in a car useful or not. ~60% of the people who voted felt that the ADAS features were useless and wouldn’t use them. As someone who loves to drive, I would agree with the sentiment, but it’s hard to ignore the safety that some of the features provide.

With so many new drivers on the road, ADAS features like blind spot warning, collision braking assist, high beam assist, and rear cross-traffic avoidance assist help to keep them and others on the road safe. But more seasoned drivers prefer having the driver assistance features switched off. As for me, I don’t mind using adaptive cruise control when out on the long expressways where the lanes are properly marked and you have to stick to the speed limit. However, in the city, I prefer having everything switched off completely as the systems can prove to be too intrusive on Indian roads. Specifically, the forward collision braking assist in some cars like the Hyundai Creta and MG Hector has been tuned aggressively which means that the car applies brakes on its own even when there's good enough distance. In some cars though like in Tata Safari, you get three levels of adjustment for the sensitivity of the emergency braking.

In most cars, the ADAS features can be switched off individually through the touchscreen infotainment head-unit. In some cars, you can switch them off through the MID using steering-mounted controls. Then you have a car like the Jeep Grand Cherokee in which you need to switch off the lane keep assist by pressing a button on top of the touchscreen every time you start the car.

So, the question here is pretty simple. Would you prefer having an ADAS On/Off switch that would activate or deactivate ALL the functions of ADAS? Or do you prefer having to select features individually?

Here's what GTO had to say on the matter:

Voted yes, I want a MASTER On/Off button for ADAS, just like we have for engine idling start / stop systems.

Main reason = ADAS auto-braking is dangerous in India. I have had a couple of close shaves myself when the car hard-brakes unexpectedly, and a few BHPians have reported accidents where they got rear-ended. These braking systems are tuned for Europe & USA, not India where the gaps to other vehicles & pedestrians are much slimmer.

It's a 2-minute ritual now = every time I get a media test-drive car, I spend 2 minutes going through the menu and switching all the systems off. Did it for the Seltos, C40 Recharge, Safari Facelift etc. Not only does this take too long, but on a rare occasion or two, I've forgotten to disable these systems.

A master on-off switch like we have for idling start / stop will be just perfect and keep both camps happy (ADAS supporters as well as naysayers).

Here's what BHPian Axe77 had to say on the matter:

In a perfect world, I want a top of line variant without Level 2 ADAS at all. I’ll do my own braking thank you very much.

Coming to the question. If the vehicle I buy must be with ADAS, I would definitely want ADAS to be custom switch off’able. Ideally, I would like this to be a memory setting that stays in the selected mode even if you stop and re-start the car. Or one where you can yourself choose what default mode you want - on or off. In terms of the setting level, it may as well offer both options. Turn “all” off vs turn off selectively as you please. For instance in my Mercedes, I like blind spot warning (but not lane departure override or automatic braking). Similarly I don’t mind auto braking in parking mode if there is a rear obstacle. But most importantly, it should respect the settings selected when you restart the car. If it’s a safety issue, it can always deal with it with a warning when starting up as to what the chosen setting are - instead of forcing the user to reselect them every single time.

One of the most annoying aspects of my Mercedes is that I have to get into 3 levels of menus to switch off automatic braking EVERY time I start the car and take off again. One of the singularly most annoying aspects of driving a modern ADAS equipped car.

Here's what BHPian Samurai had to say on the matter:

Before owning a level 2 ADAS equipped car, I would have voted YES. But after driving the top end Tucson for 3 months, I have changed my mind.

I have never turned off the emergency braking after taking delivery. I decided so because I knew I won't remember to switch it off every time. So, I better get used having it on, and so far, not regretted it.

I just keep a decent distance from the front vehicle and so far, it has not done any dangerous braking on me during the wrong time. Oh, it has applied emergency braking couple of times, but nothing close to getting me into trouble.

But I have turned off the lane departure warning & assist, it is too irritating to drive with, and it stays off.

