SCOOP! 2016 Toyota Innova spotted testing in Bangalore. More pics on page 7

romeomidhun · 22nd July 2014, 18:07

Toyota is paving way for the smaller Avanza by pushing Innova higher up in the segment. And Avanza will be a perfect fit for Toyota in the compact MPV segment to lead the fight against Ertiga and Mobilio.

DicKy · 22nd July 2014, 19:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by romeomidhun

Toyota is paving way for the smaller Avanza by pushing Innova higher up in the segment. And Avanza will be a perfect fit for Toyota in the compact MPV segment to lead the fight against Ertiga and Mobilio.

This point has been said for ages, but Toyota isn't even heeding to it.
The Avanza and the Rush (though not exactly cutting edge) has the potential to bring enormous volumes to Toyota showrooms. Instead they have been waiting for the Etios to create a miracle.

The Rush may not come till the next gen is launched with monocoque body and Toyota is waiting for it. Whereas the Avanza makes a good case for itself as Toyota doesn't have any other suitable vehicles to take on the new mini MPVs.

LoneWolf9 · 23rd July 2014, 01:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by romeomidhun

Toyota is paving way for the smaller Avanza by pushing Innova higher up in the segment. And Avanza will be a perfect fit for Toyota in the compact MPV segment to lead the fight against Ertiga and Mobilio.

Looking at that thing, there is no way it can be priced lower than Innova unless they push the price further up for Innova. So basically from a price perspective, Avanza would be placed where Innova should have been actually (still higher than Ertiga/Mobillio). In that case, Avanza would kill Innova.

Toyota would continue to live with their current line up with few tweaks here and there .I dont think they are really very serious about the Indian market.They are happy with the Innova and Fortuner. There are so many models that they can get to India. For SUV market itself, there is so much gap to fill below and above fortuner.

vsbabu · 23rd July 2014, 06:43

I saw this last weekend at Indira Nagar. It was next to my Innova. Not sure if it was because of the artwork, but it looked significantly larger and boxier than the current Innova.

romeomidhun · 23rd July 2014, 10:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneWolf9

Looking at that thing, there is no way it can be priced lower than Innova unless they push the price further up for Innova.

In Indonesia, the Avanza is priced around 2L cheaper than Innova. Toyota can adopt the same policy here too.

Cartman · 23rd July 2014, 12:07

Brilliant scoop. Thanks for sharing!

It'd be interesting to see what pricing policy Toyota adopts with this one. The name "Innova" has generated so much loyalty that it'd sell even if it came with two horses to tug it around.

I know people who've replaced their old Innova for a new Innova and if this one ticks all the right boxes, they might replace their new Innova with a newer Innova.

As a few people pointed out, Toyota does need to get in an MPV to compete with the Ertiga and the Mobilio. Lot of competition space in the sub 12L MPV segment.

Cheers!
Cartman.

rajshenoy · 23rd July 2014, 12:11

Toyota is making news on multiple fronts.. Innova, Fortuner, talks of vios !!

Innova for sure needs better Engine. May be they can do like M&M does with their Xylo. Current engine for the cabbies and the more juicier one for private car buyers.

fz_rider · 24th July 2014, 15:52

According to Autocar, the next gen Innova will be based on the current IMV platform with plush interiors and better third row.

http://m.autocarindia.com/Article.as...9441&type=News

nitinmurali · 24th July 2014, 21:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by fz_rider

According to Autocar, the next gen Innova will be based on the current IMV platform with plush interiors and better third row.

http://m.autocarindia.com/Article.as...9441&type=News

But according to them its coming in 2016.
Were they referring the model name like 2016 innova or the other way?

fz_rider · 25th July 2014, 13:38

Here is the front look. It looks like its going to be twin barrel headlamps. The front and the overall proportions look good.

rutvij · 25th July 2014, 14:24

Honda Mobilio has been recently launched and looks good. Only drawback is very ordinary interiors. Otherwise I would definitely think about replacing my Innova with Mobilio. There might be others who may change their decision to Mobilio from Innova which looks same since about a decade now and with same interior.

I therefore believe that the launch date may not be too distant in 2016. Test mules have been found in other countries also. They seem to have fixed the designing part and probably interiors also.

How much time Toyota takes to launch the care after test mules have been spotted?

manishk123 · 26th July 2014, 13:37

Just back from the Honda showroom where I had gone determined to book a Mobilo. However after seeing the car I changed my mind. It absolutely cannot be compared to an Innova. Its really compact and cramped for space, 3 in the middle row is only possible with a small kid, unlike the innova which is very spacious. The drive also was very average and the car lacks the solid feel that an innova gives while cruising on the highway. The interiors are very basic in even the top of the line version with no climate control or bluetooth. Even the stereo is a very ordinary one.

Really bored of the innova's looks but I guess there's no other choice. Incidentally this will be my third innova replacement.

Ps - I heard new Innova is launching in Thailand in September, so I guess early 2015 could be a possibility for India.

manishk123 · 26th July 2014, 15:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by fz_rider

Here is the front look. It looks like its going to be twin barrel headlamps. The front and the overall proportions look good.

The front end looks a lot like the Highlander sold in the US.

ku69rd · 30th July 2014, 14:27

Honestly I do not find anything wrong with the existing form. The previous version was even better aesthetically compared to the existing one.
What they really need to change is the gear box and make it a bit more broader. the current setup groans and moans once you push the car to north of 120 Kays. Everything else is simply good.

sudeep.pandya · 31st July 2014, 16:45

With this they are definitely taking the Innova to Fortuner level. Looking at the anticipated all new Innova, Greedy toyota will price it 18 lac plus and position these two products as best MUV (Innova) and best SUV (Fortuner)
Remember their is no premium MUV available in 20 lac+ market. They sure would capitalize the brand equity which this car has earned.

