I completely agree with bhaskaracs and reddevilgautam
I have mentioned this earlier too - Jeep can not afford to go anything above 10% over creta
All those who are saying that they haven't compromised on quality - I just have one question guys - should this come as a surprise? Or should we not expect good quality as a basic norm?
Hyundai enjoys a market share only second to maruti and has been notorious with pricing their sub par products by giving great quality feel on what can be seen and felt, and dismal quality just below the skin. Their vehicles are feature packed but are ridiculous in terms of reliability and long term ownership.
All the hyundai cars we've owned have aged quiet horribly after the initial 3-4 years. With the sheet metal rusting (doors) and literally having holes due to corrosion, electronics malfunction within the first couple of years itself and quiet a few severe quality concerns.
Where as I also have a 6+years old punto which still hasn't had any major problem. Only problem so far has been the dealership. Not the vehicle.
We all know punto was priced lot better than the flimsily built i20 and still it never managed to get even 1/10th of sales figures.
Now please try and understand, FCA can not afford any failure of their products in india else not only will they wind up their retail operations, but will also be forced to shut down their manufacturing units in which they've recently invested handsome amounts.
Compass if not wrong would be atleast 25% more expensive than renegade and if I'm not wrong renegade range would infact be in the 10-12 lacs bracket.
Keeping that in mind as well as jeeps over all strategy, they wouldn't go much above the ridiculously priced creta just because they are giving quality which runs much deeper than the skin.
If FCA plans to sell 2000-2500 vehicles a month with their wafer thin dealer and after sales network, don't you think they will price it as aggressively as possible?
While one may argue that world over it competes with Tucson, but we all know how successful has Tucson been in our market - right? Needless to say Jeep can't afford taking that risk.
And I would like to remind everyone here again, Jeep enjoys a huge advantage with 85%+ local sourcing - making the acquisition of parts cheaper by atleast 40-60% - which would simply mean the production cost coming down close to 40%
With the GST coming in, the locally assembled vehicles will anyways see a price correction of anything between 5-10%, where as the vehicles which are made with knockdown and imported kits will unfortunately miss out on that advantage too.
All in all basic cost of production expected to comedown for Jeep Compass as compared to Tucson should be atleast 30%.
So a hyundai dealer sells a Tucson for let's say 20 lacs with their margin of 7-8%. Cost of acquisition for them would be roughly about 18.5 lacs.
18.5 being the basic cost of Tucson will make similarly equipped Jeep Compass to be in the price range of 14 lacs (for the dealer). Add the dealer margin of 8-9% (I'm sure FCA must've offered better margins to the dealers - hence the complete overhaul all across the country)
So a price range starting a few shades below 16 lacs doesn't seem a far fetched idea to me atleast.
OT : we all know most of the automobile companies keep a close eye our forums, and might consider deciding the price of their vehicles based on the basic sentiments here. So let's think before we type as we might make them commit a horrible mistake of pricing their products in the range where people would always want to buy their vehicles, but wouldn't buy them at the last moment.
FCA guys - if you are reading this - please do not price the vehicle where you would end up regretting it. I'm sure you might've seen lot of excitement here with your punto abarth and avventura abarth editions along with how people felt about the pricing, but I'm pretty sure your sales figures have shown you a different side altogether.
We sincerely hope you guys do well, but not at our cost. Price your upcoming products well, train your dealers to respect the current and prospective owners well and we all can assure you a new successful innings in the Indian market.
Cheers!!
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Originally Posted by prakash_ajp I am surprised people are saying Compass is similar in size to Creta. By that logic, so is Tucson. So, why is it priced so many lakhs more than Creta. |
Several reasons
1. Tucson is definitely much bigger than creta. And needless to say it has more features.
2. It has more imported components in it as compared to creta. Making it a bit more expensive to assemble/produce than the creta - all thanks to our tax structure.
3. Too close to the creta price and they would've had the cannibalism effect with their two vehicles which are supposed to be in different segments.
4. Any idea on the sales figures of creta vs Tucson?
The last point will make us all understand which segment is Jeep targeting the compass in. As far as I know they have an installed capacity of 5000 odd vehicles per month, with 50-60% for local sales while 40-50% will be for exports. Making a monthly average sales target of 2500+ vehicles.
Putting it right in the creta territory (with about half of its target, but still 2.5 times the sales figures of Tucson)