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Old 2nd November 2020, 10:54   #451
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Does anyone know what the problem is? The car has run 44,000 km.
Does the car show any indication light (Engine check, ODB fault)?

You should ask your Renault ASC to swap out the part that costs 1.2 Lac and demonstrate to you that the problem has been solved. The high value items that might be the culprit in the situation you describe could be:
  • Fuel pump
  • Fuel injectors
  • Turbocharger
  • Clutch + Flywheel + related parts
  • ECM
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Old 2nd November 2020, 16:24   #452
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As you have mentioned, the clutch alone will not cost 1.2L. There is something major which needs replacement.

Did your mechanic change the flywheel along with the whole clutch kit? That entire job with labour may well be 70,000.

Clearly, since the problem still exists, something else is still broken.
The mechanic has checked once again and found out that the problem is with the fuel pump. The whole tank needs to be replaced and has quoted 70k + labour.

Easier flywheel and whole clutch kit was replaced
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Does the car show any indication light (Engine check, ODB fault)?

You should ask your Renault ASC to swap out the part that costs 1.2 Lac and demonstrate to you that the problem has been solved. The high value items that might be the culprit in the situation you describe could be:
  • Fuel pump
  • Fuel injectors
  • Turbocharger
  • Clutch + Flywheel + related parts
  • ECM
There was an indication light, but it comes and goes. When checked in the manual it tells to stop the car and take it to service station. Some major problem.

The mechanic has found that the fuel pump needs replacement. Hope this solves the issue. it is another bomb. 70k + labour
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The mechanic has found that the fuel pump needs replacement. Hope this solves the issue. it is another bomb. 70k + labour
Just check this link

https://oriparts.com/35/195/1381/419683#item_9033188

Neither the fuel tank nor the pump cost 70K+. Alternatively, if it is just the pump, they should be able to replace just that.

There is another high pressure fuel pump near the engine which feeds the injectors. That is an expensive part.

https://oriparts.com/35/195/1381/428026

Click on the red 'Buy' link to see the market price of the spares.

What did the trusted source from outside the ASC do to your car for 70K? Flywheel and clutch replacement was not required for a vehicle with 44k on the ODO.

Leaving that aside, it is better you log this case with the customer care of Renault so that it is taken seriously by the dealer and not just brushed aside like the recent fleecing these guys have started after 4-5 months of running the workshop with poor revenues.

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The mechanic has found that the fuel pump needs replacement. Hope this solves the issue. it is another bomb. 70k + labour
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Neither the fuel tank nor the pump cost 70K+. Alternatively, if it is just the pump, they should be able to replace just that.

There is another high pressure fuel pump near the engine which feeds the injectors. That is an expensive part.

What did the trusted source from outside the ASC do to your car for 70K? Flywheel and clutch replacement was not required for a vehicle with 44k on the ODO.
I had a feeling it was the fuel pump (something to do with fuel delivery) from your specific symptoms, rather than the clutch. Yes they did change the clutch & flywheel, but I think if the issue was diagnosed correctly at the beginning, you could’ve tried replacing the fuel pump first, before moving onto the clutch.

Why does the fuel tank need to be changed? That doesn’t make any sense. Even if its dirty/clogged/contaminated, it can be cleaned & re-used. Is it cracked/broken in any way? The tank itself costs 28,714 + labour (OEM) - https://boodmo.com/catalog/part-172028941r-32584287/

Do you often run the car low on fuel before refuelling? It may sound odd, but fuel is actually used to lubricate the fuel pump inside the tank, so if you run the vehicle on fumes, it can prematurely burn out the fuel pump.

Change the fuel filter first (2,888 for the OEM filter) - https://boodmo.com/catalog/part-164039594r-32583446/ before changing the pump itself.

To save some $$$, it may be worthwhile searching for just the OEM fuel pump (if you can), rather than replacing the entire fuel pump assembly consisting of the pump, float & sending unit.

Lastly, I think it may be time for you to start a search for a new FNG just to get a good initial diagnosis/second opinion on things.

