The TV Thread - LCD, LED etc.

reignofchaos · 3rd July 2009, 19:18

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Originally Posted by xbox360

I saw the Phillips 42PFL9703 LCD in Relaiance digital (HYD- Rd no 12 Banjara Hills) the other day. I liked the features mainly the 100Mhz refresh rate and the 2ms response time. I felt these specs are necessary for using this TV with the Xbox console as i do not want any blurring on fast moving games/programs.
The price they quoted was 90k.

Need to know --
1) Any first/second hand review for this model?
2) If the price is right?
3) Any other store where you feel i can get a better deal

PS-- i decided on this model after comparing it to an equivalent Sony model as the Sony has only 40" and also 10 bit of color when compared to 17 bit on this one. Also Sony is 10k more expensive.

Thats an awesome TV. However the G10 plasma from panasonic is probably a better all rounder and you can get it for 20 grand less.

Vid6639 · 3rd July 2009, 21:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by xbox360

I saw the Phillips 42PFL9703 LCD in Relaiance digital (HYD- Rd no 12 Banjara Hills) the other day. I liked the features mainly the 100Mhz refresh rate and the 2ms response time. I felt these specs are necessary for using this TV with the Xbox console as i do not want any blurring on fast moving games/programs.
The price they quoted was 90k.

That LCD TV has a very very good picture processor. Way ahead of the other LCD processors. Triple core processor to deal with motion judder and to remove halo effect. Philips call it Naturo motion.

I should know since I was involved in the development/testing of that processor.

vvrchandra · 4th July 2009, 18:49

I was of the opinion that Neo Plasma Display panels consume less power than the conventional PDP as I read this somewhere. But, when I saw the specs of the G series of the new plasmas(neo plasmas) from Panasonic, for the 42", the power consumption is approx 445 watts where as for an equivalent 42PV80, it is around 335 watts. Am I missing anything here or is it that I've mistaken about Neo PDP's?

rohan_fonseca · 4th July 2009, 19:14

Guys am looking out for a 42" plasma. All the tech specs making me really confused. What are the things i should be looking for when shopping for one. So far have seen the panny PV80D and PV8 and LgP30. So far liked the P80D. Some suggestions please.
Also what are the merits of a full HD over HD ready, considering that i would not be using a blu-ray player for the next couple of years atleast. Whats HD ready by the way

? Help the technologically challenged please.

kalpeshc · 6th July 2009, 09:35

HD Ready = 720p
Full HD = 1080p

At around 10 ft viewing distance, unless you are a videophile, you'll not notice any difference between both these resolutions.

The Panasonic PV80 and PV8 are both very well discussed and recommended plasmas in this thread.

appuchan · 6th July 2009, 09:58

Any news on the price of new Pana G10 plasma models from Devi electronics?

anurag_p80 · 6th July 2009, 10:43

I checked out the LG plasmas, PQ30 and PQ70, yesterday. Very impressed with the PQ, with different sources (DVD and standard cable). Too bad they did not have DTH to also compare with. The color seemed natural, with different settings, no motion blur that I could make out (checked with the mine-blowing scene in Behind Enemy Lines) and the design looked ok. Did not check the USB port (not too interested). Can somebody tell me where I can check both the Pana and the LG side by side?

BTW, best price for PV8 so far 44k, for the LG 40k. Both without any exchange, and not much negotiation. Both 42" models. Did you guys know that LG has plasmas in 32"? I was like :O

xbox360 · 6th July 2009, 10:57

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Originally Posted by aadix

thats a lot! you get a lg 47" incher (lh 50) with 200hz refresh ratio for roughly around 75k.

would have suggested the panny g10, but it hasnt come to hyd yet.

Couple of people at my office have complained that their Panasonic plasmas went bad after around 18-24 months of usage (post warranty) and now are faced with huge bill for repair. This has made me wary of this model.

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Originally Posted by reignofchaos

Thats an awesome TV. However the G10 plasma from panasonic is probably a better all rounder and you can get it for 20 grand less.

Thanks. As said above, trying to overcome my fear of Panasonic because of some stuff i heard.

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Originally Posted by vid6639

That LCD TV has a very very good picture processor. Way ahead of the other LCD processors. Triple core processor to deal with motion judder and to remove halo effect. Philips call it Naturo motion.

I should know since I was involved in the development/testing of that processor.

Yeah couldn't find a model that offered similar specs from any other brand. The only issue is how to avoid paying this high premium over some of the other reccomendations?
I was thinking if i wait a month or so till Dussera, maybe this model has more competetion and i get a better deal!

Proxima · 6th July 2009, 12:27

Guys, why are we being ripped off in India? The G10 is available for 960$ (shipped!) in the US!!!
BuyDig.com, The Internet's Digital Superstore

Is there a way (duty free) of bringing it to India? Is it safe? Any past experiences?

My friend is traveling back to India next month and I think he will be able to bring it down.

