ARTICLE: How to modify a diesel car for more performance

v1p3r · 25th January 2009, 03:07

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Originally Posted by abhik

I thought the Linea only came out with the 1.3L MJD with VGT instead of the FGT and thus 90BHP?

I didn't say the Lineas in India came with a 1.6 MJD. I said there is a 1.6 MJD abroad and that thing's clutch might be useful.

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Originally Posted by abhik

@v1p3r
How do you think Subaru manages the TMIC set-up w.r.t heat soak from the engine? I have just seen a Subaru from its exterior and never managed to get a glimps of the engine bay. There is just 1 Impreza in Delhi that i know of, painted in WRC graphics.
The above disscussion made me very inquisitive about how Subaru manages their TMIC since they run the same for their rally cars.

You have to realise Subaru runs flat-4 boxer engines in the Impreza and Forester STI. These engines are mounted far ahead of the front axle, leaving little space for a FMIC under normal manufacturing circumstances. However, the engines are very wide but not deep, and thus there is a lot of space behind it taken by the gearbox and links to the AWD system. The TMIC actually sits on top of the gearbox, and thus receives less heat than you would think. For high HP applications, even the 'Rexes run FMICs. The Subaru WRC car, in fact, runs an FMIC behind the front grille, and runs an air intake under the 'power bulge'.

Here's a couple of pictures to that effect: Behind the grill intercooler - NASIOC

abhik · 25th January 2009, 20:46

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Originally Posted by v1p3r

You have to realise Subaru runs flat-4 boxer engines in the Impreza and Forester STI. These engines are mounted far ahead of the front axle, leaving little space for a FMIC under normal manufacturing circumstances. However, the engines are very wide but not deep, and thus there is a lot of space behind it taken by the gearbox and links to the AWD system. The TMIC actually sits on top of the gearbox, and thus receives less heat than you would think. For high HP applications, even the 'Rexes run FMICs. The Subaru WRC car, in fact, runs an FMIC behind the front grille, and runs an air intake under the 'power bulge'.

Here's a couple of pictures to that effect: Behind the grill intercooler - NASIOC

Thanks for the info! I had no clue Subaru runs flat 4 Boxers. I checked out the pics on the link and knew exactly how the IC on it fuctions.

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Originally Posted by v1p3r

I didn't say the Lineas in India came with a 1.6 MJD. I said there is a 1.6 MJD abroad and that thing's clutch might be useful.

You're not a big fan of FIAT are you?

v1p3r · 26th January 2009, 03:11

I'm a big fan of reliability. In my personal experience, FIAT cars have failed to display this particular trait. FIAT-developed engines, on the other hand, I have no complaints with as of now. My current drive is a 1.3 MJD enhanced by the superior ownership experience of Maruti by means of a Swift.

29th January 2009, 13:35

Have just posted a set of new questions on the performance mods for the elantra thread, it would be nice if you guys could contribute to the discussion there.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/modifi...ml#post1149513

18th February 2009, 21:50

Been reading up on Propane fumigation and Methanol+water injection
I'm not planning to install all this, but just wondering

..does anyone have 1st hand experience with both systems?

rajchetan · 27th February 2009, 16:48

Hey Guys!

i have read all the diesel car treads on the forum, but have not found a single post which shows how to improve the performance of a Indica V2DLX (NA).

i am looking to improve my 5year cars performance.
1) how to improve the pick up.
2) Improve the in gear acceleration
3) improve the engine sound.

i considered the KN filters but have not found a single post claming that it workson the indica.

kindly suggest.

GTO · 27th February 2009, 19:19

Raj, if you want my honest advice, don't do anything to the NA Indica. Won't be worth it.

greenhorn · 27th February 2009, 19:37

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Originally Posted by rajchetan

Hey Guys!

i have read all the diesel car treads on the forum, but have not found a single post which shows how to improve the performance of a Indica V2DLX (NA).

i am looking to improve my 5year cars performance.
1) how to improve the pick up.
2) Improve the in gear acceleration
3) improve the engine sound.

i considered the KN filters but have not found a single post claming that it workson the indica.

kindly suggest.

use iftex system D regularly
clean the air filter periodically
use a better grade of engine oil ( we've discussed that in the engine oil thread)

If you really need the performance, sell the indica and get a new indigo CS TDI/Dicor

johnda · 28th February 2009, 07:34

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Originally Posted by rippergeo

Been reading up on...Methanol+water injection..

well, if ever you meet folks who have access to this sort chemicals, Pls remember me...

