Is Swift Build quality so poor... ??

Surprise · 10th February 2006, 21:37

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Originally Posted by anarchist

The door panels and the boot inner panels are actually the problem areas. The shocks are too noisy and hard, u get a distinct thump even when you hit a small pothole. geesh and they claim these are rally shocks, I can bet my soul, the Swift shocks wont last one kilometer in rally conditions.

If Iam not wrong you did some mods on your wheels right, Is that the culprit?. I dont face any problems with Shocks. I drive on one of the worst roads in Chennai (I meant it).

Got back my car from third service & absolutely free of any rattling. Let me hope it does not surface again.

Also this central locking / power windows issues are fixed at the first shot itself & it neven happened again. I hope Maruti get it right in their first attempt & this doesnt resurface for any of Swift owners.

amit · 10th February 2006, 21:37

When I read that these problems were reported by OD, my first reaction was here comes another biased report but looks like OD was right as many owners are reporting the same problems. It's obvious from now that build quality is inconsistant and even some electricals are problem areas.

I don't agree with the rattling part. My Palio was driven for almost 1.5 yrs and 25,000kms and it still had no rattles from anywhere. And Fiat is blamed for inconsistant quality and niggling problems!

Isn't it ironic that Swift sales are still high even after so many niggling problems? It will be interesting to see how Swift performs in the J.D.Power survey's.

WagonR_tc · 10th February 2006, 22:24

ya dude this is true even i have many problem with my vxi. my car has done 10ks n i have problem with power windows,ac vent,dashbroad nosic etc .i dint expect this from maruti.

SLK · 10th February 2006, 23:00

This is very sad - so many rattle issues....
My wagonR is rattle free, when its nearing 60k kms!... (coz i take care of rattles the day they appear)

Mpower · 10th February 2006, 23:53

Usually cars will have issues during the 1st year of production. A lot of people wait for a while before buying an all new car. Notice how the engine is trouble free since its a carryover from teh Esteem.

thief · 11th February 2006, 00:26

hey guys brought a new m800 crossed 3500km but no noise no problems at the start there was only a bit noise on the right side door but got it fixed not it is running like a sweet baby

humyum · 11th February 2006, 00:29

yeah ..there should be no rattling from the car in the first 10k to 15k atleast..my 800 is 8 years old..60000 km up..and there is no rattling sound from anywhere in the car(no Jokes) ..beat that...

nitrous · 11th February 2006, 01:19

21000 bookings in the first month of launch.
What do u expect?? Logically, there would be quality issues for Maruti ,just to make Supply = demand.

If they had been quality conscious, they would have lost atleast 5000 bookings to the Getz.

Now, atleast the customers are with them and just have few fixable rattles/niggles. No big deal!!

thief · 11th February 2006, 01:51

I THINK UR right actually they should have taken care of such little tings if they want the car to do good in the long run but nowdays everybody wants to earn actually there should a certain levels of standerds set for the car production i mean there should be some checkings on the manufacturer and the product quality on a large scale and there should be some awakening in the people who want to buy cars for a long run should check on that basis and lastly people should visit our forums if they want a piece of advice wat say guys i think a lot of people get bennifted with the help of or site that makes me say.......
team-bhp rocks...............................ssssssssssssss ss

GRAY · 11th February 2006, 03:15

Done 2500 kms in my swift VXI no problems with Power windows ,Central locking ,interior rattles . only problem was i did not know how to switch on behind tail light (fog light) .now i know .
1 - 60 kms
2 - 100 kms
3 - 130 kms
4 - 160 kms
5 - no road some other day .

highpriest · 11th February 2006, 14:47

Done close to 6K in my Swift Vxi. No problems so far with rattling of any sort.

Power Windows - No problems
Central Locking - No problems
Horn - Minor issue, fixed by Vitesse.
Minor scratches & dents - Fixed. Awesome job by Vitesse.
Gear Shift - Minor issue with 1st and reverse gear [stubborn sometimes]. Fixed during last service.

Current Problems: Front Left speaker has gone mute. Gotta check it out.

Other than these, the car has been completely error and rattle free.

