The Gearless Scooter Thread

jkdas · 5th January 2010, 16:47

Check this thread http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/motorb...er-thread.html

ravi@64bhp · 5th January 2010, 17:03

Honda Aviator would be good choice. Suzuki Access though is a very good scooter, it has more stiffer suspension than Aviator. Aviator with front 12 inch wheel handles better the bad roads. More over, the Aviator has a very good seating position which is good for long rides.

The Aviator has a very very strong build quality. I have ridden almost all the scooters in the last three months, particularly the Aviator for the past 2 months. The tougher scooter, I must say, is the Aviator.

Suzuki Access seat is hard and it is a pain for long rides.

s3va · 5th January 2010, 17:24

Folks,

I am planning to buy a gearless scooter for my wife who is 5'2" tall. I used to ride a Kintetic Honda when I was in school and right now I dont have a clue of the ideal scooter in the market these days. Honda DIO is something that looks hip, but I dont know if my wife would be able to touch her feet properly.

While Scooty looks light and manageable I really dont know the reliability.

ALso if I am going for a used scooter what are the things that I have to consider ?

McLaren Rulez · 5th January 2010, 17:44

Thank you for the replies. The Aviator and the Access are definitely in consideration. Does anyone have any experience with the TVS Wego? And can anyone give me an estimate on what kind of price we can get for the old Activa?

ravi@64bhp · 5th January 2010, 17:50

TVS Wego is not on the roads yet. With 12 inch wheels both front and rear, it has plush ride quality compared to Aviator and Access. The reviews from ACI and Overdrive are very promising and it is clear winner in both the reviews. The 110 cc engine is also very smooth as indicated by the reviews.

But, as for the build quality, I can say Aviator is lot better compared to TVS. Moreover, the review reported, the low handle bar in Wego may not be comfortable for tall riders with their knees occasionally touching the front apron and key with hard braking.

On the whole, Wego is also a strong competitor which will available in the market may be this month end.

I do not have exact idea how much the old Activa fetches you.

jaaz · 5th January 2010, 17:58

Except for the Suspension, (If you're are particular about that) - Go for Honda itself. I preferred Sym Flyte, just for its suspension and can be used by both the Gender.

ravi@64bhp · 5th January 2010, 18:00

^^Scooty is the ideal scooter for your wife. Reliability is good if not close to Hondas.

Also you can consider Mahindra Flyte which is very light and small to handle. The negatives for Flyte are low ground clearance, not so great service, and low mileage. With pillion Flyte's underbelly touches the big speedbrakers. Except a mileage of 40 (where as scooty gives 50 kmpl) with Flyte.

Dio is very good. Ask your wife to test ride it and see if she can handle. If she is comfortable, go for Dio.

RX135 · 5th January 2010, 18:21

Little more feedback on Activa:

Overall build quality is excellent. It has held up well so far, though it has hardly been put through any torture. No niggling issues except that RVM getting loose often.
Faced several problems with starting. I suspect that the battery was not getting fully charged. (Mostly Short <2 km runabouts). Twice, my wife left the scooter on the road since she was not able to button-start it. I had to go and kick start it. We had it serviced and since I had suspected battery charging problem, I rode it to the office for couple of days (13 km either way). It seems to have improved after that.
It is stable on road at high speeds (for Activa, high speed = 60-80), but not as confidence inspiring as any motorcycle.

Maximum_torque · 5th January 2010, 19:42

I think the Mahindra Rodeo is also a good proposition as it comes from the Mahindra stable. The signature Mahindra trait is of sturdiness and power. This one has a 125 cc engine so it is a very powerful gearless scooter.