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Just had a talk with the mechanic. He says Clutch and flywheel was replaced because the flywheel was rusted and there was problem with the clutch. They didn't suspect any other problem.
Now after checking, they found out that the high pressure pump is spoilt and needs replacement. He assures me that the car will be as good as new after this.
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I had a feeling it was the fuel pump (something to do with fuel delivery) from your specific symptoms, rather than the clutch. Yes they did change the clutch & flywheel, but I think if the issue was diagnosed correctly at the beginning, you could’ve tried replacing the fuel pump first, before moving onto the clutch.

Why does the fuel tank need to be changed? That doesn’t make any sense. Even if its dirty/clogged/contaminated, it can be cleaned & re-used. Is it cracked/broken in any way? The tank itself costs 28,714 + labour (OEM) - https://boodmo.com/catalog/part-172028941r-32584287/

Do you often run the car low on fuel before refuelling? It may sound odd, but fuel is actually used to lubricate the fuel pump inside the tank, so if you run the vehicle on fumes, it can prematurely burn out the fuel pump.

Change the fuel filter first (2,888 for the OEM filter) - https://boodmo.com/catalog/part-164039594r-32583446/ before changing the pump itself.

To save some $$$, it may be worthwhile searching for just the OEM fuel pump (if you can), rather than replacing the entire fuel pump assembly consisting of the pump, float & sending unit.

Lastly, I think it may be time for you to start a search for a new FNG just to get a good initial diagnosis/second opinion on things.
I do wait till the low fuel indicator shows up before refueling.
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This looks like a very severe replacement considering the car's mileage and age. Even cars with triple this mileage shouldn't require this. I hope you get all this sorted out at the company's expense.
Also, 30k for an OEM fuel tank seems very expensive. Try contacting scrapyards who might have a cheaper unit. Also get a second and if needed a third opinion. Don't trust anyone when it comes to such a big expense.

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Just check this link

https://oriparts.com/35/195/1381/419683#item_9033188

Neither the fuel tank nor the pump cost 70K+. Alternatively, if it is just the pump, they should be able to replace just that.

There is another high pressure fuel pump near the engine which feeds the injectors. That is an expensive part.

https://oriparts.com/35/195/1381/428026

Click on the red 'Buy' link to see the market price of the spares.

What did the trusted source from outside the ASC do to your car for 70K? Flywheel and clutch replacement was not required for a vehicle with 44k on the ODO.

Leaving that aside, it is better you log this case with the customer care of Renault so that it is taken seriously by the dealer and not just brushed aside like the recent fleecing these guys have started after 4-5 months of running the workshop with poor revenues.

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Nice link.
Why does it show two version of terrano(same for duster) , both from same year. Any idea which is the indian version?
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Just had a talk with the mechanic. He says Clutch and flywheel was replaced because the flywheel was rusted and there was problem with the clutch. They didn't suspect any other problem.
Now after checking, they found out that the high pressure pump is spoilt and needs replacement. He assures me that the car will be as good as new after this.
Was your car affected by a flood anytime in the past?

Flooded cars usually have their clutch plates stick to the flywheel when they are soaked in water. Also, there might be a possibility that water might have gone in the tank which might have made your high pressure pump go bad.

Did you ever get a Water in Fuel Filter warning on the dash?

Leakage in the fuel tank is difficult but possible and might be the reason why they are asking to change it.
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Why does it show two version of terrano(same for duster) , both from same year. Any idea which is the indian version?
The versions are different due to different updates to the cars. I usually go with HSM3 for my 110 PS Duster. I have not bought very expensive parts from the website either. The most I have spent was on the rear shocks. For high value parts, it is better to confirm the part number with the ASC where they enter your vehicle's VIN and get a list of the most updated parts compatible with your car.
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Happy to inform that the problem is solved. Have driven 150+ km without any issues. The problem was with the Hi pressure pump.

Spent about 1.5 lacs for the clutch pad, flywheel and the pump. As this was done outside the Renault service center the cost was reasonable. Renault was quoting 1.2 L just for the clutch pad and flywheel.
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