Cheers
Harish

veyron1 · 11th February 2006, 16:12

well first, the rattles do exist. but i'm a little finicky, and i find rattles in the oddest of places. like RX pointed out, rattles exist in almost every car. you might not feel them as a passenger, but as a driver, you tend to notice those li'l squeaks; you might find this odd, but i found the doors of a brand new RS squeaking...and another 1.9 tdi too. heck, the only (new) car that i couldn't find any rattles on was the endeavour. rest all, from the lancer to the octy to the accent, i have found minor squeaks and rattles....but then, these things vary from car to car.

as for the swift, well, yes, there ARE minor squeaks, from my 4800 km old ZXi. no mechanical or component reliability issues. the car behaves like a sportster, and that sweet chassis is a dream to handle-can get a little finicky over high-speed mid-corner bumps, though. over my usual usage, which mostly covers bad roads or highways, the car has aged fine (except for the rattles, though). no complaints regarding the performance either. it's not QUICK, per se, but fast enough. manages 160+ on normal stretches, and i see the 180 mark quite often. winds affect the speeds drastically though; which reminds me- the wind noise over 140-160 kmph seems quite high, even though the cabin seems to be well-insulated.

all in all, the swift has been a very nice set of wheels for me. just wish the build quality was better, though. and that 1.6 twin cam from the expo...

ballkey · 12th February 2006, 11:14

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Originally Posted by veyron1

well first, the rattles do exist. but i'm a little finicky, and i find rattles in the oddest of places. like RX pointed out, rattles exist in almost every car. you might not feel them as a passenger, but as a driver, you tend to notice those li'l squeaks; you might find this odd, but i found the doors of a brand new RS squeaking...and another 1.9 tdi too. heck, the only (new) car that i couldn't find any rattles on was the endeavour. rest all, from the lancer to the octy to the accent, i have found minor squeaks and rattles....but then, these things vary from car to car.

as for the swift, well, yes, there ARE minor squeaks, from my 4800 km old ZXi. no mechanical or component reliability issues. the car behaves like a sportster, and that sweet chassis is a dream to handle-can get a little finicky over high-speed mid-corner bumps, though. over my usual usage, which mostly covers bad roads or highways, the car has aged fine (except for the rattles, though). no complaints regarding the performance either. it's not QUICK, per se, but fast enough. manages 160+ on normal stretches, and i see the 180 mark quite often. winds affect the speeds drastically though; which reminds me- the wind noise over 140-160 kmph seems quite high, even though the cabin seems to be well-insulated.

all in all, the swift has been a very nice set of wheels for me. just wish the build quality was better, though. and that 1.6 twin cam from the expo...

180 on a Swift ? WOW. Do you have some mods on your car? I have a Vxi, I hardly go above 120 - the noise is just booming. Maybe I'm just inexperienced, but I find the noise too loud for my liking.

Coming back on topic, my troubles were limited to an incessant squeak from the rear seat, which was fixed in 1st service. There are a few more noises, but I put them down to the lousy roads of Chennai.

zenx · 12th February 2006, 19:27

hmmm, so Maruti and Tata seem to have started to trade places

narasimha raju · 13th February 2006, 00:37

Seems like rattles are common on brand new Swifts. I don't expect a brand new car develop rattles till it completes 20k on odo. It is definetly bad quality check of Maruti.

