[sunnyman_46]

Originally Posted by sgiitk

Let me add Honda petrol engines as a class are high revving, with poor low end torque!! So this is true across all cars. We have Brio, Amaze, City and Civic in the family and are quite used to it.

This isn't that low torque issue for sure. This is happening after completing 22000Kms in July 2015. I have had no such issues since I started by ride with Brio 2 years back.

[jayguar]

I'm planning to change the tyres in my Brio. Currently they are stock (MRF ZVTV) with the stock alloy wheels. I'm looking for a better ride quality and good grip. I do not want to change my alloys. What size can I upgrade to without changing the alloys?

[Metallicar]

Originally Posted by jayguar

I'm planning to change the tyres in my Brio. Currently they are stock (MRF ZVTV) with the stock alloy wheels. I'm looking for a better ride quality and good grip. I do not want to change my alloys. What size can I upgrade to without changing the alloys?

You can go for Michelin XM2 in either 175/65/14 (original size of Brio) or 185/65/14. I recently got 185/65 and I am happier now. Sound noise is decreased and there is comfort improvement too. I am not sure about the handling and all.

175/65 were being sold for Rs. 4300 a piece and 185/65 for Rs. 4400. Hardly 1% error with 185/65 ones. These prices included wheel balancing etc etc.

[jayguar]

Originally Posted by Metallicar

You can go for Michelin XM2 in either 175/65/14 (original size of Brio) or 185/65/14. I recently got 185/65 and I am happier now. Sound noise is decreased and there is comfort improvement too. I am not sure about the handling and all.

175/65 were being sold for Rs. 4300 a piece and 185/65 for Rs. 4400. Hardly 1% error with 185/65 ones. These prices included wheel balancing etc etc.

Thank you for the reply. How about 195/60/14?

[reignofchaos]

Originally Posted by jayguar

Thank you for the reply. How about 195/60/14?

I am using 195/60 r14 zlo in my brio since day one. Fantastic grip and cornering. Steering weighs up substantially which helps and there is less body roll. Fuel efficiency obviously does reduce but I never really cared about the 1km/l. The dynamic changes completely transform the car. Highly recommended.

The tyre lasts very long too. My car has done for 30k km and there is still a lot of tread left. It will easily last 50k. Also touch wood - no punctures so far.

[jayguar]

How are the MRF ZLO when compared to Michelin XM2 for 195/60/14 both in terms of ride quality and grip? This should make me finalize between the two.

[sunnyman_46]

Originally Posted by sunnyman_46

This isn't that low torque issue for sure. This is happening after completing 22000Kms in July 2015. I have had no such issues since I started by ride with Brio 2 years back.

Today tried with another fuel injectors and my brio showing the same symptoms.... :(

[NiInJa]

This isn't that low torque issue for sure. This is happening after completing 22000Kms in July 2015. I have had no such issues since I started by ride with Brio 2 years back.

It is not that problem. That is because Brio has got low end torque.

This happens even while overtaking and in traffic signals. In flat surfaces as well.

I too face the same issue since day one. Honda service said there is nothing wrong with it. I have got used to it now as it is not a major issue once you know.
I think it has got something to do with the ECU or throttle related electronics. Our old MPFI zen had the same issue when the Maruti Service person told us that some of these fuel injected cars are sluggish to respond to quick acceleration at parking speeds (depressing the accelerator pedal fast). He even showed me when the car is parked, depressing the accelerator hard and quick delayed the rise in rpms by a second or so, also it wasn't as rapid as motorcycle's, it rises gently.
The trick is to know that sudden hard throttle inputs at very low rpms are useless in case of Brio, press the pedal gently and wait for it to rise. On steep slopes, use the handbrakes often and don't let the rpms fall below 1500 when climbing uphills (situation is worse with AC on). Also note that when the engine is cold, you will feel the acceleration a little bit dragged and a couple of misfires. Wait for the engine to warm up.

[sunnyman_46]

No this is not an issue with the low torque which you seems to be mentioning.

The problem is like the accelerator doesn't respond in certain times when even stamped. You see no rise in rpm and in that instance when clutch and accelerator are together pressed, the car doesn't even make a noise of accelerating or move...A scenario of pressing the throttle down with the car ignition turned off.

[ashwin489]

Originally Posted by kaveman

@msmatic, @Sankar
The Brio comes with a dust & pollen filter [if this is what you are referring to] & is accessed from the glove box.
The manual has instructions to clean / replace this filter.

Well, the manual also states at the bottom of the page that it is available only on certain models. I checked on my VX AT and it is just sealed shut.

So, it is safe to assume that the Indian Brio doesn't come with a pollen filter. Yet another crappy cheapskate move by Honda.

[AnInternetUser]

Went to Honda's service center and they said it would cost approximately 7200++ for the major service. I have the E.S.S. package and haven't been asked to pay this much in the 3 years of ownership. The car has run 17400kms. Is this amount reasonable? I'd really appreciate it if someone would help me.

[rokindotnish]

@AnInternetUser, which Honda car is it?

[AnInternetUser]

Originally Posted by rokindotnish

@AnInternetUser, which Honda car is it?

Brio SMT. The service center in question here is Krish Motors near Veera Desai Road, Mumbai.

[sgiitk]

Originally Posted by AnInternetUser

Went to Honda's service center and they said it would cost approximately 7200++ for the major service.

Looks too high. The only time I paid close to that amount was when I had an AC refill on my Civic along with service 7 synthetic oil. They must be trying to add various options like Teflon, Undertaking Valeting etc.

[AnInternetUser]

Originally Posted by sgiitk

Looks too high. The only time I paid close to that amount was when I had an AC refill on my Civic along with service 7 synthetic oil. They must be trying to add various options like Teflon, Undertaking Valeting etc.

Oh. I just got off the phone with them. The bill amount is 6598 including everything and after all discounts. I'll ask for a complete breakdown as it seems high since I've already bought the E.S.S. Thanks for your reply