YouTube - mahindra rodeo ad

Sheel · 5th January 2010, 22:05

Did the Honda bother you within the 70K? i don't hope much, others might, if in case you don't like the plain vanilla looks of Activa, Dio and Aviator are there to save your day,

McLaren Rulez · 5th January 2010, 22:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sheel

Did the Honda bother you within the 70K? i don't hope much, others might, if in case you don't like the plain vanilla looks of Activa, Dio and Aviator are there to save your day,

The Honda performed very well but the quality of roads it was being driven on is the reason why its in a bad way now. We were wondering if there were better alternatives that could survive those bad roads better than the Activa did. Hence the requirement for good build, comfortable ride and durability. Otherwise, the Activa was a great scooter that was comfy and performed without a hitch for all these years.

Also could someone estimate the value of the old Activa. We want to get an idea of what its worth in the market before we decide to give it away. If its resale value is going to be very low, then there's no point giving it away. After all, despite its age, rattles and what not, it still does the job.

Sheel · 5th January 2010, 22:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by McLaren Rulez

The Honda performed very well but the quality of roads it was being driven on is the reason why its in a bad way now. We were wondering if there were better alternatives that could survive those bad roads better than the Activa did. Hence the requirement for good build, comfortable ride and durability. Otherwise, the Activa was a great scooter that was comfy and performed without a hitch for all these years.

I am pretty tempted to say Access but I had suggested few Suzukis to my friends but for some strange reason, the build quality(of Suzuki India) is not there with Honda, Yamaha, tank rust, dimmest headlamps this side of classic CBZ and other general issues, IMHO Honda makes most reliable & fuss free scoots to potter around, though i feel Suzuki shall fare a lot better than other products of various other companies

Mpower · 5th January 2010, 22:41

Rodeo/Flyte is the best scooter for ride and handling. Light and manuverable.

ravi@64bhp · 5th January 2010, 22:45

Rodeo/Flyte will not be durable on the bad roads; the less ground clerance is a big problem with potholes and speedbrakers. Given the circumstances, with high quality front telescopic forks, top notch build quality, and a very comfortable riding posture, Aviator is a top contender/choice.

I have been using Avaiator (also used Flyte) for the past two months, and I can say confidently the above.

djjebs · 19th January 2010, 22:54

Hey guys,

I'm planning to pick up a two wheeler(gear less). Which of these would be a good buy. In order of preference.

1) Honda Dio: I like this but the problem is 45 - 60 days waiting
2) Honda Activa: Like this too, but again the problem is 45 - 60 days waiting
3) Suzuki Access: Don't mind but not sure of the waiting
4) Mahindra Rodeo: Somewhat likes it, especially the features. (but the not sure how it would perform in the long run)

Please help me make a decision. Planning to pick up this weekend.

