Blackberry Phones and Services in India

shajufx · 20th April 2009, 21:54

Yes business demands it, but I would make myself a lazy bum if I depend too much on a BB rather than being online at work hours. Not only that, I am not able to run any business related softwares on my BB because of the 3rd party restrictions. So, I miserably find the limitations of a BB ! Spending for a BOLD may not change these limitations too, thats the saddest part.

Jaggu · 21st April 2009, 10:17

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Originally Posted by shajufx

Software upgrade improves the signal reception ? I never heard of such a thing. Are you serious ?

Yes it can if the update tweaks the wireless chips in someways.

mobike008 · 21st April 2009, 12:46

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Originally Posted by quickdraw

Thats good news, are you noticing better signal reception as well?

Well, its too early to comment. Hope it improves. Will keep all posted. I was terrified in the beginning with low signal reception. I think the problem still exists. Let me check to be sure.

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@ Shaju : Yes it does improve reception. Its not about being rich or anything, if business demands something you spend on it.

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Originally Posted by Jaggu

Yes it can if the update tweaks the wireless chips in someways.

This is heartening news

deepakchan · 21st April 2009, 15:52

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Originally Posted by quickdraw

You can assign anytime of message as "Level 1" be it E-Mail/SMS/PIN messages. You can find it under Messaging > Options. Its actually to define what kind of message to treat as first priority when yiu unlock/unholster the set.

Oh. Thats wonderful. I shall try that. Useful feature!

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Originally Posted by quickdraw

I asked because AFAIK the 8830 is bricked, and hence would be of no use

No it is not bricked. Planning to use Tata Indicom's Insta Change card and use the ESN to register for my wife's connection and use it as a normal phone.

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Originally Posted by shajufx

Lots of upgrading happening here ??!! Deepak is still fighting minute issues I think. Please post it here deepak, experts or die-hard BB users could throw some light on almost everything.

Ok. Here goes my problem. I have subscribed to a yahoo groups which doesn't allow attachments and delivers digest email (25 messages or 1 day) whichever happens earlier. When I receive a full digest the message gets truncated beyond a point. When I was using 8830, when i scroll the trackball down, it will automatically fetch the remaining part of the mail again to a certain point, and this process repeats until the full email is downloaded. Since attachments aren't allowed in this group, it is fully text although in html format, it will not cross 200kB maximum. But this doesn't happen in the Storm, it just says message truncated and there is no data activity shown. Even if I swipe up and down a couple of times, still the same result. I tried searching forums through google, and the discussions are usually about receiving attachments more than 3MB/5MB. Which is not the case with me at all. There is no attachment and the size of the email itself is less than half an MB. I do not know what setting I should change to automatically fetch the remaining part of the email when I reach the bottom. Any ideas?

Could this be a limitation of the gmail forwarding server? One solution for an attachment problem in one of the forums was to forward the big mails to the mobileoperator.blackberry.com I created a filter for those digest mails in gmail to deliver them to my airtel.blackberry.com address. Let us see what happens when the next email comes.

shajufx · 21st April 2009, 20:46

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Originally Posted by deepakchan

But this doesn't happen in the Storm, it just says message truncated and there is no data activity shown. Even if I swipe up and down a couple of times, still the same result.....Any ideas?

Would you mind giving the storm to me for a month, so that I can investigate the heart and soul of the 'storm' and educate you !

DerAlte · 21st April 2009, 21:25

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Originally Posted by deepakchan

... I do not know what setting I should change to automatically fetch the remaining part of the email when I reach the bottom. ...

Should in the menu of email: Messages Options > General Options > Actions > Auto More - set it to Yes.

deepakchan · 22nd April 2009, 12:30

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Originally Posted by DerAlte

Should in the menu of email: Messages Options > General Options > Actions > Auto More - set it to Yes.

It is already set to Yes. Just checked. And the trick of forwarding digest messages to myusername@airtel.blackberry.com is also getting truncated beyond a point. I wonder how a text-only HTML mail (which doesn't even have much embedded images except for the Yahoo! logo) should get truncated when it is hardly 200KB :(

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Originally Posted by shajufx

Would you mind giving the storm to me for a month, so that I can investigate the heart and soul of the 'storm' and educate you !

Ahem..

deepakchan · 22nd April 2009, 15:35

After some extensive searching I found this on blackberryforums.

The official problem is available on blackberry.com/btsc Doc No. KB13677

Excerpts: The BlackBerry smartphone can receive a maximum of 32 KB of compressed data in the message body. This is by design.

jgsolo27 · 26th April 2009, 14:58

Hi all!

On 20th of this month I sent a email to Airtel for the activation BISLITE Plan@299 and within a few hours I had it activated. Since the BlackBerry 8310 Curve I had ordered had not come by then I was using my old 7130G, which I had almost thrown it out!

Yesterday I got my Curve 8310 in hand and the first thing I did was upgrading my Device Software to v4.5.0.124 (Platform 2.7.0.92). The upgradation went on smoothly without any hitch and in around 40 minutes I was through. Other things, like downloading Contacts from Outlook and Service Books from Airtel BlackBerry account were just a breeze.

quickdraw · 26th April 2009, 16:41

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Originally Posted by jgsolo27

Hi all!

