[safari_lover]

Bajaj and Triumph seems to have a done a wonderful job with this motorcycle. Going by the reviews here and elsewhere, the Speed 400 looks like a winner all around.

@Axe77, how is the engine heat management on this bike? Does it get anywhere near as hot as the KTM Duke 390 in traffic?

On a related note, this is what TVS should have done with the Ronin to begin with - launched it with the engine from Apache 310R, instead of that neither-here-nor-there 220cc engine. Here's hoping that the response received by Speed 400 will make them take corrective action soon.

[antz.bin]

Just called up Triumph Pashan in Pune. He first confirmed if I have received the first 10k customer message (which I have).

Test ride bikes will arrive by the 1st or 2nd week of August.

No commitment on deliveries yet. Wouldn't even say September for booking ID #86xx. The only thing he did say was I will get a message with updates on when I will get the delivery. Nothing else.

Coming to the engine heat, I doubt anyone can comment for now. The weather in Pune has been very pleasant the past 3 weeks now. Minimum temperature of 22-23, Max of 27-28. This combined with rain means very little heat build-up.

As far as comparison with the Duke is concerned. Speed 400 engine is larger in capacity but makes less power. This is probably due to a lower compression ratio. 12.88:1 for Duke vs 12:1 for Speed. This is same as the Dominar but higher than the TVS/BMW 313cc engine that has a compression ratio of 10.9:1. Harley 440x compression ratio is even lower at 9.5:1. Higher the compression ratio, higher the heat generated.

[Axe77]

Originally Posted by safari_lover

@Axe77, how is the engine heat management on this bike? Does it get anywhere near as hot as the KTM Duke 390 in traffic?

@Safari_lover: Reproducing the relevant extract from our review below for ready reference. Some reviewers did encounter a little traffic and according to their reviews the heat generated was nothing offensive. BUT, best to check this out first hand in heavy traffic once test mules are readily available.

Originally Posted by Axe77

At no point during the ride did I face any engine heat issues but I don't want to leave this as a conclusion since most of my riding was on open roads and I was never in any heavy or standing traffic. We'd reserve judgement on this aspect until we get a chance to ride it in heavy city traffic.

Originally Posted by antz.bin

Coming to the engine heat, I doubt anyone can comment for now. The weather in Pune has been very pleasant the past 3 weeks now. Minimum temperature of 22-23, Max of 27-28. This combined with rain means very little heat build-up.

Indeed - and consistent with what I experienced above. We’ll have to wait and watch via extended test rides as to this aspect.

[shailinder]

Hi Guys,

I have booked mine, and at 2.23L ex. Showroom. Eagerly waiting for the delivery. I actually wanted to book 400X, but I have been waiting for over a year and cannot wait any further. That is why going ahead with S400.

Any idea on insurance from outside? I want a zero-dep plan. Has anyone tried it and especially from a Triumph showroom etc. pls suggest?

Thanks

[shashant]

I spotted one yesterday. It looked small in size, closer to Hunter than Classic.

[Senotrius]

Test ride by first week of august according to the Triumph whatsapp registration form.

[aviator1101]

Received a whatsapp message with link to a Google Form today from the Triumph Dealer in Kolkata.

Various questions including personal details were part of the form. The last question was preferred time for test ride, options starting from mornings in first week of August. So those are the timelines when the demo bikes would be available in the existing Triumph showrooms

[HappyWheels]

Originally Posted by aviator1101

Received a whatsapp message with link to a Google Form today from the Triumph Dealer in Kolkata.

Various questions including personal details were part of the form. The last question was preferred time for test ride, options starting from mornings in first week of August. So those are the timelines when the demo bikes would be available in the existing Triumph showrooms

Got the SMS and completed the form few minutes back. Not sure why they need license number!

Selected August start, for test drive.

Think this is from Triumph itself and not dealer.

[antz.bin]

Just filled the form.

Just as the guy on the phone told me earlier today, test rides in August.

And yes, this was from the Triumph India number, not BU Bhandari's.

[shailinder]

I received a WhatsApp; they wanted individual details via a Google doc. Test rides are scheduled for 1st week of Aug, and it looks like there will be a launch event, too they request to confirm whether anyone would be interested in participating.

[antz.bin]

Can someone please compare this bike to the 3 "Main Rivals" mentioned in this video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVlf9B__Xc0

Incidentally, all 3 are available in India but very few in the Indian media even give them a passing mention. 1 Publication did do a ergonomics and sound comparo with the KTM but none of the other 2 were even mentioned. I wonder why everyone is hell bent on comparing it with the RE350s when both bikes are not even close!

[gkrishn]

Originally Posted by antz.bin

Can someone please compare this bike to the 3 "Main Rivals" mentioned in this video?

https://www.Youtube.com/watch?v=mVlf9B__Xc0

Incidentally, all 3 are available in India but very few in the Indian media even give them a passing mention. 1 Publication did do a ergonomics and sound comparo with the KTM but none of the other 2 were even mentioned. I wonder why everyone is hell bent on comparing it with the RE350s when both bikes are not even close!

And in england, they are referring to this as prototype!
I hope the initial 10k units sold in india are not from this "prototype" bins!

[Ratan Prabhu]

Originally Posted by antz.bin

Can someone please compare this bike to the 3 "Main Rivals" mentioned in this video?

https://www.Youtube.com/watch?v=mVlf9B__Xc0

Incidentally, all 3 are available in India but very few in the Indian media even give them a passing mention. 1 Publication did do a ergonomics and sound comparo with the KTM but none of the other 2 were even mentioned. I wonder why everyone is hell bent on comparing it with the RE350s when both bikes are not even close!

In India, the "competition" is viewed in terms of sales figures rather than actual same segment bike. I agree, Triumph Speed 400 should be compared with CB300R, BMW g310, Duke390. But their sales figures are pretty average to below average. So the target "competition" is the king of sales - Classic 350 and Hunter 350. No quite right. But that's the way it is.

[aargee]

Originally Posted by antz.bin

I wonder why everyone is hell bent on comparing it with the RE350s when both bikes are not even close!

Because:
1. Honda CB350, 300, GS & Apache 310, Jawa are not even making any numbers
2. Harley 440X is yet to be launched
3. Talking about Benelli or any other Chinese manufacturer is nowhere in sight
4. Talking about KTM, Dominar or Kawasaki is shooting Bajaj's own foot

Who's the next alternative? RE & variants {besides that's where the money can be made from}

Only people like us can really understand comparing these motorcycles are not relevant at all

[amol4184]

Originally Posted by Axe77

Triumph Speed 400 Cons

The cons don’t actually sound like cons. Minor inconveniences for some special cases while others being cosmetic. The only doubtful aspect is the last one, regarding service/customer care. These bikes look great. Only 2 wheeler after Yamaha Aerox that felt enticing (to me).