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5th January 2010, 17:03	#887
ravi@64bhp BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 602 Thanked: 11 Times	Honda Aviator would be good choice. Suzuki Access though is a very good scooter, it has more stiffer suspension than Aviator. Aviator with front 12 inch wheel handles better the bad roads. More over, the Aviator has a very good seating position which is good for long rides. The Aviator has a very very strong build quality. I have ridden almost all the scooters in the last three months, particularly the Aviator for the past 2 months. The tougher scooter, I must say, is the Aviator. Suzuki Access seat is hard and it is a pain for long rides.
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5th January 2010, 17:24	#888
s3va BHPian Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dubai Posts: 646 Thanked: 7 Times View My Garage	Folks, I am planning to buy a gearless scooter for my wife who is 5'2" tall. I used to ride a Kintetic Honda when I was in school and right now I dont have a clue of the ideal scooter in the market these days. Honda DIO is something that looks hip, but I dont know if my wife would be able to touch her feet properly. While Scooty looks light and manageable I really dont know the reliability. ALso if I am going for a used scooter what are the things that I have to consider ?
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5th January 2010, 17:44	#889
McLaren Rulez Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Mysore Posts: 3,467 Thanked: 5,545 Times	Thank you for the replies. The Aviator and the Access are definitely in consideration. Does anyone have any experience with the TVS Wego? And can anyone give me an estimate on what kind of price we can get for the old Activa?
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5th January 2010, 17:50	#890
ravi@64bhp BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 602 Thanked: 11 Times	TVS Wego is not on the roads yet. With 12 inch wheels both front and rear, it has plush ride quality compared to Aviator and Access. The reviews from ACI and Overdrive are very promising and it is clear winner in both the reviews. The 110 cc engine is also very smooth as indicated by the reviews. But, as for the build quality, I can say Aviator is lot better compared to TVS. Moreover, the review reported, the low handle bar in Wego may not be comfortable for tall riders with their knees occasionally touching the front apron and key with hard braking. On the whole, Wego is also a strong competitor which will available in the market may be this month end. I do not have exact idea how much the old Activa fetches you. Last edited by ravi@64bhp : 5th January 2010 at 18:04.
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5th January 2010, 17:58	#891
jaaz BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Earth Posts: 674 Thanked: 678 Times	Except for the Suspension, (If you're are particular about that) - Go for Honda itself. I preferred Sym Flyte, just for its suspension and can be used by both the Gender.
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5th January 2010, 18:00	#892
ravi@64bhp BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 602 Thanked: 11 Times	^^Scooty is the ideal scooter for your wife. Reliability is good if not close to Hondas. Also you can consider Mahindra Flyte which is very light and small to handle. The negatives for Flyte are low ground clearance, not so great service, and low mileage. With pillion Flyte's underbelly touches the big speedbrakers. Except a mileage of 40 (where as scooty gives 50 kmpl) with Flyte. Dio is very good. Ask your wife to test ride it and see if she can handle. If she is comfortable, go for Dio.
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5th January 2010, 18:21	#893
RX135 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: pune Posts: 2,106 Thanked: 77 Times	Little more feedback on Activa: Overall build quality is excellent. It has held up well so far, though it has hardly been put through any torture. No niggling issues except that RVM getting loose often. Faced several problems with starting. I suspect that the battery was not getting fully charged. (Mostly Short <2 km runabouts). Twice, my wife left the scooter on the road since she was not able to button-start it. I had to go and kick start it. We had it serviced and since I had suspected battery charging problem, I rode it to the office for couple of days (13 km either way). It seems to have improved after that. It is stable on road at high speeds (for Activa, high speed = 60-80), but not as confidence inspiring as any motorcycle.
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Sheel Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Purnea (Bihar) Posts: 10,009 Thanked: 15,138 Times View My Garage	Did the Honda bother you within the 70K? i don't hope much, others might, if in case you don't like the plain vanilla looks of Activa, Dio and Aviator are there to save your day,
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5th January 2010, 22:41	#898
Mpower Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 10,397 Thanked: 1,735 Times View My Garage	Rodeo/Flyte is the best scooter for ride and handling. Light and manuverable.
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5th January 2010, 22:45	#899
ravi@64bhp BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 602 Thanked: 11 Times	Rodeo/Flyte will not be durable on the bad roads; the less ground clerance is a big problem with potholes and speedbrakers. Given the circumstances, with high quality front telescopic forks, top notch build quality, and a very comfortable riding posture, Aviator is a top contender/choice. I have been using Avaiator (also used Flyte) for the past two months, and I can say confidently the above. Last edited by ravi@64bhp : 5th January 2010 at 22:47.
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19th January 2010, 22:54	#900
djjebs BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 79 Thanked: 13 Times	Dio, Activa, Acess or Rodeo Hey guys, I'm planning to pick up a two wheeler(gear less). Which of these would be a good buy. In order of preference. 1) Honda Dio: I like this but the problem is 45 - 60 days waiting 2) Honda Activa: Like this too, but again the problem is 45 - 60 days waiting 3) Suzuki Access: Don't mind but not sure of the waiting 4) Mahindra Rodeo: Somewhat likes it, especially the features. (but the not sure how it would perform in the long run) Please help me make a decision. Planning to pick up this weekend.
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