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Old 27th October 2019, 13:23   #541
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Can any pundit please explain to me what is the difference between the regular (international) MQB platform and MQB A0-IN ?
As many have pointed out and many know, VW has been procuring cheaper parts for Indian make VW cars. For example, try rotating the AC switch of Skoda Superb and then of VW Polo, there is a significant difference. It was not so when I had the Fabia.
The best part of VW (globally) was that they never differentiated between their different models. That made me fall in love with the whole group. Of course there are many many more reasons (I will fill a few pages of praise, so wont mention here). Even now many parts are shared even between a Polo and a Porsche !!!
Now I am dreading that they are actively working towards "Indianising" their cars. Chassis is one of the main things that defines the behaviour of the car on road. Every VW/Skoda car I have driven is an absolute joy to drive. Therefore does anyone know (technical point of view) the difference there is in the "IN" version of MQB.
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Can any pundit please explain to me what is the difference between the regular (international) MQB platform and MQB A0-IN ?
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The A0 is for the small cars like the POLO "MQB Based" and then the IN is for the reduction/simplification of this MQB-A0. What it means is that region specific deletion i.e. If VW does not want AWD in T-Cross the parts of the MQB-A0-IN that facilitates that will be removed. AWD example is just that but as far as sales people go they assured me that MQB-A0-IN would be equal to the MQB on Tiguan which I dont agree with.

VW and Skoda has recently started to go off the mark. When I bought my Octavia it felt the best build compared to the competition and VFM but Tiguan does not seem to be much better than Compass in a lot of ways.

I am still in the market for a small crossover and while I have advanced booked the Seltos and BS6 Compass final call will be taken when the pricing for the new BS6 Compass comes thru.

All in all I think T-Cross would be compromised product "Like AMEO"
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Yes, one thing I've understood in my years of experience is that what the sales and service guys cannot be trusted with their knowledge. I usually end up in explaining a thing or two to them which they had no clue about!
Last week I made my parents purchase a polo GT tsi. The sales guy was like, " sir this is not for a city like Patna, sir this car is for you, not for your senior citizens" He made me so furious, i asked him to resign. VW does not even have a non tsi polo anywhere else on the planet (not 100% sure) and this smart ass is saying things just for the heck of it!
Anyways, I am also looking and waiting for a Yeti (my current car) kind of SUV from VW or Skoda and would rather keep this car for 5 more years than buy a substandard or overpriced VW/Skoda.
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'Diesel cars at petrol car prices'. That's VW's new scheme that I heard on radio yesterday. Massive discounts being offered to clear diesel stocks. Its valid on Ameo, Vento and Polo.
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Yes, one thing I've understood in my years of experience is that what the sales and service guys cannot be trusted with their knowledge. I usually end up in explaining a thing or two to them which they had no clue about!

Anyways, I am also looking and waiting for a Yeti (my current car) kind of SUV from VW or Skoda and would rather keep this car for 5 more years than buy a substandard or overpriced VW/Skoda.

Consider that most of these salesmen are merely
doing a job for a certain amount of pay and that pay per se is pretty low overall. Relatively few of them have any passion for the category or product that they are selling and hence cannot be expected to invest their time in learning more about it. Therefore I think the gap in knowledge such as you have pointed out is only going to get wider and more pronounced.

It is true that at this present moment in India there is absolutely NO proper replacement for the Yeti. However, such a replacement (as you say you are waiting for), whether from VW/ Skoda or anyone else, really must come with an AT option, given our frightful urban traffic scenario.

The only thing that could have come close is the Jeep Renegade but it appears that FCA India is fast asleep like Rip Van Winkle, while the world around them changes.
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With its India 2.0 project another 18 months away, Volkswagen shuts down its Chakan plant for 2 months( current plan of one month extended to another)

Slowing export markets, decade-low domestic volumes and discontinuation of diesel and Ameo sedan are together expected to pull down the brand to a new low.

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As against the plan of delivering volumes of close to one lakh units, Volkswagen is likely to fall short of its annual target by 15% in 2019 to 85,000 units (production)
There is pressure to install the MQB line in India at the earliest to align with global production.

