The Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi thread

Mpower · 13th July 2006, 04:41

Ladies and Gentlemen, lets give a big hand Rajiv Bajaj for bringing this bike to Indians.

Its a lot of effort for a Indian company like Bajaj to bring all this tech to us, where as companies like Yamaha/Honda which have awesome products in their portfolio give us only boring stuff.

It may not have the solid big bike feel due to the puny P150 chassis but the tire and fork will help.

Interesting points. No kickstarter at all and exposed chain.

v1p3r · 13th July 2006, 05:05

I don't know, Mpower, I just don't know. How expensive is it to have FI on a bike? Does it justify a 1 lakh price tag?

I hope you realise that this means any customer now HAS to take his bike to the Bajaj service folk. Very few standalone garages/mechanics can afford electronics to read and diagnose electronic systems, as I'm sure this bike will use.

Still, Bajaj HAS pioneered this in the Indian market, and for what it's worth, I appreciate that.

jkdas · 13th July 2006, 08:51

wasnt it supposed to be oil cooled or so?

nice find Techno

Mpower · 13th July 2006, 09:08

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Originally Posted by v1p3r

I don't know, Mpower, I just don't know. How expensive is it to have FI on a bike? Does it justify a 1 lakh price tag?

I hope you realise that this means any customer now HAS to take his bike to the Bajaj service folk.

Frankly, I think EFI is an overkill, Bajaj is on a ego trip that's all.

If sales dont take off, expect Bajaj to launch a cut price version with carb+rear drum+kickstart and many other P180 parts. But first it will sell as many Rs.1 lakh bikes to all the power freaks out there....and yes its air+oil cooled.

Technocrat · 13th July 2006, 10:16

@jkdas: Thanks Mate.. btw it IS oil cooled

Rtech · 13th July 2006, 10:27

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No kickstarter at all

That scares me! The electric starter on my classic P180 always caused problems! Though to be fair to Bajaj, that was a few years ago!

islero · 13th July 2006, 13:30

This bike needs bigger tyres so badly. They shouldnt care about reducing mileage: it looks so awkard on those skinny-looking tyres!!

Fatter and larger dia rear tyres along with fatter front one will completley transform the looks.

So anyone buying this bike, you knwo what mod you have to do first.

Rtech · 13th July 2006, 13:39

120 section rubber is more than enough for 20bhp (at the crank that to!).

rejika · 14th July 2006, 09:25

Have a look at the Business standard motoring article. He predicts a price tag of 92K and says this motrocycle is going to be a commecial success.

http://bsmotoring.com/2006/jul08_1.htm

turbo_v12 · 14th July 2006, 09:58

Kudos to Bajaj for all the new technology being deployed.

P.S. Is a 230 mm rear disc necessary? Even SBKs I think have 220 mm rear discs with so much power at the rear wheel..

ranjan united · 14th July 2006, 15:04

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Originally Posted by turbo_v12

Kudos to Bajaj for all the new technology being deployed.

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Originally Posted by turbo_v12

P.S. Is a 230 mm rear disc necessary? Even SBKs I think have 220 mm rear discs with so much power at the rear wheel..

The 2005 Honda Hornet CB900 and the 2006 Buell XB12S have 240 mm rear discs. the hornet is 919cc and the buell 1200cc, both with 240mm. so i guess the 230mm rear disc isn't that necessary. but ofcourse Buell riders dont have to deal with pedestrians and cows !!!

Steeroid · 14th July 2006, 22:51

Thanks Rahul for the Fuel Injection, the rear Discs, the Projector beam, the Oil cooling, the Front Forks, the snazzy electricals and display and for the attempt at breaking the Great Indian FE Obsession.

However, 20bhp is little too less and the bike's styling is rather forced, almost like you were trying hard to be different. I'm sure you could've done better.

Kudos anyway, and hope this will be a commercial success. Enough to warrant a more adventurous excursion into 'performance'.

BUSA · 14th July 2006, 23:42

One more feature is there, self cancelling indicators like cars and also scratch resistant petrol tank.

speedsatya · 15th July 2006, 17:22

55w Headlights also .....this is one thing thats needed on all indian bikes .....other bikes have useless 35 w headlights ...as if bike makers are doing some favour by giving headlights ....only teh caliber had 40 w headlights

2fast4u · 16th July 2006, 10:54

so this bike will sure give future comet imports a run for its money.
the bike looks cool and lets hope the handling is like the 180 classic. wonder why they reduced tank size possibly for some aerodynamics i assume.

only dissapointments theres no kick start option in case the battery dies

request for upside down forks to make it look unique

saw it on ndtv and looks good.