I prefer switching off features individually, and that is what I picked in the poll.

Here's what BHPian bblost had to say on the matter:

The first month of owning my Verna, it gave a couple of scares when the car braked hard.

But this was during the first 500 kms of the ownership.

Now my car is almost at 4000 kms. The last 3500 kms had just one ADAS emergency braking and it saved the idiot driver in front of me, who braked for no particular reason after crossing a traffic light.

ADAS, I feel has made me a better driver.

Here's what BHPian shancz had to say on the matter:

Voted Yes.

While the option to individually toggle each feature is what I would like, but a master ADAS on/off is non negotiable.

Why? First for ease of use and if anyone has driven in T2 traffic they probably get a hang of what I am talking about. Short distances, longer travel times, chaotic traffic, even on the highways.

And when the car is being used by someone else I don't think drivers here would be able to comprehend the pre-drive checklist let alone keep it as a memory item

Here's what BHPian Rajeevraj had to say on the matter:

While I do not have a car with L2 ADAS built in, as I have been working in this domain, have had the opportunity to have and test an after-market ADAS system in my car for the last ~4 years. Being an after-market system, it is only a warning system and does not do any active interventions. This I have felt is a good starting point-Give appropriate warning to the drivers and over a period of time this helps improve driver behavior. The situations and speeds at which different warnings trigger are also important. For example a tailgating alert is active only at speeds greater than 30kmph. An FCW has a different urgency below 30, a Lane Departure is triggered only above 50kmph. Even with all this, some of the warnings can get intrusive/irritating in some situations.

Keeping all this in mind, my vote for active systems is that they should be managed easily on an individual basis. Manufacturers should also look at different levels of sensitivity based on speed which users can adjust for each alert.

Having said that, managing these should also be made easy. People cannot keep fiddling with these settings all the time. One suggestion is that manufacturers can create different profiles that users can quickly select depending on the driving condition. For example: Have a warning only profile or a low intervention profile. This will ensure more and more people will use the ADAS safety features and not blindly turn everything off because there are 2 things that they do not like or are not comfortable with.

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Mini Cooper owner gets mighty impressed by the Hyundai Verna 1.5 DCT

The car feels positively ‘European’ in terms of Quality and Design and is definitely as good as, if not superior to, these new-age Skoda or VW designed-for-India vehicles.

BHPian shankar.balan recently shared this with other enthusiasts.

There is a Hyundai showroom close by and I've been intrigued by this Hyundai Verna 1.5 Turbo DCT for a while now. I've seen it ‘take off’ during a couple of highway trips. It is easily able to keep pace with my old Cooper and match my Thar for power in many ways. So we went and experienced it first-hand this morning.

Frankly, this is a real cut above the typical Hyundai or one’s mental impression of one. These new-age Hyundais deserve the kudos and recognition they get.

The car feels positively ‘European’ in terms of Quality and Design and definitely as good as, if not superior to, these new-age Skoda or VW designed-for-India vehicles. Upon taking a very short experience-drive, I was quite taken up with the thrust and power delivery from the get-go. Also worth mentioning are the fit, finish and finesse inside the vehicle, the excellent under-thigh support both in the front and rear, the tactile feel of all the buttons and the overall feel of ‘durability’ that I encountered. The seat covers too are made of faux leather and feel very long lasting.

The engine and gearbox are well-mated. The safety features and electronic aids feel built to last and not flimsy. One actually feels the G Forces from the 4-cylinder 160 bhp engine and the 250 NM of torque is evident the way the car pulls away unhesitatingly. The DCT gearbox is responsive, as are the little paddles. Amazing kick down! The 4 disc brakes clearly offer plenty of stopping power. The car feels well-planted at speeds.

The boot space is humongous and the space design is really up there despite this being a very nicely proportioned and compact vehicle. There was frankly only one ugly thing- the fat silvered plasticky door handles which seemed a little visually disproportionate though very handy to catch hold of.

