Does Maruti Swift really deserve this much HYPE ?

8th July 2005, 16:02

okay,everyone i think we are forgetting that Maruti has finally given us a car that has dynamics,ride ,handling build quality,,and design straight from 2005,instead of redesigning old Suzuki designs that had long since phased out in developed countries,in fact Rumour has it that Mr Osamu Suzuki san,,was so embarrased when he heard from the engineers who came down for the swift launch,,that Maruti had redesigned the 800 AGAIN and despecced it,to meet a new price point

LandCruiser · 8th July 2005, 16:04

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Originally Posted by camry93

. There's a seat, my in-laws can manage to sit on it.

In-laws might! How about parents?
But as you say VFM products do sell. Like even the Versa!
My guess is that 6 months down the line the excitement about the Swift would be gone and it will not sell like hotcakes for sure. People will get to appreciate Getz or any other new hatch that appears in taht segment if not for VFM but for the positives that they offer over Swift.

Conan · 8th July 2005, 16:07

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Originally Posted by LandCruiser

People will get to appreciate Getz

Dream on buddy dream on....

Surprise · 8th July 2005, 16:09

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Originally Posted by camry93

and backing them up with very good A.S.S

My rear back door got jammed for no reasons. One fine day, I found that I could not open the rear door even manually. The problem was first reported to Autocap. They said that they got nothing to do with the problem as the original specs itself comes with Central locking (Swift VXI version)

Since the vehicle clocked 1000 kms, I thought to get this right during the first service. Left the vehicle for first service with the dealer. Got a call from Maruti engineer saying that this needs to be attended by Autocap guys. I detailed the whole the conversation, I had with Autocap on the problem. Maruti guys stick to what they had said.

Got back the vehicle after the first service & called back the Autocap guys. A service engineer from Autocap inspected the car and said this needs to be resolved by the manufacturer. GOT FRUSTRATED.

I made both Autocap and Maruti engineer to discuss on this to come to a conclusion, who's problem it was. Finally the Maruti guy asked to bring back the vehicle to the showroom. I checked with him on the possibilities of attending the problem at my place and got a big "NO" from the other end.

Ok. I made my mind & asked the Maruti guys to pick the car from my place. They said if I want Maruti team to pick and drop the car back after rectifying the problem, it could be done only after a week’s time as all of them are already engaged.

I decided not to prolong the issue and leave the car in the showroom on my own.

This is my first car and Maruti is the first vendor whom Iam dealing with (though I take care of all the cars in my office, this is my own vehicle), Iam not happy.

I may be wrong, but I don't agree that Maruti is the best in after sales support. I felt Hyundai, Ford and Honda are better than Maruti. This is purely based on my experience with these manufacturers. I really don't understand how Maruti holds the crown for best after sales and support (may be because of their low recurring cost?)

camry93 · 8th July 2005, 16:14

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Originally Posted by LandCruiser

In-laws might! How about parents?
But as you say VFM products do sell. Like even the Versa!
My guess is that 6 months down the line the excitement about the Swift would be gone and it will not sell like hotcakes for sure. People will get to appreciate Getz or any other new hatch that appears in taht segment if not for VFM but for the positives that they offer over Swift.

Er, um, what about the Getz? Its a good car, nothing spectacular. Looks more like the Santro Xing so doesn't have the exclusivity. And not powerful enough to set the road on fire. Swift is selling because its a niche product. Its different from what Maruti has been selling thus far. Coupled with Maruti's reliability.

Surprise · 8th July 2005, 16:21

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Originally Posted by LandCruiser

People will get to appreciate Getz or any other new hatch that appears in taht segment if not for VFM but for the positives that they offer over Swift.

Price is the essence here. People could manage with the quality of Swift for the price it was offered. Iam not an expert in this field, just came to know that there are some quality compromises on being a member in the forum or else I could not find this out.

Getz will die in the market (Is it alive now?), if the prices remain same for both GETZ and SWIFT. I personally hate the plastics in dashboard in GETZ. For me it looks very ugly i.e the finish of the dashboard. Even in the looks, Swift scores than Getz. A common man would vote for Swift than Getz for its looks.

Steeroid · 8th July 2005, 16:27

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Originally Posted by camry93

And not powerful enough to set the road on fire.

And you can set the road on fire with about 3-4 bhp more?

Steeroid · 8th July 2005, 16:30

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Originally Posted by Surprise

Getz will die in the market (Is it alive now?)

I think its been selling slightly higher numbers than it has been over the last few months. Hyundai's Swift vs Santro comparisons have ensured that the Getz is insulated from a Swift attack...

LandCruiser · 8th July 2005, 16:37

Maruti will sell more numbers than Getz but not in a huge margin. They cant get rid of Getz or any other i think.

camry93 · 8th July 2005, 16:40

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Originally Posted by Steeroid

And you can set the road on fire with about 3-4 bhp more?

No, I can't. Thats precisely the point. The Getz does not have any real distinction over the Swift. So it won't sell on technical merit.

tabrez02 · 8th July 2005, 16:55

Swift is Swift, and Getz can newer come close to its concept design, more over the popularity of the swift can be heard, seen, and still strong. last when i heard it was around 25000+ bookings. One important thing is the swift is value for the money. And the value is ok for such interiors and quality.

praveen_n77 · 8th July 2005, 18:10

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Originally Posted by LandCruiser

In-laws might! How about parents?
But as you say VFM products do sell. Like even the Versa!
My guess is that 6 months down the line the excitement about the Swift would be gone and it will not sell like hotcakes for sure. People will get to appreciate Getz or any other new hatch that appears in taht segment if not for VFM but for the positives that they offer over Swift.