10th February 2006, 21:37	#32
amit Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 3,712 Thanked: 451 Times	When I read that these problems were reported by OD, my first reaction was here comes another biased report but looks like OD was right as many owners are reporting the same problems. It's obvious from now that build quality is inconsistant and even some electricals are problem areas. I don't agree with the rattling part. My Palio was driven for almost 1.5 yrs and 25,000kms and it still had no rattles from anywhere. And Fiat is blamed for inconsistant quality and niggling problems! Isn't it ironic that Swift sales are still high even after so many niggling problems? It will be interesting to see how Swift performs in the J.D.Power survey's.
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10th February 2006, 22:24	#33
WagonR_tc Newbie Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: mumb@i Posts: 9 Thanked: 0 Times	ya dude this is true even i have many problem with my vxi. my car has done 10ks n i have problem with power windows,ac vent,dashbroad nosic etc .i dint expect this from maruti.
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10th February 2006, 23:00	#34
SLK Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 1,812 Thanked: 1,431 Times	This is very sad - so many rattle issues.... My wagonR is rattle free, when its nearing 60k kms!... (coz i take care of rattles the day they appear)
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10th February 2006, 23:53	#35
Mpower Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 10,397 Thanked: 1,735 Times View My Garage	Usually cars will have issues during the 1st year of production. A lot of people wait for a while before buying an all new car. Notice how the engine is trouble free since its a carryover from teh Esteem.
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11th February 2006, 00:26	#36
thief BANNED Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: MUMBAI Posts: 91 Thanked: 0 Times	hey guys brought a new m800 crossed 3500km but no noise no problems at the start there was only a bit noise on the right side door but got it fixed not it is running like a sweet baby
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11th February 2006, 00:29	#37
humyum Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2,834 Thanked: 5,884 Times	yeah ..there should be no rattling from the car in the first 10k to 15k atleast..my 800 is 8 years old..60000 km up..and there is no rattling sound from anywhere in the car(no Jokes) ..beat that...
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11th February 2006, 01:19	#38
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,964 Thanked: 333 Times View My Garage	21000 bookings in the first month of launch. What do u expect?? Logically, there would be quality issues for Maruti ,just to make Supply = demand. If they had been quality conscious, they would have lost atleast 5000 bookings to the Getz. Now, atleast the customers are with them and just have few fixable rattles/niggles. No big deal!!
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11th February 2006, 01:51	#39
thief BANNED Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: MUMBAI Posts: 91 Thanked: 0 Times	I THINK UR right actually they should have taken care of such little tings if they want the car to do good in the long run but nowdays everybody wants to earn actually there should a certain levels of standerds set for the car production i mean there should be some checkings on the manufacturer and the product quality on a large scale and there should be some awakening in the people who want to buy cars for a long run should check on that basis and lastly people should visit our forums if they want a piece of advice wat say guys i think a lot of people get bennifted with the help of or site that makes me say....... team-bhp rocks...............................ssssssssssssss ss
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11th February 2006, 03:15	#40
GRAY Newbie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 4 Thanked: 0 Times	Done 2500 kms in my swift VXI no problems with Power windows ,Central locking ,interior rattles . only problem was i did not know how to switch on behind tail light (fog light) .now i know . 1 - 60 kms 2 - 100 kms 3 - 130 kms 4 - 160 kms 5 - no road some other day .
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11th February 2006, 14:47	#41
highpriest BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Winchester Posts: 42 Thanked: 2 Times	Done close to 6K in my Swift Vxi. No problems so far with rattling of any sort. Power Windows - No problems Central Locking - No problems Horn - Minor issue, fixed by Vitesse. Minor scratches & dents - Fixed. Awesome job by Vitesse. Gear Shift - Minor issue with 1st and reverse gear [stubborn sometimes]. Fixed during last service. Current Problems: Front Left speaker has gone mute. Gotta check it out. Other than these, the car has been completely error and rattle free. Cheers Harish
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11th February 2006, 16:12	#42
veyron1 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,424 Thanked: 54 Times View My Garage	well first, the rattles do exist. but i'm a little finicky, and i find rattles in the oddest of places. like RX pointed out, rattles exist in almost every car. you might not feel them as a passenger, but as a driver, you tend to notice those li'l squeaks; you might find this odd, but i found the doors of a brand new RS squeaking...and another 1.9 tdi too. heck, the only (new) car that i couldn't find any rattles on was the endeavour. rest all, from the lancer to the octy to the accent, i have found minor squeaks and rattles....but then, these things vary from car to car. as for the swift, well, yes, there ARE minor squeaks, from my 4800 km old ZXi. no mechanical or component reliability issues. the car behaves like a sportster, and that sweet chassis is a dream to handle-can get a little finicky over high-speed mid-corner bumps, though. over my usual usage, which mostly covers bad roads or highways, the car has aged fine (except for the rattles, though). no complaints regarding the performance either. it's not QUICK, per se, but fast enough. manages 160+ on normal stretches, and i see the 180 mark quite often. winds affect the speeds drastically though; which reminds me- the wind noise over 140-160 kmph seems quite high, even though the cabin seems to be well-insulated. all in all, the swift has been a very nice set of wheels for me. just wish the build quality was better, though. and that 1.6 twin cam from the expo...
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12th February 2006, 19:27	#44
zenx Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,164 Thanked: 162 Times View My Garage	hmmm, so Maruti and Tata seem to have started to trade places
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13th February 2006, 00:37	#45
narasimha raju BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 128 Thanked: 55 Times	Seems like rattles are common on brand new Swifts. I don't expect a brand new car develop rattles till it completes 20k on odo. It is definetly bad quality check of Maruti.
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