[CrAzY dRiVeR]

Originally Posted by ethanhunt123

Kawasaki needs to undercut 310GS by quite a lot if they hope to stand a chance with X-300. But i doubt they are even bothered.

Why so? Brand or bike? Because the X300 is considered at par or better than the 310GS even by international media. Gets hardware like spoked wheels, a much smoother parallel twin etc that the GS doesn't get as well.

PS - The German looks better and worth the money, compared to the weird looks of the baby Versys.

[nasirkaka]

PS - The German looks better and worth the money, compared to the weird looks of the baby Versys

subconsciously, one of the reasons for bending towards the baby GS. Also, unless one is doing some serious off-roading, the spoke wheels are more of a liability if not tubeless. I think i will settle for the Silver and Red combo.. going to check them out at tusker tomorrow.

[dextor]

We should actually run a poll to see who will buy 310R over Ninja 300

Kawasaki just pushed BMW out of the line with new pricing. Need to see if Yamaha follows the same with R3 or still resist. I think it all depends on how aggressive the marketing heads at Yamaha are.

[ethanhunt123]

Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR

Why so? Brand or bike? Because the X300 is considered at par or better than the 310GS even by international media. Gets hardware like spoked wheels, a much smoother parallel twin etc that the GS doesn't get as well.

PS - The German looks better and worth the money, compared to the weird looks of the baby Versys.

Brand, Looks, Premium Quality.

While GS looks like a beautiful machine - Versys X-300 looks like a very weird contraption. Besides how many people do actually need the spoked wheels etc on the Versys.

[Ajaybiz]

Originally Posted by dextor

We should actually run a poll to see who will buy 310R over Ninja 300

Kawasaki just pushed BMW out of the line with new pricing. Need to see if Yamaha follows the same with R3 or still resist. I think it all depends on how aggressive the marketing heads at Yamaha are.

Isn't both are completely different segment? Or still we are in the age of "anything above 2 L is Superbike", people still talk like "I drove the bike", your super bike ( I tried many times that it's adventure bike not super bike)

[CrAzY dRiVeR]

Originally Posted by Ajaybiz

Isn't both are completely different segment?

True.

But most people purchasing a bike from this price bracket in India are first time owners and they generally look for the best all-rounder, rather than specifically targetting to buy a naked, sport etc. Success depends on how well these machines can adapt to our conditions as a single bike in the garage.

Same reason why we see the Duke 390 (primary competition for the 310R) heavily used for touring, despite all its shortcomings as a tourer.

PS -

You can see here (Kawasaki Ninja 300 prices to drop thanks to heavy localisation. EDIT: Launched at 2.98 lakhs) right now that two BHPians are going through the same confusion. What to purchase between the Ninja 300 / Duke 390 / 310GS.

[Ajaybiz]

Lol can't help when he is not sure the kind of bike he want.

[payeng]

The Ninja 300 is a gem of a machine. and now with its "Honest Pricing" the Joke is on BMW.

Zigwheels: Kawasaki Launches 2018 Ninja 300 ABS At Rs 2.98 lakh

[whencut86]

Originally Posted by nasirkaka

I am almost sold on the baby GS but an having second thoughts after going through the last few pages here.

I am tired of waiting for a lightweight comfortable bike, if it was KTM 390 adv, i would have jumped at it. BMW310 GS is definitely overpriced, but what other options do we have? I took 3 test rides of Himalayan but was not convinced. Versys 300X is 4.65L Ex showroom, and expensive on service and spares. I seriously dont care about that BMW badge, but may have to settle for it. Would be superhappy if the same bike had the TVS horse and was priced a lakh lower, the BMW badge would anyways draw unwanted attention and am sure people would try and peel it off..

If you intend to wait and watch then Hero might release the Xpulse before this year end maybe. Since you own a Versys anyway, you are the premium customers BMW is targetting.
Just ride the Versys to the BMW showroom for booking the GS and they will treat you really well going by the posts on how they treat potential customers.

[CrAzY dRiVeR]

Originally Posted by whencut86

Just ride the Versys to the BMW showroom for booking the GS and they will treat you really well going by the posts on how they treat potential customers.

Ah! I see you are not from Bangalore.

Bangalore showroom is located in the heart of the city - at a location where you can't even park a cycle in front of the showroom. Parking a Versys there will only result in blocked traffic and a fight with the traffic police towaway van.

Service is managed from the 3rd floor of this building. Will be interesting to see how they can handle increasing volumes.

[ethanhunt123]

Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR

Service is managed from the 3rd floor of this building. Will be interesting to see how they can handle increasing volumes.

Maybe this is the reason why BMW priced their bikes at such a premium

It would be really interesting indeed to see how the sales guys in BMW showrooms cope with the influx of crowd now.

[CrAzY dRiVeR]

First Ride Impressions - NDTV Car and Bike - G310R.

https://youtu.be/EZ4BFp_Wav8

Originally Posted by ethanhunt123

Maybe this is the reason why BMW priced their bikes at such a premium

True. I've been saying that from a couple of months now. Pricing of the GS is exactly what I had predicted back then.

310R however just doesn't have the desirability to pull it off, I feel. GS should do relatively fine - no better priced competition too.

[nasirkaka]

If you intend to wait and watch then Hero might release the Xpulse before this year end maybe.

I have been waiting for Xpulse for eternity and that bike is very much in scheme. I am not able to use versys for what its built for but wasting it on city commute daily. Versys is manageable in city but lets say not ideal when it comes to weight and size. So the idea is to eventually replace versys with baby GS for daily commute plus weekend breakfast ride and an xpulse for trail bashing or during monsoons. Selling the versys should get me enough to buy these two bikes, hopefully.

Bangalore showroom is located in the heart of the city - at a location where you can't even park a cycle in front of the showroom. Parking a Versys there will only result in blocked traffic and a fight with the traffic police towaway van.

Wearing a Dainese jacket or carrying an AGV helmet should work as both the brands are owned and sold by the same tusker group and they know the premium they charge on these brands.

[MaheshY1]

Originally Posted by anshumandun

The G310GS has got rave reviews worldwide as a superb adventure tourer. And rightly so because it has one thing that no one (Tiger, Versys, GS1200) has: Light weight! Off roaders know how important it is for the bike to be light for easy handling and maneuverability on trails and bad roads.
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Well said. That's exactly how the 390 ADV will drag its ass down the dirt trail. With more power and similar weight. Hopefully, it'll even get wire spoke wheels. KTM also has enormous experience off-road participating in Dakar, Hare Scramble, Baja 1000, and what not. That'll certainly come in handy. The 390 ADV's suspension will obviously be more off-road ready than the GS's.

The 310 GS is a soft roader at best. Plus, the positive reviews abroad also keep the price in context. It's better priced outside.

It has the road presence for sure. And I maintain that it's a superb commuter and tourer. But not worth Rs. 4 lakh no matter how you look at it.

Now I'm all the more eagerly waiting for the 390 ADV.

[CrAzY dRiVeR]

More reviews pouring in -

310GS First Ride - NDTV Car and Bike.

https://youtu.be/eu4SIdqX2-o

310 Twins First Ride - Evo.

https://youtu.be/jW-erZ-yhgs

Similar conclusions - Hard to justify the price of the R, but the GS is much awaited in the Indian context.