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Old 22nd November 2022, 09:06   #406
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Great package from Toyota. There are only very few good looking toyotas and this is one of them. Already a fan of Highlander and this looks great to me.
Surprisingly kerb weight was not mentioned anywhere IIRC.
Space, packaging and features looks great. Pricing in India will be a key point as they got a habit of making anything unaffordable. Tata Safari( FCA diesel+ Hyundai AT) +2 lakhs (Toyota premium) is the right price point for this petrol hybrid car, but toyota might place it at 19-32 lakhs ex.showroom religiously filling the gap between Hyryder and Fortuner.
Another thing is the pending deliveries of M&M at this segment, which is a great pool for already strong Toyota base. But also Toyota is already having a busy production schedule with Hyryder twins, so how much they could deliver is a question mark. If toyota also is going to just rake up the bookings then Tata or MG will benefit the most with the facelifts.
Best wishes for Toyota, I have no hopes on the premium charged maruti cousin, i will never consider it at this price point.
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Looks lovely but a lot of people will get hurt because of missing MT.
*Sigh* If only it were RWD.
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Specification sheet as released in Indonesia:

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Old 22nd November 2022, 10:23   #409
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Not a Toyota fan, but this is one more lottery ticket for Toyota, for the prices, it very likely they turning tables on us consumers from Kitna deti hai to kitne tak main de doge? Indian consumers will love it, no doubts of little cross shopping a level but at the end Toyota seem to have one more winner with them.

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*Sigh* If only it were RWD.
Offtopic. Looks like Toyota has some sort of averison to RWD nowadays. Even at their beige appliance image era, they had RWD cars atleast in the JDM market and other East/Southeast Asian markets. But now it is hard to find any. The TNGA-L platform seems to have worked out to be too expensive, as other than the Mirai and top end Lexuses they don't use the platform in any others. Even in BEVs, where many traditionally RWD averse manufacturers have started offering RWD models, Toyota's BEVs continue to be FWD/AWD.

Terribly offtopic I agree , since other than IMV platform, there is no other way a RWD platform would be used for a Toyota vehicle the price of the Innova. The Fortuner may jump to the TNGA-F platform, but not the Innova.
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Specifications look all good
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Except...
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Wow, MPV with some sporty bits. Does remind me of ford endeavour and should sell well. Expecting long waiting period and Toyota cash machines will ring loud. I doubt if they price it below 20L

Honestly I am tempted to swap my corolla as this would be a great tourer for me.
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Old 22nd November 2022, 11:22   #414
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Not sure if they needed the big gear stalk and that too in that position. They could have gone with normal design or omitted the gear stalk altogether. It could have been clean and would have provided space to keep other things.

Looks like they still wanted a MPV and not a minivan with its ground clearance and high stance.

People waiting for XUV700 will have a great alternative. Hope Toyota can produce enough of them. Eagerly waiting to test drive. Would make a great family vehicle.

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Old 22nd November 2022, 11:46   #415
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Sorry guys, little off-topic confusion. Help me with some clarity

Should a person who is waiting for XUV700 diesel delivery in 2023, change his decision and switch to something like this New Innova Hybrid, considering diesel cars are apparently going to have issues with BS6-II norms ?

And, even if someone gets his diesel car delivery post new Govt norms, what are the issues he/she might face (as we all know companies usually do not care about customer issues now a days) or is it just my assumption ?

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Should a person who is waiting for XUV700 diesel delivery in 2023, change his decision and switch to something like this New Innova Hybrid, considering diesel cars are apparently going to have issues with BS6-II norms ?

And, even if someone gets his diesel car delivery post new Govt norms, what are the issues he/she might face (as we all know companies usually do not care about customer issues now a days) or is it just my assumption ?

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My parents are in the same boat - I say just prebook the HYCROSS and get it. As it is an asset since Toyota will charge 5 lacs more 3-4 years down the line from its launch price for exact same car plus it is bound to have insane resale value like all Innovas. Pus since itís a Toyota it will be very reliable unlike Mahindras (My Thar ownership have taught me to love thy service centre associates), plus since itís a Hybrid you will get upwards of 20KMPL instead of 700ís 10-11 kmpl in-city economy and no BS6 issues either which plague every brand, Toyota included. This Innova seems to have all 700ís features plus some .
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Sorry guys, little off-topic confusion. Help me with some clarity

Should a person who is waiting for XUV700 diesel delivery in 2023, change his decision and switch to something like this New Innova Hybrid, considering diesel cars are apparently going to have issues with BS6-II norms ?

And, even if someone gets his diesel car delivery post new Govt norms, what are the issues he/she might face (as we all know companies usually do not care about customer issues now a days) or is it just my assumption ?

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I am sitting with XUV 7OO AX7L D AT AWD booking since Feb. 22 with tentative delivery scheduled around May 2023. I am surely switching my booking to top-end new Innova Hycross for sure. Hybrid compensates for the FE vs Diesel, High Ex-showroom price of Innova vs XUV 7OO will be compensated by lower maintainence of Hybrid vs Diesel plus better resale value of Innova.

Expecting Innova Hycross will be offering almost all features and comfort vis-a-vis XUV 7OO except AWD & ADAS. Though I love to have ADAS but can forego AWD. The car is meant for purely Highway commute. Expecting Delhi OTR under 38L for top-end.
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Old 22nd November 2022, 12:15   #418
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The major difference in its body stance is the fact that the D pillar has been given a good slope as compared to Innova Crysta giving it a SUV stance more than minivan stance from the side and rear profile.

One of the biggest selling points of Innova is the ample / realistic 3rd row seating along with a usable boot space unlike other 7 seaters.

But how the profile change will affect the head room of the 3rd row (I assume leg room wont get curbed given that the body length is going to be approx. same), and affect the boot space will be interesting to watch.
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Old 22nd November 2022, 12:33   #419
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This is an MUV in a SUVs clothing, a good looking one at that.

And with this, Innova complete it’s journey from a utilitarian rural van (it is, in most most non-Indian markets) to a more refined and plush suburban van. Quite an upgrade at all levels.

Now Toyota just needs to price it right, wishful thinking I know.
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Finally, sunroof! Yay!

Really a good people mover and the design is quite neutral as well - no crazy design elements and will appeal to the masses. As someone mentioned ahead, Toyotas are appreciating assets and if there is a launch price that's lower, people should go for it.

The folks at Skoda (and to an extent, Jeep) have cause to be worried. Except for the 4x4, this has everything going for it in comparative specs. And then it's a Toyota. If Toyota prices this within 10-15% range of the above, both models will have a serious hit.

If Toyota decides to kill the competition from Mahindra, they can start as low as 18L and some folks could potentially stretch towards that as well. But I don't see that happening as they would want this to be filling the gap between the Crysta and the Fortuner.

What a brilliant marketing department in Toyota. They raise the base prices but keep the gap between vehicles to fit new ones which they can normalize after the initial days. And then increase the price for the new model and then introduce yet another one in between. Fantastic work!
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