The Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi thread

jkdas · 4th August 2006, 08:51

COmet is too costly to compare with Kzma or DTSFI

Mp421b · 4th August 2006, 10:58

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HH Karizma:
Pros: stress free engine

You got to be kidding. The Karizma is one bike which i feel could have done with a few more horses and it shows how the bike knocks on low revs.

sids911 · 4th August 2006, 11:23

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Originally Posted by Mp421b

You got to be kidding. The Karizma is one bike which i feel could have done with a few more horses and it shows how the bike knocks on low revs.

No kidding...Karizma's engine lacks horses, thats why its stress free. The more the horses u cram in 224 cc the more stressed the engine is.

Moreover, Engine Life Factor (ELF) depends upon HP-Torque-RPM curve. AFAIK,

DTS-FI - 20 BHP @ 8500 rpm - normal ELF
Comet - 27 BHP @ 10500 rpm - more wear n tear if I want to extract all the horses
Kari - 17 BHP @ 7000 rpm - excellent ELF

These figures tell that Kari's engine will last longest and Comet's will last shortest. But Kari is least fun to ride and comet will still kick some bada**, even after DTS-FI is launched.

What say all??

Technocrat · 4th August 2006, 12:17

On the other hand if you are producing high power & torque at lower RPMS the load on chain & sprocket is high which means frequent changing of these(which is the case with ZMA). basically there are lot of thing you can not genralise. The tech these days usually takes cares of the diff factors.

Btw how do you know teh DTS-FI is producing peak power 8500 rpm ?? because as of today this is biggest mystery to all

sids911 · 4th August 2006, 13:14

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Originally Posted by Technocrat

Btw how do you know teh DTS-FI is producing peak power 8500 rpm ?? because as of today this is biggest mystery to all

I am quoting specs from Autocar India August edition;

L/W/H:2035/750/1140mm
Wheelbase:1350mm
Kerb weight:150kg
Engine Layout:Oil+Air cooled Single, 4 stroke,220 cc
Power: 20 BHP at 8500rpm
Torque: 1.95kgm at 6500rpm
Specific output: 91 BHP per litre.....more specs in Autocar.

By this time probably, all the Auto mags would have quoted the same figures.

Technocrat · 4th August 2006, 13:50

Kewl this wasnt known to me btw were they speculating or have confirmed this? because if thats the case this bike would have real good power :-)

sids911 · 4th August 2006, 14:21

Confirmed specs....These were supplied by Bajaj to various auto journos when they were called for a prelim ride at chakan, pune.

Anyone knows about the confirmed price of the bike yet? Guys on a prominent biking forum are talking about DTS-FI being 80K OTR Pune!!!!

If they stick to this price, then it would be almost a steal!!! Here in Indore, prices are even less, all the bikes cost atleast 3-4k less than pune OTR prices!

Proxima · 5th August 2006, 17:21

Which prominent forum is this ? (if I may ask)

tazz_rules · 9th August 2006, 22:22

waiting for this bike to launch......... heard its gonna be launched in diwali.

thunder · 10th August 2006, 08:56

Sorry friend on behalf of Bajaj Auto Ltd. because they launh the bike in dec. or jan. , I donot know why they have again revised the date and thats true.

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6 long trip!
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Vicki_Rau · 6th September 2006, 10:58

Hi all,
Read the Business India?
Bajaj state that they will launch 1 big(???) bike every year upto 2008. Say there is nothing stopping them to go to 500, 600 or even 1000 cc

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Expected launch of Fi=Sept. 06.
Lets wait and see.

zulfikar · 6th September 2006, 13:08

Vicki_Rau first let them launch the 220cc then we will talk about the 500, 600 and 1000 by 2009-10...

do u actually belive that they will launch by the time they say...

Vicki_Rau · 6th September 2006, 13:14

Zulfikar,
You said it.
The way they are pussyfooting around with this launch, one would think they are re-inventing the concept of biking in India.
What is commendable though, is that as regards the engineering, they have done everything on their own.

THE-U- · 9th September 2006, 01:25

No launch date yet? The bike does look fantastic except for the digital speedo. The instrument panel must be symmetric for easy read and they go for bright orange? How about an LED display instead of LCDs with backlight?

thunder · 9th September 2006, 22:16

Hi Friends!!

Hi how r u all, after a long time I m again here in this forum.Actually a week back, I met with a accident and my left hand got severly injured even in right hand there is little pain while writing or typing.

I m really missing all the discussion in this forum. Now I m here again.

There is only 1 sad point for me that now I have to cancel my gangotri plan as my friend was not able to extend his leave but still I want to visit somewhere so I have decided to go Himachal Pradesh(chandratal lake or Kinnaur again.) since one of my friend is still ready to go but he is interested in Himachal.

