[avira_tk]

Originally Posted by jalanrishikesh

Hello everyone. I have the Carnival Premium 8Str model from 2020. We have driven it daily for about 29,500 km now.

Today suddenly without any warning light, the battery went dead and car could not start
Should this problem have been picked up in the routine service visit which was in July 2022?

Is there usually any warning?

The batteries can go dead without any warning in all modern cars, given the number of systems drawing power even when parked.

Didn't they give you a battery check readout paper during last service, along with the bill? That's the only way to find the battery condition.

[vsrikkanth]

My Carnival is close to 60k kms now, still running on stock battery, got the health checked @55k disc replacement work. Only during regular service they check the battery health, otherwise it's only on demand and chargeable.

[jalanrishikesh]

Originally Posted by avira_tk

The batteries can go dead without any warning in all modern cars, given the number of systems drawing power even when parked.

Didn't they give you a battery check readout paper during last service, along with the bill? That's the only way to find the battery condition.

Thanks. No they didn't. I didn't even know its given. When I called the service center, they said they don't give the report usually. But if, something is wrong in the report then they inform. I have asked them to give the old report to me if possible.

Do you usually get it from your service center?

[jalanrishikesh]

Originally Posted by vsrikkanth

My Carnival is close to 60k kms now, still running on stock battery, got the health checked @55k disc replacement work. Only during regular service they check the battery health, otherwise it's only on demand and chargeable.

Ok thanks. My car came with Amaron Go so this time too I have installed the same as we didn't have enough time. The local repair guy charged me Rs 7,500 with the exchange value (GST Incl.) for the Amaron Go 80AH. It comes with 2 year warranty.

[avira_tk]

Originally Posted by jalanrishikesh

Thanks. No they didn't. I didn't even know its given. When I called the service center, they said they don't give the report usually. But if, something is wrong in the report then they inform. I have asked them to give the old report to me if possible.

Do you usually get it from your service center?

I have a sonet, last time it went for a brake repair job, they gave this song with the receipt.

[jalanrishikesh]

Originally Posted by avira_tk

I have a sonet, last time it went for a brake repair job, they gave this song with the receipt.

Thats great. Will ask them for the same next time.

[rrsteer]

Originally Posted by rrsteer

My Kia Carnival is now about 20 months old and has covered about 34.5k kms. I have had some great moments with the car and at the same time a lingering issue has put a dampener on my ownership experience.

Time for the 40K and two years ownership update.

Will cover the update in two parts. The first part will be about the 40K service experience and in the second part will update about the car in general.

Part 1: The 40k service

1) The dealer's customer service team worked overtime harassing me to bring the car for service. When I did, found my booking was not recorded in the ledger and so ended up being treated like a drop-in with no prior booking.

2) Apart from regular service, additional request from my side were: 1) DON'T touch the wheel alignment/ balancing (I am entitled to free wheel balancing/ alignment once a year) 2) DON'T wash the car (I do the job 10 times better + the cramped washing area doesn't give me the confidence that the car will come out of it without getting hit + I want to keep unknowns from driving my car to a minimum). But, inspite of repeated reminders, they ended up washing the car.

4) A Whatsapp group was created for the service, but absolutely no updates were provided, until i asked for it a couple of times. In the end and as if to taunt me, just one update picture was shared - the car hoisted on the lift!

5) Just a month back I got my 12 year old Etios serviced at the Toyota dealership - incidentally just opposite the Kia dealership. They arguably handle more volume and were attending to a 12 year old discontinued, cheapest model launched by them. But it was a totally satisfying, no fuss experience. In this case, dropped the car (their most expensive model at launch) for service, was promised delivery by 6pm, no updates were provided till 5.30pm, after which it was informed the car could be delivered only the next day. Next day, there were again no updates. From the advisor to the CRM head, all were unresponsive. Finally spoke to the GM service, who got the balls rolling and had the car ready by 2pm.

6) Given my perception of the way the dealership is managed, the folks who work there and the cramped spaces, I am always apprehensive of leaving the car for service. Unfortunately, this time my fears came true. The car was delivered with the front bumper lip unhinged from the main bumper frame. Such are my expectation levels from the dealership, I was almost relieved it was nothing major. But, credit where its due, they immediately agreed to repair it - no questions asked.

7) Finally ending with a happy note. The 40k service cost me just Rs 827/-, and even that was for a new number plate frame and urea top up. The service costs are covered under 5 year service pack which I got at a hugely discounted rate at the time of buying the car.

Some pictures from the service experience:

First up, the hit job by the dealer.


At the dealer, the cars go up a very narrow ramp and make successive extremely narrow hairpin turns to reach the service area which is at the third floor of the building. They have a specialist driver to take the Carnivals up there.


Look at all the cars. The washing area is not visible, but on the left side of where the cars are parked at the end. Very cramped and a disaster of a planning effort.


The sole update (in the form of a picture) I received on the Whatsapp group. It's so sad, it makes me laugh.


Dealership owner's Porsche Taycan. Didn't like the car's looks - looked too bulbous from the front and front side.

Part 2: My Ownership Experience

My ownership is aptly depicted by the below chart. I am currently in the slope of enlightenment phase, feeling quite satisfied with the car. Finally, can start to visualise a long (10+ years) ownership period with it.



Premature tyre wear was a leading marker of my 'trough of disillusionment' phase. It hampered my ownership experience almost since I purchased the car. The 'issue' itself is quite widespread. I spotted premature tyre wear in all the Carnivals stationed at the dealership this time. But of course mine was an exception, and all thanks to Team-Bhp and in particular these two gents @ss-traveller and @zeng. More details available in this thread. (Kia Carnival - Peculiar issue of only the rear tyres wearing off)

The present condition of the LHS rear tyre. The new tyre (put at ~30k) had worn somewhat by 34k, but since then premature wear has been arrested.