13th July 2006, 04:41	#121
Mpower Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 10,409 Thanked: 1,730 Times View My Garage	Ladies and Gentlemen, lets give a big hand Rajiv Bajaj for bringing this bike to Indians. Its a lot of effort for a Indian company like Bajaj to bring all this tech to us, where as companies like Yamaha/Honda which have awesome products in their portfolio give us only boring stuff. It may not have the solid big bike feel due to the puny P150 chassis but the tire and fork will help. Interesting points. No kickstarter at all and exposed chain. Last edited by Mpower : 13th July 2006 at 04:45.
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13th July 2006, 05:05	#122
v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR / DXB / LON Posts: 5,334 Thanked: 6,896 Times View My Garage	I don't know, Mpower, I just don't know. How expensive is it to have FI on a bike? Does it justify a 1 lakh price tag? I hope you realise that this means any customer now HAS to take his bike to the Bajaj service folk. Very few standalone garages/mechanics can afford electronics to read and diagnose electronic systems, as I'm sure this bike will use. Still, Bajaj HAS pioneered this in the Indian market, and for what it's worth, I appreciate that.
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13th July 2006, 08:51	#123
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	wasnt it supposed to be oil cooled or so? nice find Techno Last edited by jkdas : 13th July 2006 at 08:53.
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13th July 2006, 10:16	#125
Technocrat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: GTA Posts: 14,813 Thanked: 2,700 Times	@jkdas: Thanks Mate.. btw it IS oil cooled
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13th July 2006, 13:30	#127
islero Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chennai Posts: 1,574 Thanked: 13 Times View My Garage	This bike needs bigger tyres so badly. They shouldnt care about reducing mileage: it looks so awkard on those skinny-looking tyres!! Fatter and larger dia rear tyres along with fatter front one will completley transform the looks. So anyone buying this bike, you knwo what mod you have to do first.
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13th July 2006, 13:39	#128
Rtech Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,770 Thanked: 359 Times View My Garage	120 section rubber is more than enough for 20bhp (at the crank that to!).
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14th July 2006, 09:25	#129
rejika Newbie Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20 Thanked: Once	Have a look at the Business standard motoring article. He predicts a price tag of 92K and says this motrocycle is going to be a commecial success. http://bsmotoring.com/2006/jul08_1.htm
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14th July 2006, 09:58	#130
turbo_v12 BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Thane Posts: 457 Thanked: Once View My Garage	Kudos to Bajaj for all the new technology being deployed. P.S. Is a 230 mm rear disc necessary? Even SBKs I think have 220 mm rear discs with so much power at the rear wheel..
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14th July 2006, 22:51	#132
Steeroid Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: N.A Posts: 7,046 Thanked: 2,751 Times	Thanks Rahul for the Fuel Injection, the rear Discs, the Projector beam, the Oil cooling, the Front Forks, the snazzy electricals and display and for the attempt at breaking the Great Indian FE Obsession. However, 20bhp is little too less and the bike's styling is rather forced, almost like you were trying hard to be different. I'm sure you could've done better. Kudos anyway, and hope this will be a commercial success. Enough to warrant a more adventurous excursion into 'performance'.
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14th July 2006, 23:42	#133
BUSA Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,130 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	One more feature is there, self cancelling indicators like cars and also scratch resistant petrol tank.
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15th July 2006, 17:22	#134
speedsatya Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: bangalore/manga Posts: 3,169 Thanked: 738 Times View My Garage	55w Headlights also .....this is one thing thats needed on all indian bikes .....other bikes have useless 35 w headlights ...as if bike makers are doing some favour by giving headlights ....only teh caliber had 40 w headlights
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16th July 2006, 10:54	#135
2fast4u BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: pune / Bahrain Posts: 488 Thanked: 7 Times View My Garage	so this bike will sure give future comet imports a run for its money. the bike looks cool and lets hope the handling is like the 180 classic. wonder why they reduced tank size possibly for some aerodynamics i assume. only dissapointments theres no kick start option in case the battery dies request for upside down forks to make it look unique saw it on ndtv and looks good. Last edited by 2fast4u : 16th July 2006 at 10:55.
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