Been looking all over for methanol for R/C aero fuel

ImmortalZ · 28th February 2009, 10:05

You have to go look at a chemicals supplier. There is one in Trivandrum, near the overbridge, opposite to Planet M.

rajchetan · 1st March 2009, 22:17

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Originally Posted by greenhorn

use iftex system D regularly
clean the air filter periodically
use a better grade of engine oil ( we've discussed that in the engine oil thread)

Whats Iftex System D.. How does it help?
I regularly Dust the Air filter with a Blower, that should do i gus.
Engine oil i am considering Mobil 1 Delvac MX as i have already tried castrol GTX. But how different is Mobil 1 compared to GTX. Suggest from where can i buy it at b'lore?

kj302 · 5th April 2009, 02:39

Hi,
Any body has peted his Optra Magnum?

dockap · 18th April 2009, 00:38

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Originally Posted by kj302

Hi,
Any body has peted his Optra Magnum?

dont know but if you sponser me i will do it and give you a detailed report

ab500 · 18th May 2009, 19:18

Great Thread! Wish I had read it earlier. Got a 2004 Safari with 100000km on it, want to spruce up the performance, any suggestions?

srikant · 24th May 2009, 10:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by rajchetan

Whats Iftex System D.. How does it help?
I regularly Dust the Air filter with a Blower, that should do i gus.
Engine oil i am considering Mobil 1 Delvac MX as i have already tried castrol GTX. But how different is Mobil 1 compared to GTX. Suggest from where can i buy it at b'lore?

System D is an addictive mixed with diesel which is supposed to enhance engine smoothness and keep the engine clean.

Blowing the dust off the filter will be sufficient. Else you can go for CAI (Cold Air Intake). Petes comes with complete dynamisation kit with green cotton filter for swift. Dunno about Indica. You can get details Pete's Automotive Products Pvt Limited

26th January 2009, 03:11	#183
v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR / DXB / LON Posts: 5,334 Thanked: 6,896 Times View My Garage	I'm a big fan of reliability. In my personal experience, FIAT cars have failed to display this particular trait. FIAT-developed engines, on the other hand, I have no complaints with as of now. My current drive is a 1.3 MJD enhanced by the superior ownership experience of Maruti by means of a Swift.
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29th January 2009, 13:35	#184
rippergeo Posts: n/a	Have just posted a set of new questions on the performance mods for the elantra thread, it would be nice if you guys could contribute to the discussion there. http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/modifi...ml#post1149513
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18th February 2009, 21:50	#185
rippergeo Posts: n/a	Been reading up on Propane fumigation and Methanol+water injection I'm not planning to install all this, but just wondering..does anyone have 1st hand experience with both systems?
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27th February 2009, 16:48	#186
rajchetan BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Thailand / Vietnam / HK / Bangalore Posts: 365 Thanked: 146 Times	Hey Guys! i have read all the diesel car treads on the forum, but have not found a single post which shows how to improve the performance of a Indica V2DLX (NA). i am looking to improve my 5year cars performance. 1) how to improve the pick up. 2) Improve the in gear acceleration 3) improve the engine sound. i considered the KN filters but have not found a single post claming that it workson the indica. kindly suggest.
	() Thanks

27th February 2009, 19:19	#187
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 70,512 Thanked: 300,697 Times View My Garage	Raj, if you want my honest advice, don't do anything to the NA Indica. Won't be worth it.
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28th February 2009, 10:05	#190
ImmortalZ Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 2,179 Thanked: 488 Times View My Garage	You have to go look at a chemicals supplier. There is one in Trivandrum, near the overbridge, opposite to Planet M.
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5th April 2009, 02:39	#192
kj302 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 39 Thanked: 5 Times	Pete's box for optra magnum Hi, Any body has peted his Optra Magnum?
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18th May 2009, 19:18	#194
ab500 BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Mumbai Posts: 97 Thanked: 51 Times	Great Thread! Wish I had read it earlier. Got a 2004 Safari with 100000km on it, want to spruce up the performance, any suggestions?
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