Sent from my iPhone using Team-BHP

22nd July 2014, 18:07	#61
romeomidhun BANNED Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 3,282 Thanked: 4,876 Times	re: SCOOP! 2016 Toyota Innova spotted testing in Bangalore. More pics on page 7 Toyota is paving way for the smaller Avanza by pushing Innova higher up in the segment. And Avanza will be a perfect fit for Toyota in the compact MPV segment to lead the fight against Ertiga and Mobilio. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by romeomidhun : 22nd July 2014 at 18:11.
	(5) Thanks

23rd July 2014, 06:43	#64
vsbabu BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 170 Thanked: 283 Times	re: SCOOP! 2016 Toyota Innova spotted testing in Bangalore. More pics on page 7 I saw this last weekend at Indira Nagar. It was next to my Innova. Not sure if it was because of the artwork, but it looked significantly larger and boxier than the current Innova.
	() Thanks

23rd July 2014, 12:07	#66
Cartman BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Mumbai Posts: 411 Thanked: 244 Times	re: SCOOP! 2016 Toyota Innova spotted testing in Bangalore. More pics on page 7 Brilliant scoop. Thanks for sharing! It'd be interesting to see what pricing policy Toyota adopts with this one. The name "Innova" has generated so much loyalty that it'd sell even if it came with two horses to tug it around. I know people who've replaced their old Innova for a new Innova and if this one ticks all the right boxes, they might replace their new Innova with a newer Innova. As a few people pointed out, Toyota does need to get in an MPV to compete with the Ertiga and the Mobilio. Lot of competition space in the sub 12L MPV segment. Cheers! Cartman.
	(1) Thanks

23rd July 2014, 12:11	#67
rajshenoy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: bangalore Posts: 2,885 Thanked: 2,230 Times View My Garage	re: SCOOP! 2016 Toyota Innova spotted testing in Bangalore. More pics on page 7 Toyota is making news on multiple fronts.. Innova, Fortuner, talks of vios !! Innova for sure needs better Engine. May be they can do like M&M does with their Xylo. Current engine for the cabbies and the more juicier one for private car buyers.
	() Thanks

24th July 2014, 15:52	#68
fz_rider Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: World Posts: 1,148 Thanked: 766 Times	re: SCOOP! 2016 Toyota Innova spotted testing in Bangalore. More pics on page 7 According to Autocar, the next gen Innova will be based on the current IMV platform with plush interiors and better third row. http://m.autocarindia.com/Article.as...9441&type=News Last edited by fz_rider : 24th July 2014 at 15:55.
	() Thanks

25th July 2014, 13:38	#70
fz_rider Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: World Posts: 1,148 Thanked: 766 Times	re: SCOOP! 2016 Toyota Innova spotted testing in Bangalore. More pics on page 7 Here is the front look. It looks like its going to be twin barrel headlamps. The front and the overall proportions look good. Attached Thumbnails
	(1) Thanks

25th July 2014, 14:24	#71
rutvij BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ahmedabad Posts: 423 Thanked: 220 Times	re: SCOOP! 2016 Toyota Innova spotted testing in Bangalore. More pics on page 7 Honda Mobilio has been recently launched and looks good. Only drawback is very ordinary interiors. Otherwise I would definitely think about replacing my Innova with Mobilio. There might be others who may change their decision to Mobilio from Innova which looks same since about a decade now and with same interior. I therefore believe that the launch date may not be too distant in 2016. Test mules have been found in other countries also. They seem to have fixed the designing part and probably interiors also. How much time Toyota takes to launch the care after test mules have been spotted?
	() Thanks

26th July 2014, 13:37	#72
manishk123 BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: mumbai Posts: 542 Thanked: 708 Times View My Garage	re: SCOOP! 2016 Toyota Innova spotted testing in Bangalore. More pics on page 7 Just back from the Honda showroom where I had gone determined to book a Mobilo. However after seeing the car I changed my mind. It absolutely cannot be compared to an Innova. Its really compact and cramped for space, 3 in the middle row is only possible with a small kid, unlike the innova which is very spacious. The drive also was very average and the car lacks the solid feel that an innova gives while cruising on the highway. The interiors are very basic in even the top of the line version with no climate control or bluetooth. Even the stereo is a very ordinary one. Really bored of the innova's looks but I guess there's no other choice. Incidentally this will be my third innova replacement. Ps - I heard new Innova is launching in Thailand in September, so I guess early 2015 could be a possibility for India. Last edited by manishk123 : 26th July 2014 at 13:38.
	(3) Thanks

30th July 2014, 14:27	#74
ku69rd Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,510 Thanked: 1,779 Times View My Garage	re: SCOOP! 2016 Toyota Innova spotted testing in Bangalore. More pics on page 7 Honestly I do not find anything wrong with the existing form. The previous version was even better aesthetically compared to the existing one. What they really need to change is the gear box and make it a bit more broader. the current setup groans and moans once you push the car to north of 120 Kays. Everything else is simply good.
	() Thanks

31st July 2014, 16:45	#75
sudeep.pandya BHPian Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Chhindwara(M.P) Posts: 240 Thanked: 457 Times	With this they are definitely taking the Innova to Fortuner level. Looking at the anticipated all new Innova, Greedy toyota will price it 18 lac plus and position these two products as best MUV (Innova) and best SUV (Fortuner) Remember their is no premium MUV available in 20 lac+ market. They sure would capitalize the brand equity which this car has earned. Sent from my iPhone using Team-BHP
	() Thanks