Proxima · 6th July 2009, 12:55

PNTCP42G10 | TC-P42G10 42" VIERA High-definition 1080p Plasma TV | BuyDig.com

Add to cart to get the discount.

normally_crazy · 6th July 2009, 12:59

Excise duty on LCD panels cut to 5% from 10%

SumitB · 6th July 2009, 13:02

I wonder if this will also benefit the new LED tvs. Technically LCDs and LEDs are different!!

manavdotcom · 6th July 2009, 13:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by vid6639

That LCD TV has a very very good picture processor. Way ahead of the other LCD processors. Triple core processor to deal with motion judder and to remove halo effect. Philips call it Naturo motion.

I should know since I was involved in the development/testing of that processor.

I bought 100 HZ CRT from Philips and whatever they claim, it has motion blur. The technology of 100/200 Hz doesnt' seem to be mature enough yet.

kaushik_s · 6th July 2009, 15:08

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Originally Posted by xbox360

Couple of people at my office have complained that their Panasonic plasmas went bad after around 18-24 months of usage (post warranty) and now are faced with huge bill for repair. This has made me wary of this model.

Can you ask them what exactly were the problems? What went bad? How was there viewing conditions? How was it connected to the power sockets? This will help us in avoiding such issues and heartburn. Most of the time it's not the gadget but the user to be blamed for their negligence. Please do share.

srishiva · 6th July 2009, 15:30

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Originally Posted by SumitB

I wonder if this will also benefit the new LED tvs. Technically LCDs and LEDs are different!!

Which LED TV? If its Samsung, they are LED backlit LCD TVs.

4th July 2009, 18:49	#2718
vvrchandra BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Vijayawada-AP Posts: 369 Thanked: 247 Times	I was of the opinion that Neo Plasma Display panels consume less power than the conventional PDP as I read this somewhere. But, when I saw the specs of the G series of the new plasmas(neo plasmas) from Panasonic, for the 42", the power consumption is approx 445 watts where as for an equivalent 42PV80, it is around 335 watts. Am I missing anything here or is it that I've mistaken about Neo PDP's?
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4th July 2009, 19:14	#2719
rohan_fonseca BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Panaji Posts: 984 Thanked: 9 Times View My Garage	Guys am looking out for a 42" plasma. All the tech specs making me really confused. What are the things i should be looking for when shopping for one. So far have seen the panny PV80D and PV8 and LgP30. So far liked the P80D. Some suggestions please. Also what are the merits of a full HD over HD ready, considering that i would not be using a blu-ray player for the next couple of years atleast. Whats HD ready by the way? Help the technologically challenged please. Last edited by rohan_fonseca : 4th July 2009 at 19:17.
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6th July 2009, 09:35	#2720
kalpeshc BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 544 Thanked: 141 Times	HD Ready = 720p Full HD = 1080p At around 10 ft viewing distance, unless you are a videophile, you'll not notice any difference between both these resolutions. The Panasonic PV80 and PV8 are both very well discussed and recommended plasmas in this thread.
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6th July 2009, 09:58	#2721
appuchan BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bangy Posts: 644 Thanked: 27 Times	Any news on the price of new Pana G10 plasma models from Devi electronics?
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6th July 2009, 10:43	#2722
anurag_p80 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 314 Thanked: 7 Times	I checked out the LG plasmas, PQ30 and PQ70, yesterday. Very impressed with the PQ, with different sources (DVD and standard cable). Too bad they did not have DTH to also compare with. The color seemed natural, with different settings, no motion blur that I could make out (checked with the mine-blowing scene in Behind Enemy Lines) and the design looked ok. Did not check the USB port (not too interested). Can somebody tell me where I can check both the Pana and the LG side by side? BTW, best price for PV8 so far 44k, for the LG 40k. Both without any exchange, and not much negotiation. Both 42" models. Did you guys know that LG has plasmas in 32"? I was like :O
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6th July 2009, 12:27	#2724
Proxima BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Chennai Posts: 934 Thanked: 384 Times	Guys, why are we being ripped off in India? The G10 is available for 960$ (shipped!) in the US!!! BuyDig.com, The Internet's Digital Superstore Is there a way (duty free) of bringing it to India? Is it safe? Any past experiences? My friend is traveling back to India next month and I think he will be able to bring it down. Last edited by Proxima : 6th July 2009 at 12:30.
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6th July 2009, 12:55	#2725
Proxima BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Chennai Posts: 934 Thanked: 384 Times	PNTCP42G10 \| TC-P42G10 42" VIERA High-definition 1080p Plasma TV \| BuyDig.com Add to cart to get the discount.
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6th July 2009, 12:59	#2726
normally_crazy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,305 Thanked: 543 Times View My Garage	Excise duty on LCD panels cut to 5% from 10%
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6th July 2009, 13:02	#2727
SumitB BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Shillong Posts: 989 Thanked: 265 Times	I wonder if this will also benefit the new LED tvs. Technically LCDs and LEDs are different!!
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