There were 3 Carnivals at the dealers. Each had worn off rear tyres. An example below.


If I discount the above issue, otherwise in the 40k kms of running and 2 years of ownership I have not faced any mechanical troubles or heard unwanted noises or seen unwanted lights. It drives tight and like new.

Before I end the update on the car, and I have mentioned this before but will repeat again, I am still surprised how fuel efficient the car has turned out for me. Believe it or not, it's the most efficient car we have right now. The relatively high figures are a result of it being mostly highway driven + driven at steady speeds between 90kmph and 110kmph + engine braking. Even so, an overall fuel consumption figure approaching 13 kmpl for a 2 ton/200 bhp car is worth applauding, I think.




In other news, have added a couple of accessories for the car:

1) A folding solar panel + rechargeable battery. This enables me to play TV in the car for kids when parked without using the car battery. I land up in such situations often, so this was much needed.


2) Got a car window net - again very useful when the car is parked and you want the windows rolled down, but need some sort of a screen.


One final picture, and that's it. Hopefully will post the next update at @50k. Cheers!

[BhayanaV]

Though enough has been said in the reviews, how is your experience with ground clearance in day to day usage.

[jalanrishikesh]

@rrster: Nice review.

I have a Carnival Premium 8 str. Went for 5th service at 30K Kms in July which was paid. Completed 3 years.

The Right side mirror motor was not working for last 1 year. We go to Bhavna Kia, in Turbhe , Navi Mumbai. The previous advisor used to say it will take more than a day and will have to keep the car at the service center. Now i realise he was trying to discounrage us.

The new advisor we had this time said it will be replaced in warranty and will only take a few hours. The ordered the part and called us for replacement. I had totally forgotten that car was in warranty and that mirror motor can be covered.

Our front tyres seem to be degrading faster. Or right side front tyre was replaced few months back. Maybe it had 1 or 2 punctures repairs too previously. These are the MRF tyres that came with the car. Asked the Kia service center, they said the left one is not required to be changed and put it in the back and the back tyre in the front.

The car is otherwise working well. The AC is good and much better than our previous Innova. The only other problem is the automatic door on the left sometimes does not unlock or open when automatically unlocked after putting in parking mode.

It has to be unlocked manually and then opened or opened with the center console button on the top in front of the car.

Originally Posted by BhayanaV

Though enough has been said in the reviews, how is your experience with ground clearance in day to day usage.

No issues with ground clearance in Mumbai and Navi Mumbai. Unless your speed breakers are unusually high, theres no problem even with a fully loaded car.

[rrsteer]

Originally Posted by BhayanaV

Though enough has been said in the reviews, how is your experience with ground clearance in day to day usage.

I have never had problems with ground clearance. At the same, I am always extra careful while driving this car. E.g driving over steep ramps, I expect the front bumper to brush the surface, so I will approach the ramp sideways first.

Originally Posted by jalanrishikesh

@rrster: Nice review.

I have a Carnival Premium 8 str. Went for 5th service at 30K Kms in July which was paid. Completed 3 years.

The only other problem is the automatic door on the left sometimes does not unlock or open when automatically unlocked after putting in parking mode.

It has to be unlocked manually and then opened or opened with the center console button on the top in front of the car.

Heartening to know that your ownership has been relatively trouble free. Regarding the front tyres, I'd say be watchful, as I believe thats pre-mature wear. The sliding doors do develop issues, similar incidents are frequently reported in other markets too where it was sold. But did the issue not get resolved in the 3rd service?

[Vsh06]

Hey!
I know it's been a while since this thread was active but I couldn't find any other threads related to the Carnival so posting it here and hoping for suggestions!

Our Carnival is due for its 30k service and tire change. What I need help with are the tires.

The stock MRF's are good but I would like to know if any of you have tired different brands and what works best for the carnival

Thanks and looking forward for the invaluable suggestions and advice.

[vsrikkanth]

Hi, I use Bridgestone Ecopia 850. In the budget range it's better than MRF Wanderer. But Michelin, continental or pirelli are the suggested one's for performance. I get Bridgestone for 15k per tire, continental, Michelin and pirelli costs about 22k..

[jalanrishikesh]

Originally Posted by rrsteer

I have never had problems with ground clearance. At the same, I am always extra careful while driving this car. E.g driving over steep ramps, I expect the front bumper to brush the surface, so I will approach the ramp sideways first.



Heartening to know that your ownership has been relatively trouble free. Regarding the front tyres, I'd say be watchful, as I believe thats pre-mature wear. The sliding doors do develop issues, similar incidents are frequently reported in other markets too where it was sold. But did the issue not get resolved in the 3rd service?

No, it doesn't give issues at the service center .

[jalanrishikesh]

Hi guys, the reversing camera in our carnival base model has fogged up since last 6 to 8 months atleast and is not clearing up.

We have taken extended warranty plan which will expire in July next year. I wanted to know if the fogging issue could be repaired under warranty or do i need to pay for servicing it.

If high humidity or car washing is causing this then the problem is bound to repeat. Is there anything I can do to solve this myself without removing the camera?

[Vsh06]

Originally Posted by vsrikkanth

Hi, I use Bridgestone Ecopia 850. In the budget range it's better than MRF Wanderer. But Michelin, continental or pirelli are the suggested one's for performance. I get Bridgestone for 15k per tire, continental, Michelin and pirelli costs about 22k..

Thanks @vsrikkanth! I've read and heard that the side walls of the bridgestone's are weak and are prone to side wall punctures more often than not. Let me know how your experience has been with them considering that the carnival is wide.

Thanks