[suhaas307]

Originally Posted by RavenAvi

The killer pricing of the Jazz facelift can now make us safely assume that Brio will come in the 4L - 5L bracket, or maybe a slight notch below.

which will bring it bang into the i10, Beat, Wagon R, etc. territory.

Exactly.

Honda has left us a huge clue here.

A clue on how the Brio might be priced. Now that the Jazz is available at 5.5 ex-showroom, Honda will have to introduce the Brio in the 3-5 lakh bracket. Now a Honda at that price will be an absolute deal-breaker.

If they do kit it well enough, the i10's success will be shortened a bit, I presume. The Beat will be hit too, and not only the Jazz, but also the Brio would take some customers away from Toyota showrooms across the country.

[Guna]

Originally Posted by tachobells

IMO, AT is unlikely. Jazz is not having it. So, it's unlikely that they'll bring AT in the cheaper Brio.

Jazz At comes with 1.4 L abroad (they will not assemble a new engine for a negligible AT market). Brio CVT comes with the same 1.2 L. Launching Brio At should be simpler.

[ani_meher]

I think it will be difficult as well as not worth for Brio to break down the 4L barrier. Honda cars are usually equipped with all the safety equipments through all the variants, and there is no way a ABS+airbags vehicle can cost under 4L. I think even humble spark barely manages to do so. Also, WagonR is not really in comparison of Brio because of 1L engine vs 1.2L engine. I think the prices will be starting around 4.25-4.5L.

[suhaas307]

Originally Posted by ani_meher

I think it will be difficult as well as not worth for Brio to break down the 4L barrier. Honda cars are usually equipped with all the safety equipments through all the variants, and there is no way a ABS+airbags vehicle can cost under 4L. I think even humble spark barely manages to do so. Also, WagonR is not really in comparison of Brio because of 1L engine vs 1.2L engine. I think the prices will be starting around 4.25-4.5L.

I don't see why it shouldn't.

In other developed auto-markets, it's mandatory for all cars to come with basic safety features like ABS and airbags, across the variants of that particular car.

In India, however, it's usually the top-of-the-line variant that gets airbags and ABS. Heck, on some it's optional!

So I believe that Honda should set an example to the other companies operating in India by introducing the base Brio with safety features that would deem it fit on foreign soil.

[karty_83]

Originally Posted by suhaas307

A clue on how the Brio might be priced. Now that the Jazz is available at 5.5 ex-showroom, Honda will have to introduce the Brio in the 3-5 lakh bracket. Now a Honda at that price will be an absolute deal-breaker.

If they do kit it well enough, the i10's success will be shortened a bit, I presume.

+1. Brio if priced well will definitely shake the i10 market. It ll be interesting to see how Hyundai goes about with i10 and i20 in the next couple of months.

[pgsagar]

Originally Posted by karty_83

+1. Brio if priced well will definitely shake the i10 market. It ll be interesting to see how Hyundai goes about with i10 and i20 in the next couple of months.

Yes, I feel same way too. Looks like Brio and new Jazz are out to strike a blow to i10 and i20 respectively. If the cars are evenly matched on pirce front then Hyundai badge is just no match for Honda badge.

[Equus]

I must say the new Jazz prices knocked my estimates big time.. I was betting 5.99 till 6.99L and thought the base variant would be without airbags/ABS. But this coup by Honda is unbelievable - am yet to come to terms with it to be honest! Get ready for more dealerships and snob dilution but thats perfectly OK

I am brave enough to put a bet on Brio prices. I would say 4.25L base prices with POWER STEERING (shame on you, Liva).. 4.5L with ABS/Airbags and top end at 4.99L. My range is 4.25 till 4.99L

[Guna]

Originally Posted by Equus

I am brave enough to put a bet on Brio prices. I would say 4.25L base prices with POWER STEERING (shame on you, Liva).. 4.5L with ABS/Airbags and top end at 4.99L. My range is 4.25 till 4.99L

I think all variants will come with ABS/Airbags as it seems to be Honda's policy/philology to make/sell cars with basic safety.

[vb-saan]

Trivial, but just noticed! Honda India's website already has the Brio listed in the header

[mdsaab]

Originally Posted by vb-san

Trivial, but just noticed! Honda India's website already has the Brio listed in the header

You bet, Honda is really serious now. They are moving ahead at a brisk pace, and on a mission to take the market by storm.
You can even see interior and exterior pics, with a few details of the Brio too on the Indian website.

[amrisharm]

Hi guys, looks like honda has a good product on its hands, though the rear of the car is not appealing what so ever to me (personal opinion). The interiors also look great and I noticed one thing while looking closely at the interior pics:

1) There is no heater in the car.
2) No option to direct the air to the windscreen.

See picture below(Pictures courtesy the internet where there are many of them around):


I was admiring the pictures of the interiors and then noticed there were no vents opening towards the windscreen like on other cars.



Then I took a closer look and noticed that the vent knob only has to options, direct the air to the upper vents and the 2nd option to direct the air to the upper vents and the foot area. What are owners supposed to do when the windscreen fogs up during monsoons and in winter? As a potential customer i was quite disappointed.


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[sgiitk]

@amrisharm; I hope you are wrong on both counts.

1. Heater: as you switch to warmer temperature the heater comes into play. There need not be a separate heater switch.

2. Vents: Look carefully, There is a significant gap between the glass and the top of the dash. expect air vents in between the two. Only the two way switch more circulation appears to be a bit against this.

Also, what market are the pics from? I see an AT shifter which seems to indicate that the car is not an India specific version. The interior are the first part to be customised under the 'horses for courses' theory.

[amrisharm]

Originally Posted by sgiitk

@amrisharm; I hope you are wrong on both counts.

1. Heater: as you switch to warmer temperature the heater comes into play. There need not be a separate heater switch.

2. Vents: Look carefully, There is a significant gap between the glass and the top of the dash. expect air vents in between the two. Only the two way switch more circulation appears to be a bit against this.

Also, what market are the pics from? I see an AT shifter which seems to indicate that the car is not an India specific version. The interior are the first part to be customised under the 'horses for courses' theory.

Note to mods here is the link I got the picture from:
2011 Honda Brio City Car | Best Car Collections

I do hope you are right on both accounts. And I guess the pictures are from Thailand, but not very sure.The Thailand spec sheet mentions only air conditioning with no mention of Climate control or heater anywhere. Has anybody got any concrete information with regards to these 2 queries?

[karty_83]

Originally Posted by amrisharm

I do hope you are right on both accounts. And I guess the pictures are from Thailand

It's got more to do with the angle of the picture i guess. I am sure they would have made a provision for defogging the windshield.
Talking about air con vents, i am rather unhappy with their positioning on the dash , especially with the ones on the left hand side.

[Dry Ice]

Just checked the Brio on Honda site. Though they proclaim it to be a 'prototype', I wonder if they are planning to bring in an AT too. Would be awesome!

About the defogger, indeed there is no option to direct the airflow to the windscreen! Just 2 settings - to direct the air to a)face only b) face and feet.