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Originally Posted by sachinayak While i completely agree with you that this is a gimmicky feature, would not a sunroof or push-button start too come in the same category. |
No chance. Please don't mistake my cirticism of a wearable key as just blind criticism. A sunroof is not at all gimmicky. First off, it lets in more light and makes the cabin feel more airy. This is India and it's too hot you say? Then why complain when door sills are too high? An airy cabin is always appreciated. We are a race of convenience; we want a more airy cabin even if it means that the climate control system has to work a little bit more. Secondly, although not applicable to everyone, as a smoker, I can tell you that a sunroof is an absolute boon. One can just ash the cigarette through the sun roof and not have to worry about wind hitting your face or the ash flying back inside very simple and elegant way to smoke
As for push-button start, live with it and then try complaining about it. It is nice to have one neat looking keyfob and not have to fumble about slotting the key into the hole everytime to start your car. Besides, it is also nice to not have to worry where the key is as these systems always make sure to warn you if the key is not on your possession or if the key is still in the car and you are trying to lock it. Keyless entry and push button start both do play a role in convenience.
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Originally Posted by sachinayak Sunroof, while i agree increases the desirability quotient if large enough, its completely impractical in our weather. And with some senseless brains on our roads (who let kids stand out of sunroofs) we could surely do without one. |
Like I already pointed out, an airy cabin is always appreciated regardless of weather conditions. Heck just look at how popular convertibles are in Britain where its perpetually dreadful weather, look how popular the Sierra was back in its day even though its massive windows were fixed and couldn't even be opened. If you admit that there is a desirability quotient to it not to mention all the other factors that I have brought up, then why say that it shouldn't be there because people let their kids stand through it? Thats like saying don't sell bikes above 150cc because lots of people might crash them. That is to do with education.
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Originally Posted by sachinayak |
positives and negatives exist for everything out there besides I failed to find anything of note, apart from one member bringing up the point that engine could not be turned off while in motion which would help during brake failure. Infact there are several members on that thread that argue it is actually quite a boon, anyway, let me deconstruct the brake failure and not being able to turn off the car while in motion argument; first off, in India we only hear of brake failure in cars because privileged uneducated folks use it as an excuse for mowing down pedestrian when they are drunk. The actual chances of brake failure in a modern car are less than the chances of you being struck by lightning, secondly, if the driver has the experience and presence of mind to know that turning off the car will add braking force, he/she can just as easily get the car to stall. Besides working down the gears gradually increasing engine breaking is always better than stalling the car which could induce it to spin or skid out of control.
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Originally Posted by sachinayak Now coming back to this, as per the pictures (and as per what Jaguar offers) this just seems to be an additional method to unlock the car, and not the primary/only method. Am sure you can still hand over the keys to the valet, if you wish to. It would be naive to think Tata Motors would force you to take off your wearable device? |
Thankyou kind sir for pointing this out. If you read my post carefully, you will see that I said that this was strictly my opinion that this seemed gimmicky also let me just say, I am not stupid enough to think that one would be forced to use a wearable. If I thought that, I wouldn't even be interested in buying the car. You can clearly see the key detached from the band in the images for crying out loud. All I mean was that it seemed like a waste to me.
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Originally Posted by sachinayak That said wearables have been the trend for some time (and is still very much in use by folks in my circle) so, kudos to Tata Motors to try something fancy. |
Actually if you are financially with the times, you notice that 'wearables' of the sort we are discussing (not smart watches which offer a lot more functionality), are no longer enjoying success. Here's an interesting read for you:
https://www.engadget.com/2017/07/07/...bles-industry/
Like I said in my post, I myself owned a fitbit and used it for a year until I came to the realization that it was quite unnecessary.
A key like the one on the BMW 7 series, where it interfaces with the car and lets you know certain details about it, would have been useful. Could be argued that it is gimmicky just as you have tried to claim that sunroofs and push button start is, but it would still have its pros. Obviously the BMW key is really expensive but perhaps a cheaper one that only gives a few essential bit of info on the cars status, would be nicer. This band, seems to have no use atleast to me. Still eagerly awaiting a test drive of this car though.
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Originally Posted by amrutmhatre90 It wont be used by many people but it will be good to have one, for example one goes to gym or swimming or say hiking, I would always have in mind say my key might get lost, this active key on wrist might be helpful in these scenario's. Also, these wouldn't track your steps or anything, it is just a NFC tag. |
Well it can be argued that there are so many other items like your phone, wallet, earphones etc that you are scared of losing in the gym or when you go hiking. Which is why you have lockers and backpacks. One product to solve a universal issue is more preferable than creating a wearable solution for each product.
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Originally Posted by DieselAddikt Wonder why people are so keen on ridiculing something even before understanding how it works. Sorry I had to say this.
To make it clear, it is NOT a replacement for actual key. This is not to help people eliminate carrying the key fob. |
Please hold your horses. Extend me the courtesy of assuming I am smart enough to know that. Like I have already explained, I do not think that it is a replacement and haven't even said so in my post. If I did think that it was, I wouldn't still be interested in the car. I am not ridiculing the car. Just this feature, and have done so with multiple clear reasons (so it isn't like I am blindly dissing the feature) as well as a disclaimer that this is solely
my opinion. Please don't take offence or think that I am trying to bash anything. I was just sad to see that they engineered a band for the key fob instead of perhaps adding the Hexa's audio system as an option.
Anyway I never meant to invite such defensive posts. I am not attacking anything here, please calm down.