The plan is to move to a new generation MQB line by the 17th week of 2020 in order to be ready for the future

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Being a Volkswagen car owner ( Volkswagen Vento), it feels sad to see the sorry state of affairs at Volkswagen India. Good product lineup and great market potential wasted by lousy and late decisions, extremely poor after sales service, no refreshed product lineup, high cost and non availability of spares on multiple occasions & zero customer engagement. The MQB - A0 platform also seems to be coming late with first product launch only in 2021. I believe Volkswagen Skoda India CEO also said that going is very tough from 2019 to 2021. I wonder how they plan to survive.
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With its India 2.0 project another 18 months away, Volkswagen shuts down its Chakan plant for 2 months( current plan of one month extended to another)

Slowing export markets, decade-low domestic volumes and discontinuation of diesel and Ameo sedan are together expected to pull down the brand to a new low.


There is pressure to install the MQB line in India at the earliest to align with global production.

The plan is to move to a new generation MQB line by the 17th week of 2020 in order to be ready for the future

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Is this the same plant where the Rapid is manufactured as well? I have booked a Rapid Rider last month and the sales guy just informed me that there would be no deliveries in Dec either! Skoda unable to supply cars is a new one..
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Volkswagen confirms Vitara Brezza rival for India.

Remember TAIGUN, a similar compact, the smallest from VAG developed in Brazil will trickle to India too.

Called A0SUV it is expected to come in 2022.


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and our smallest SUV, nicknamed A0 SUV, will be rolled out in 2021

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Volkswagen Nivus teased for the Brazil.

- based on the A0 platform.
- Developed in Brazil
- It is in an SUV-Coupe shape (might change for India)
- It was also supposed to be called the T-Sport
- Available only with the 1.0 TSI engine
- 126 hp version of the engine will be available with a six-speed auto
- The six-speed manual gets a detuned 114 hp version.
- Front wheel drive
- Rs 12 lakh to Rs 15 lakh price prediction for Brazil (VW needs to shave off atleast 2.5 lakhs for India!)


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VW's BS6 Portfolio:

- Only Petrol range in the mass market segment. Polo’s 1.0-litre naturally aspirated engine will be upgraded to BS6 standards.

-The 1.0-litre turbo petrol unit is expected to produce 115PS/200Nm in the Polo GT TSI as well as Vento TSI.

- Vento to be offered with a 7-speed DSG and a 6-speed manual gearbox as well.

-Volkswagen Polo GT TSI could get a manual with this update.

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-Volkswagen Polo GT TSI could get a manual with this update.
That would be a good decision if they do so. With the TDI going into sunset, there needs to be a manual transmission Polo GT (TSI) for those who prefer manuals over DSGs for personal tastes. The GT afterall is for the enthusiasts & a large proportion of them sure loves manual boxes!
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I think enthusiasts should grab the current 1.2 TSI model as it is a gem of an engine.
The 1.0 TSI might sound more powerful on paper but it is a smaller capacity 3-cylinder engine probably with a bigger turbo which will mean more turbo-lag and poor drive-ability compared to the 1.2 4-cylinder TSI. Also, the 1.0 TSI develops peak torque at higher rpm (2000 compared to 1500). I checked the 0-100 numbers and even there, both are comparable (around 9.5 secs for the Polo).

The only good thing is the manual transmission which will open up this market for the Polo GT and Vento for a broader audience.
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Volkswagen's new TDI is back and claims it is cleaner than EVER - Twin dosing Concept!

The new Twin-Dosing system reduces NOx emissions by over 80 percent leading to a much cleaner engine,





Volkswagen will not give up on ICE, will build gasoline and diesel-powered cars alongside their electrified offerings for years to come.

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VW recently introduced the all-new EA 288 EVO diesel engine to debut their new Twin-Dosing Technology. To explain this new system, VW created an animated video that shows this new system in action. The EA 288 EVO uses a sophisticated system that features two catalytic converters each with their own Ammonia injection system Ammonia is needed to reduce Nitrogen Oxide emissions which were the main culprit behind the dieselgate scandal.

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Volkswagen shows its plans by revealing T A I G U N for India.

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