Still my position is not ok to drive the bike but I m very optimistic that I will recover fully within next 3-4 days after all travelling (specially in himalayn range) is the only great thing in my life.

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Pulsar 180
7 long trip!
Latest - Kinnaur
Next- Can't say
objects seen in mirror r disappearing rapidly

4th August 2006, 08:51	#166
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	COmet is too costly to compare with Kzma or DTSFI
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4th August 2006, 12:17	#169
Technocrat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: GTA Posts: 14,813 Thanked: 2,700 Times	On the other hand if you are producing high power & torque at lower RPMS the load on chain & sprocket is high which means frequent changing of these(which is the case with ZMA). basically there are lot of thing you can not genralise. The tech these days usually takes cares of the diff factors. Btw how do you know teh DTS-FI is producing peak power 8500 rpm ?? because as of today this is biggest mystery to all
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4th August 2006, 13:50	#171
Technocrat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: GTA Posts: 14,813 Thanked: 2,700 Times	Kewl this wasnt known to me btw were they speculating or have confirmed this? because if thats the case this bike would have real good power :-)
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4th August 2006, 14:21	#172
sids911 BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 389 Thanked: 43 Times View My Garage	Confirmed specs....These were supplied by Bajaj to various auto journos when they were called for a prelim ride at chakan, pune. Anyone knows about the confirmed price of the bike yet? Guys on a prominent biking forum are talking about DTS-FI being 80K OTR Pune!!!! If they stick to this price, then it would be almost a steal!!! Here in Indore, prices are even less, all the bikes cost atleast 3-4k less than pune OTR prices!
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5th August 2006, 17:21	#173
Proxima BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Chennai Posts: 910 Thanked: 302 Times	Which prominent forum is this ? (if I may ask)
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9th August 2006, 22:22	#174
tazz_rules BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: MUMBAI Posts: 45 Thanked: 0 Times	waiting for this bike to launch......... heard its gonna be launched in diwali. Last edited by tazz_rules : 9th August 2006 at 22:25.
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10th August 2006, 08:56	#175
thunder BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 85 Thanked: 22 Times	Sorry friend on behalf of Bajaj Auto Ltd. because they launh the bike in dec. or jan. , I donot know why they have again revised the date and thats true. ----------- Pulsar 180 6 long trip! Latest - Delhi-hemkunt shahib-Badrinath-Mana-Nanital-Delhi Next-Kinnaur(3days in total) objects seen in mirror r disappearing rapidly
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6th September 2006, 10:58	#176
Vicki_Rau BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 88 Thanked: 5 Times	Hi all, Read the Business India? Bajaj state that they will launch 1 big(???) bike every year upto 2008. Say there is nothing stopping them to go to 500, 600 or even 1000 cc . Expected launch of Fi=Sept. 06. Lets wait and see.
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6th September 2006, 13:08	#177
zulfikar BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 532 Thanked: 18 Times View My Garage	Vicki_Rau first let them launch the 220cc then we will talk about the 500, 600 and 1000 by 2009-10... do u actually belive that they will launch by the time they say...
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6th September 2006, 13:14	#178
Vicki_Rau BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 88 Thanked: 5 Times	Zulfikar, You said it. The way they are pussyfooting around with this launch, one would think they are re-inventing the concept of biking in India. What is commendable though, is that as regards the engineering, they have done everything on their own.
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9th September 2006, 01:25	#179
THE-U- BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 274 Thanked: 168 Times	No launch date yet? The bike does look fantastic except for the digital speedo. The instrument panel must be symmetric for easy read and they go for bright orange? How about an LED display instead of LCDs with backlight?
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9th September 2006, 22:16	#180
thunder BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 85 Thanked: 22 Times	Hi Friends!! Hi how r u all, after a long time I m again here in this forum.Actually a week back, I met with a accident and my left hand got severly injured even in right hand there is little pain while writing or typing. I m really missing all the discussion in this forum. Now I m here again. There is only 1 sad point for me that now I have to cancel my gangotri plan as my friend was not able to extend his leave but still I want to visit somewhere so I have decided to go Himachal Pradesh(chandratal lake or Kinnaur again.) since one of my friend is still ready to go but he is interested in Himachal. Still my position is not ok to drive the bike but I m very optimistic that I will recover fully within next 3-4 days after all travelling (specially in himalayn range) is the only great thing in my life. ----------------- Pulsar 180 7 long trip! Latest - Kinnaur Next- Can't say objects seen in mirror r disappearing rapidly
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