Appreciation to GETZ?? I wonder in what way.. Swifts engine remains one of the best in its class.Its not a 15 yr old engine.It came to india only in 2000 with esteem.(The one in swift is a slightly modified one).Getz engine is a stripped down version of accent gvs (1.5 changed to 1.3 l) and it is still 12 v whereas the swift is 16v.You need to compare a vehicle with what the competiotion offers.The engine offered by most car manufacturers in India is not the same as what they offer internatinally ...then why be maruti any different?

xezas · 8th July 2005, 20:01

When the Getz came out, I for one was appalled at the ugly posterior but over time I have actually come to admire it's presence. Saw it parked next to a NHC and honestly, the interiors seemed almost identical in proportions.

On the other hand, the Swift's "new looks" is already irritating me nowadays after the initial hoopla. No offence meant, but frankly, it reminds me of Cinderella's pumpkin in one of the cartoons/movies.

Basically, there are 2 kinds of ppl: those who need constant appreciation and approval of their peers and those who dont'. I guess people choosing the above cars will have a facet of their personality revealed to them in the process

Surprise · 8th July 2005, 20:40

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Originally Posted by xezas

On the other hand, the Swift's "new looks" is already irritating me nowadays after the initial hoopla.

Why do you get irritated with something with which we are no way related. Liking and disliking is agreed, but what is the need to get irritated because of the design.

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Basically, there are 2 kinds of ppl: those who need constant appreciation and approval of their peers and those who dont'. I guess people choosing the above cars will have a facet of their personality revealed to them in the process

I am not able to get this point

v1p3r · 8th July 2005, 20:45

@ praveen...the g15b engine is atleast 15 yrs old internationally. first with 2v per cyl, then upgraded in the mid 90s to 4v per cyl. that's basically a head change. the block has been the SAME for 15 years, buddy.

all this talk of 12v vs 16v is crap. do you know that the mercedes sl55 amg and sl65 amg both have only 3v per cylinder? infact, so do all the petrol mercs in india! do bmw use this in their ads as a counterpoint? this is the sort of crappy advertising aimed at unknowledgeable customers that irritates people who know better.

btw, im not going to bandy figures about, but i drove both cars when they were fresh out on the first day of launch, and i can honestly say i prefer the getz, as a driving experience. the swift, on the other hand, will still be the one i buy, because it is a better vfm proposition, and there are more mod options.

ps. i hate the pumpkin ass too! esp in the demo car colour! real kaddu!

8th July 2005, 16:02	#46
snoopy41 Posts: n/a	okay,everyone i think we are forgetting that Maruti has finally given us a car that has dynamics,ride ,handling build quality,,and design straight from 2005,instead of redesigning old Suzuki designs that had long since phased out in developed countries,in fact Rumour has it that Mr Osamu Suzuki san,,was so embarrased when he heard from the engineers who came down for the swift launch,,that Maruti had redesigned the 800 AGAIN and despecced it,to meet a new price point
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8th July 2005, 16:37	#54
LandCruiser BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chennai Posts: 711 Thanked: 51 Times View My Garage	Maruti will sell more numbers than Getz but not in a huge margin. They cant get rid of Getz or any other i think.
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8th July 2005, 16:55	#56
tabrez02 BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 286 Thanked: 6 Times View My Garage	Swift is Swift, and Getz can newer come close to its concept design, more over the popularity of the swift can be heard, seen, and still strong. last when i heard it was around 25000+ bookings. One important thing is the swift is value for the money. And the value is ok for such interiors and quality.
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8th July 2005, 20:01	#58
xezas BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bangalore/Chicago Posts: 39 Thanked: 0 Times	When the Getz came out, I for one was appalled at the ugly posterior but over time I have actually come to admire it's presence. Saw it parked next to a NHC and honestly, the interiors seemed almost identical in proportions. On the other hand, the Swift's "new looks" is already irritating me nowadays after the initial hoopla. No offence meant, but frankly, it reminds me of Cinderella's pumpkin in one of the cartoons/movies. Basically, there are 2 kinds of ppl: those who need constant appreciation and approval of their peers and those who dont'. I guess people choosing the above cars will have a facet of their personality revealed to them in the process
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8th July 2005, 20:45	#60
v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR / DXB / LON Posts: 5,365 Thanked: 7,506 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (7)	@ praveen...the g15b engine is atleast 15 yrs old internationally. first with 2v per cyl, then upgraded in the mid 90s to 4v per cyl. that's basically a head change. the block has been the SAME for 15 years, buddy. all this talk of 12v vs 16v is crap. do you know that the mercedes sl55 amg and sl65 amg both have only 3v per cylinder? infact, so do all the petrol mercs in india! do bmw use this in their ads as a counterpoint? this is the sort of crappy advertising aimed at unknowledgeable customers that irritates people who know better. btw, im not going to bandy figures about, but i drove both cars when they were fresh out on the first day of launch, and i can honestly say i prefer the getz, as a driving experience. the swift, on the other hand, will still be the one i buy, because it is a better vfm proposition, and there are more mod options. ps. i hate the pumpkin ass too! esp in the demo car colour! real kaddu! Last edited by v1p3r : 8th July 2005 at 20:47.
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