On 20th of this month I sent a email to Airtel for the activation BISLITE Plan@299 and within a few hours I had it activated. Since the BlackBerry 8310 Curve I had ordered had not come by then I was using my old 7130G, which I had almost thrown it out!

Yesterday I got my Curve 8310 in hand and the first thing I did was upgrading my Device Software to v4.5.0.124 (Platform 2.7.0.92). The upgradation went on smoothly without any hitch and in around 40 minutes I was through. Other things, like downloading Contacts from Outlook and Service Books from Airtel BlackBerry account were just a breeze.

Congrats on your brand new berry, mind sharing how much you bought it for?

jgsolo27 · 27th April 2009, 13:08

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Originally Posted by quickdraw

Congrats on your brand new berry, mind sharing how much you bought it for?

Thanks. I don't mind sharing the price. I got it for 12.6K.

I need a clarification from Airtel BIS 299 Plan users. Airtel says I can either have BIS or Mobile Office, but not both, though I am ready to pay a rental for both. For Mobile Banking and certain other applications MO is very much required. They insist that I take BIS 899 Plan if I want MO and BIS together. How is it with Vodafone?

Bass&Trouble · 27th April 2009, 14:25

Can anyone please tell me how to configure a Blackberry Bold for POP3 over Wi-Fi please? And I am unable to find the browser in the darn thing too.

nishantgandhi · 27th April 2009, 14:41

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Originally Posted by jgsolo27

Thanks. I don't mind sharing the price. I got it for 12.6K.

I need a clarification from Airtel BIS 299 Plan users. Airtel says I can either have BIS or Mobile Office, but not both, though I am ready to pay a rental for both. For Mobile Banking and certain other applications MO is very much required. They insist that I take BIS 899 Plan if I want MO and BIS together. How is it with Vodafone?

Welcome to the on going discussion. I have been breaking my head over the same question and since I did not get a clear answer, I decided not to go for a BB and opted for a Nokia E71 instead.

From what users have posted on this thread, you cant have any other data package active with the BIS 299 plan. Period. So forget the mobile banking/ticketing/FB applications.

quickdraw · 27th April 2009, 15:34

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Originally Posted by jgsolo27

Thanks. I don't mind sharing the price. I got it for 12.6K.

I need a clarification from Airtel BIS 299 Plan users. Airtel says I can either have BIS or Mobile Office, but not both, though I am ready to pay a rental for both. For Mobile Banking and certain other applications MO is very much required. They insist that I take BIS 899 Plan if I want MO and BIS together. How is it with Vodafone?

You can use all the functions you want with the BIS 899 plan, it includes unlimited everything.

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Originally Posted by Bass&Trouble

Can anyone please tell me how to configure a Blackberry Bold for POP3 over Wi-Fi please? And I am unable to find the browser in the darn thing too.

Which BB did you buy? (Grey/w-bill?) Have you activated BIS on it? The push email service doesnt work over wi-fi you can download apps and use it or browse it manually online.

Bass&Trouble · 27th April 2009, 17:24

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Originally Posted by quickdraw

Which BB did you buy? (Grey/w-bill?) Have you activated BIS on it? The push email service doesnt work over wi-fi you can download apps and use it or browse it manually online.

Blackberry Bold. It's not the official one, says T-Mobile. No Blackberry service either, because mail is not required 'on-the-move'.

Preferred option would be to use a client like Outlook on the phone, to check for the home/ office wireles network and to connect via POP3 and download new mail.

Second option is to access the email provider website, but.. where's the browser?

20th April 2009, 21:54	#751
shajufx Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Ottawa Posts: 1,808 Thanked: 832 Times View My Garage	Yes business demands it, but I would make myself a lazy bum if I depend too much on a BB rather than being online at work hours. Not only that, I am not able to run any business related softwares on my BB because of the 3rd party restrictions. So, I miserably find the limitations of a BB ! Spending for a BOLD may not change these limitations too, thats the saddest part.
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22nd April 2009, 15:35	#758
deepakchan BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Chennai Posts: 126 Thanked: 51 Times	After some extensive searching I found this on blackberryforums. The official problem is available on blackberry.com/btsc Doc No. KB13677 Excerpts: The BlackBerry smartphone can receive a maximum of 32 KB of compressed data in the message body. This is by design.
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26th April 2009, 14:58	#759
jgsolo27 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Pondicherry Posts: 71 Thanked: 15 Times	Blackberry 8310 Hi all! On 20th of this month I sent a email to Airtel for the activation BISLITE Plan@299 and within a few hours I had it activated. Since the BlackBerry 8310 Curve I had ordered had not come by then I was using my old 7130G, which I had almost thrown it out! Yesterday I got my Curve 8310 in hand and the first thing I did was upgrading my Device Software to v4.5.0.124 (Platform 2.7.0.92). The upgradation went on smoothly without any hitch and in around 40 minutes I was through. Other things, like downloading Contacts from Outlook and Service Books from Airtel BlackBerry account were just a breeze.
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27th April 2009, 14:25	#762
Bass&Trouble Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bombay Posts: 2,756 Thanked: 137 Times	Can anyone please tell me how to configure a Blackberry Bold for POP3 over Wi-Fi please? And I am unable to find the browser in the darn thing too.
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