Much has been written about the ‘vault-like’ door-opening-and-closing-feel’ of European cars. Well yes, this is true of the last generation, but not any longer because of the over-riding considerations of lightness and fuel efficiency. The doors of the new-age BMWs and Mini Coopers etc feel quite light. And this Hyundai Verna feels equivalent.

Suffice it to say that I came away very well-impressed overall and if I'm in the market for a well-built and value-for-money sedan, this car is definitely worthy of active consideration.

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Hyundai claims its CVT requires no fluid change, service or maintenance

I remember my old Honda City had a schedule to replace CVT fluid every 40,000 km.

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Hello BHPians. I am writing this post to share something I observed in my 2023 Verna IVT user manual. The service guide says that IVT (Hyundai's name for CVT) fluid needs no checks or service under normal usage. Please find below the screenshot of the user manual.

The keyword here being "Normal Usage". I have always heard and read that the life of a CVT transmission depends a lot on the timely replacement of CVT fluid with the right fluid. I remember my old Honda City CVT had a schedule to replace CVT fluid every 40,000 km. So is Hyundai using some special grade CVT fluid? Or Is Hyundai expecting customers not to use the car for a long mileage (above 1lakh km, maybe)

Some more screenshots to give you a perspective on what is normal usage, what calls for replacement etc are given below:

Under severe usage, Hyundai suggests CVT fluid replacement every 90,000 km.

And what constitutes severe usage is defined in the following page.

Additionally, in case the vehicle has submerged under water at any time, CVT fluid needs to be replaced.

I am a little confused with these pages. Hyundai has not given a scenario of service after 80,000 km. What will be the course of action after 80,000km? (I may not drive that much within the warranty period of 7 years, 1 lakh km, but still, I am interested to know how it will be posted 80k km until 100k km)

Here's what GTO had to say on the matter:

Manufacturers play all sorts of "low maintenance" tricks to:

  • Portray an image of being fuss-free to own
  • Lower the perceived cost of maintenance
  • Avoid training their dealerships on complex tasks
  • Avoid stocking items that are used once in 5 - 7 years
  • Lower the cost of their all-inclusive service packages
  • Make things as easy as possible for the first owner. OEMs know that most people will sell off the car in the initial 4 - 5 years. Hence, the headache of costly replacements falls on the 2nd or 3rd owner which frankly budget car buyers and manufacturers don't care about. As long as the car manufacturer keeps the 1st owner of the car happy, they know they bought loyalty. Short-term thinking, I know.

BMW says the ZF-8 gearbox in my 530d doesn't require oil changes. But if I go on the ZF website, I see clear instructions to change the transmission fluid at the 7 (or 8) year mark FOR THE SAME GEARBOX. ZF even sells a full-service kit for the same (with filter etc.) which I got done at a substantial cost. But a good gearbox is as important as a good engine IMHO. Ford says its DCTs were "sealed for life" but that was all rubbish. Never ever believe the "sealed for life" claim for any mechanical product (different matter for electronic items).

The no.1 cause of CVT failure is not getting the fluid replaced periodically. For the old City, Honda said to replace the CVT fluid every 40,000 km. I would personally stick with that (or earlier). Changing the gear oil once in 4 - 5 years shouldn't hurt any car owner.

Maruti manual says to check, refill or change at 30,000 km intervals.

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On a related note, this is also why I am not a believer in 15,000 km engine oil change intervals. For me, it is 10,000 km tops!

Here's what BHPian svsantosh had to say on the matter:

I have a mixed response to the OP post.

Many well-known YouTuber car channels have proven that "anything lifetime" is the 1st lie carmakers tell you. So mind tells me that Hyundai will surely take you for a ride.

But my humble 2013 Chevy Sail UVA Diesel was promised to have the lifetime fluid. It came with the most expensive (in my lifetime) oil I have ever heard in my life. See it to believe it. I sold my car at 1,95,000 Kms. I changed the oil 1st time at around 1.85 or 1.9Lac Kms, don't recall, but I never had any issue, Just changed it because I was bored during the Covid break.

