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I personally would be cautious about taking any car upto 140 on a highway - let alone some third party's car that I am trying out to buy. One dog crossing the road in the wrong place, one speedbreaker that's extra high and has all its paint flaked off and I'd probably end up buying something I'd have to scrap soon afterwards. Call me chicken if you wish but well - certainly not going to do that in a car that I have no previous experience with and no knowledge of how it has been driven and maintained. Last edited by hserus : 5th August 2016 at 13:57. | |
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BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Pune
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| ![]() 40 kmph on a rough road is not as bad as it sounds. Note I said rough roads, not offroading or a pothole filled road. Actually any road in Pune in todays rains will qualify as a rough road. Also a high speed run (upto whatever speed the traffic, road and law will allow) reveals a lot of mannerisms of the car. E.g. if a serious buyer takes my car above 100 on the mumbai pune expressway, I dont mind it. |
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![]() I had once a funny turned annoying incident with a prospective buyer of my WagonR. After that, I turned down many buyers just by seeing their background. I got a call from person A that he was interested in the car and wanted to negotiate price. I told him to take a look at the car in person, feel it and then negotiate. Since he worked close to my workplace, he told he would come immediately. Then I agreed. Dude A turned up with another dude B and we met. B started asking details and stuff and I told him everything. A was prompting B to ask something, check this, check that and so on. It was funny. Then B wanted to drive the car. I agreed and sat in the front passenger seat while A sat at the back. A started asking lame questions A: Why did you not buy Zxi? Me: Boss there is no Zxi available. A: Power windows are factory fitted? Me: yes(duh, check variant) A to B: Bhai, clutch check karo, Steering check karo, Pickup hein na? As B started driving, it was annoying. First I had to order him to put the seatbelt on. Next, he entered the main road as if he had all right of way. By now, A had become really annoying from the back seat. I asked who was the actual buyer. Then he told that it was A but A did not know driving, but everything else ![]() And the actual thing started there. B revved the car to the redline and I was ok with it. But then, in a road with traffic, he slammed the brakes hard and nearly stopped the car. This blew my fuse. I told him to pull over and repeated the request. Once he pulled over, I told them to get off the car and I would drive back as I wasnt happy. After reaching my office, I got down and told that they can leave. A still has the nuts to tell 'I will send another agency to certify the car before I buy'. I just broke the whole deal there and told that I am not interested to sell it to him and drove into the office. From that day, I never readily offered the keys unless I was sure of the person who was driving. Finally, I sold the car to a person who had a really well maintained car. Only after getting to know about this I was sure that he would drive my car equally well. And yes, I got the price I asked for too instead of vague negotiations from self proclaimed experts. | |
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A more reliable way is to buy a car that has a complete service history, so you know what the car has gone through. | |
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BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Pune
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| ![]() Hey I guess I have stirred up a lot of passion here! The other way to check if a car is in good shape is to arrive at a judgement regarding the owner. Is he a careful and meticulous person? Does he answer questions precisely? Does he proudly point out little known features of the car? Does he mention how he has gone out of the way to take care of the car? Is he a gentle driver or a rash one? Ask him about any road trips with the car and what top speeds he has achieved with it. A person who drives gently will mention that his personal limits are much lower than the car, while a person who drives rashly will boast of top speeds which are very high. This way you are judging how the person has used the car, not just the car in an as it is condition. But this is much harder and requires a little bit of intuition about the seller. I prefer to use this method, because it reveals how the car might have been maintained. |
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1. No test drive to newbies or first time car owners 2. Long chat to get to know driving experience, what is being currently driven, from how long the person has been driving 3. If possible check condition of the previous car - One dentist came to check my car in his bolero and that car was in superb shape. I gave him the key to my car and did not even accompany him. And he gave his car keys before I gave mine. 4. Mechanics get to drive yes, but depending upon how knowledgeable he is and his attitude - No to arrogant people. Service history is kind of reliable as a first proof, but not always trustable when it comes to cars with good amount of age and mileage. My car was just 35k kms done in three years and I could easily justify that with bills having a linear Odo reading. Not always the same case. | |
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The Cedia is not a terribly good buy because of the parts and maintenance shortage issue. But if you say there are likely faults which only become sure to reproduce when you push the vehicle to its limits, I am sorry but that's too much of a risk in some other guy's car that I have never driven before. | |
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BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: mumbai
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| ![]() Thanks KK and Abeer for your pointers. (Some how I can not multi quote your replies) Reason to consider Cedia is because of those OZ Alloys and MOMO Steering wheel which makes me Drool every time i see them either on team BHP or in any Ad and 2.0 V/S 1.8 of Civic. I miss that acceleration/punch of my old Baleno in my SX4 hence short listed these two. But as rightly said by both of you Cedia is hard to find as compared to Civic. But Civic post 2010 would be a better bet. Which one would be heavier on pocket to maintain Cedia or Civic any pointers as both cars are premium ones and have heard hondas are heavy on pocket unlike toyota. Will see if i can schedule a test drive on this weekend as its raining here in mumbai, will update once i decide on either of these. Last edited by sankdeshmukh : 6th August 2016 at 01:51. Reason: adding a line |
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BHPian Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: New Delhi
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| ![]() Guys m extremely sad about about the resale value of my 1.5 year old tata zest petrol which has been immaculately maintained. Due to sudden shift in usage patterns over the last year, need to shift to a diesel but the dealers are really low balling on the price. Their quotes feel like a punch in gut with them quoting just 20% to 40% of invoice price. Have tried used car dealers and online services such as cars 24 as well but with horrendous quotes. The standard rant is about how unrealistically unreliable (even from the mouth OF VW dealer) they are with one one going as far to say that he saw 5 burnt tata car on the same stretch of road where I never saw even a single one. ![]() Have driven over 40,000 kms in past 10 months and it still drives like a dream, without even a single hiccup. Please tell me what shall be done. Financial situation is such that I can't keep two cars at home. Last edited by fuelinmyveins : 6th August 2016 at 05:12. |
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Given all you said and the extremely low resale value you are being quoted - go ahead and keep / use the Zest if it has proved reliable for you. There isn't as much of a disparity in petrol vs diesel prices these days compared to earlier, and any savings on fuel would be wiped out by the loss on the extremely low resale value. | |
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BTW 40k kms in 1.5 years on a petrol car is quite a running. Looks like you had some fun with this car. | |
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BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: mumbai
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| ![]() Due to sudden shift in usage patterns over the last year, need to shift to a diesel but the dealers are really low balling on the price. Have driven over 40,000 kms in past 10 months and it still drives like a dream, without even a single hiccup. Please tell me what shall be done. Financial situation is such that I can't keep two cars at home.[/quote] In this case I would like to advice you to consider to Convert your car to CNG max 60K expense no need to buy new car, u can use ur current vehicle for another 2-3 years. Tatas are such that depreciation from 2/3rd years upto 6 years is minimal, dealers will offer 25% to 30% of invoice value even for 5-6 years old Tata Vehicle. |
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