Maybe that transmission was the best thing that GM did on the Sail UVA.

Here's what BHPian sagarpadaki had to say on the matter:

To be on the safer side 50k kms/ 5 years is a good interval to change transmission oil in our conditions.

Tata also does not recommend replacing AMT kit oil. But after 2 years of usage, the oil is jet black.

When manufacturers say lifetime no maintenance, they mean it as no maintenance until the end of the warranty. Lifetime = Warranty period.

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Installed Hella aux lamps on my Hyundai Verna: Happy with the results

The light throw is awesome but I think I should try different angles to find the correct position before going on the road trip.

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There was a problem in fixing the fog lamp as the time was very limited for me as I am going on a road trip next week. Hence, I thought I would try the aux lamps and so went with Hella Black Magic 3.2 Spot beam.

Got the lights directly from a vendor through my friend who installed the lights too. I am very happy with the performance of the lights. Light throw is awesome but I think I should try different angles before the trip to confirm the correct angle. My intention is to use them only when needed and not to blind others.

Bayview Garage helped me on time to fix this ASAP and it is a pretty neat setup too.

Attaching a few pictures here.

I also got the rim protector as complimentary and they look awesome for the full black wheels.

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1500km on my 2023 Verna turbo: Mileage, NVH, AC & 12 other observations

Out of the 1500 km, I have driven 1100 km on the highways and 400 km within the city.

BHPian xotiq recently shared this with other enthusiasts.

Completed 1500kms on the Verna SX(O) Turbo Petrol Manual, delivered during Aug 2023. The longest drive was BLR-COK and back. 1500 kms of which 1100 on highways, 400 within BLR city.

  1. Extremely sensitive to throttle inputs.
  2. As the response is quite instant, and powerful, need to be careful.
  3. Mileage within city is between 8-14kmpl, highway 12-18kmpl
  4. Got a high of 20kmpl for an 80kms stretch.
  5. Headlights are pathetic, but the cornering lights are really useful.
  6. AC cooling is fine, but felt could be better. Will be checking the core temp with my probe
  7. Steering is light and easy to use and weighs up decently on the highway. For my liking, it can be slightly heavier.
  8. Ground clearance - With 3 on board, has not scraped any BLR speed bumps.
  9. Compared to the Seltos, the Verna's ride is much better.
  10. 5-star NCAP, but doors really could do with more heft, not from a safety perspective, but often it does not close in a single try.
  11. NVH- Silent, could be more silent with damping. This is something planned.
  12. Gear shifting from 1 to 2nd is slightly notchy. Also, the gearing for 1st vs 2nd is too large?
  13. Children Crossing the Road Nuisance- Need to disable.
  14. Air filter is useful.
  15. ADAS works fine.

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My 2023 Verna: Fuel efficiency & 10 more observations after ~ 300 km

I have not opted for any car treatment instead gave it a shampoo, clay bar and ceramic spray over the weekend with some child labour from my son.

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I have driven about 250 kms in the car and its odo currently stands at 290 km.

  1. The mileage since the last refuel (odo was 41 kms) is 10 kmpl. I get around 13-15 kmpl on my home-office commute. The car gave about 3 kmpl when we got stuck in a horrible traffic jam that took over an hour to cross less than 5 km.
  2. It's extremely comfortable to drive.
  3. The air filter thing is very useful when stuck in nasty traffic.
  4. It is fast. Have to be careful and not let the inner child act immaturely.
  5. The lane assist is very useful on the Hyderabad ORR.
  6. The sensors help navigate this long car in traffic.
  7. That children crossing notification is now becoming very irritating and I will disable it soon.
  8. Headlights are just about adequate.
  9. The brakes need a little getting used to.
  10. The handling so far feels very good.
  11. My car came with Goodyears.

I have not opted for any car treatment. Instead gave it a shampoo, clay bar and ceramic spray over the weekend with some child labour from my son.

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