[jubingoel]

Originally Posted by trends2day

All Thar Diesel LXs come with MLD by default irrespective of what dealer says.

I beg to differ here. If you check the official Thar website, there are 2 variants clearly demarcated by Mahindra as Diesel 4WD with MLD and without.

[cool_dube]

Originally Posted by trends2day

All Thar Diesel LXs come with MLD by default irrespective of what dealer says

That is incorrect.

Originally Posted by jubingoel

If you check the official Thar website, there are 2 variants clearly demarcated by Mahindra as Diesel 4WD with MLD and without.

Correct!

[udy]

Originally Posted by cool_dube

That is incorrect.


Correct!

While this info is correct and shows up under the "Variants and Pricing" tab, when you try to book a 4x4 Diesel AT, only 3 variants show up with the Convertible Top only as one variant option, while the Hard Top has 2 options with the differentiator being the "OD" nomenclature. I have attached the screenshot here. Note: the waiting period is now showing up on the book online page and is showing to be 3-4 weeks for Diesel AT models.

Looking at the pricing from the earlier mentioned tab, looks like or guess the one without MLD is available only on the HT option. Or is there another variant option coming up?. This was so confusing as it is without nay clear information from Mahindra and this complicates it even more.

Btw, looks like Mahindra has silently increased the prices again as my AT D CT was Rs 16,19,900 ex-showroom when I bought it in October while now it is showing up as Rs 16,40,101, a difference of around Rs.21,000.

In fact when I had booked it in September it was 15,94,378 and the price at delivery was increased by around Rs 25,000. So the prices have gone up by around Rs 46,000 ex-showroom since September and if you add the TCS and Road Tax which are pro-rata, the price hike will be around Rs 60,000. One can only guess what the prices would be for the 5 door Thar when it is launched.

[trends2day]

This may be an update Mahindra is planning along with RWD models launch so it may have updated the website. Right now the booking page has listed 2 models with MLD only for diesel AT. You can compare the prices from info page and see.

If indeed they are launching 2 seperate versions - with MLD and without, my initial post information will no longer be useful as you will get the model you select. However during PDI or selecting car from dealer stockyard, to confirm if your vehicle has MLD or not, you can still check the rear axle housing for the MLD sticker as mentioned in my previous post.

[TheDonGogoi]

Originally Posted by trends2day

However during PDI or selecting car from dealer stockyard, to confirm if your vehicle has MLD or not, you can still check the rear axle housing for the MLD sticker as mentioned in my previous post.

Hi can you please give further details on how or where this sticker is placed? Want to check on my vehicle, mine is a petrol manual September manufactured. Although 90% of my use is on road I do take it off road and having. MLD would just provide a peace of mind in such situations.

[wooka]

The MLD can be installed from the regular part stock. It's 100% compatible. Should cost about 50k ish. The Mahindra Svc center should be able to do it.

I was at their Chennai Cheyyar facility last weekend and I have confirmed this for both the scorpio N and Thar RWD or 4x4 without MLD.

[ak10]

I have booked a Thar Petrol MT 4x4. Since MLD is removed from petrol model can someone please answer below queries

1. Does Petrol 4x4 Thar come with BLD that applies to both front and rear wheels?
2. If BLD is available on read wheels - does it allow RPM difference to go beyond 100rpm between two rear wheels to get the MLD actuated?
3. Is it still possible to fit MLD on petrol Thar?

[cool_dube]

Originally Posted by ak10

I have booked a Thar Petrol MT 4x4. Since MLD is removed from petrol model can someone please answer below queries

Responses inline:

Does Petrol 4x4 Thar come with BLD that applies to both front and rear wheels?

Yes, Thar 4x4 Petrol does come with BLD but only for the front axle, which has been the case with all Thar variants till date.

If BLD is available on read wheels - does it allow RPM difference to go beyond 100rpm between two rear wheels to get the MLD actuated?

BLD is not available for rear axle

Is it still possible to fit MLD on petrol Thar?

Yes, easy fit at ASC. Should cost around INR 40k.

[ph03n!x]

Originally Posted by cool_dube

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BLD is not available for rear axle

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Thar 4x2 has BLD in the rear axle, and I'm told that the non-MLD Thars have BLD on the rear axle too.

If that's the case, will be interesting to see how MLD and BLD coexists if we add MLD to one of the newer vehicles.

[Kosfactor]

Originally Posted by ph03n!x

Thar 4x2 has BLD in the rear axle, and I'm told that the non-MLD Thars have BLD on the rear axle too.

If that's the case, will be interesting to see how MLD and BLD coexists if we add MLD to one of the newer vehicles.

As far as I remember the LX model always had the BLD on both axles, the amount of slip it would allow will depend on the terrain so having an MLD or not ideally should not affect its function.

[shankar.balan]

Originally Posted by Kosfactor

As far as I remember the LX model always had the BLD on both axles, the amount of slip it would allow will depend on the terrain so having an MLD or not ideally should not affect its function.

You’re right.
Here is the snapshot of the relevant page of the original Thar digital Brochure from 2020.

[ak10]

Originally Posted by Kosfactor

As far as I remember the LX model always had the BLD on both axles, the amount of slip it would allow will depend on the terrain so having an MLD or not ideally should not affect its function.

This is where i am confused. I understand MLD is old school without any software wizardry which has its own merits. But if BLD and MLD coexist, at what point the BLD let one wheel spin so much as to allow MLD to function? I could not find any videos of new thar MLD functioning. Is it worth spending 40k on this as an additional fitment?

[Kosfactor]

Originally Posted by ak10

This is where i am confused. I understand MLD is old school without any software wizardry which has its own merits. But if BLD and MLD coexist, at what point the BLD let one wheel spin so much as to allow MLD to function? I could not find any videos of new thar MLD functioning. Is it worth spending 40k on this as an additional fitment?

Jeeps have been doing lot of work off-road with just open differential, picking the correct line , using the pedal modulations the drivers had managed very well. However recreational off-road driving can certainly help with having a locking mechanism or off-road spec traction control etc.

If you are going to do lot of trail driving or participate in Mahindra's events it may be useful , else skip it.

BLD would intervene based on the conditions, it will allow wheel slip if that is what is required to keep the vehicle moving like sand for instance and limit wheel slip in say ice or slippery surface etc. BLD works in low range too.

[ph03n!x]

Originally Posted by Kosfactor

As far as I remember the LX model always had the BLD on both axles, the amount of slip it would allow will depend on the terrain so having an MLD or not ideally should not affect its function.

I don't think the 2020 manufactured Thars had BLD in the rear axle - a friend's Dec '20 Thar LX had his MLD give up (wear & tear, primarily used it for offroads), and there was no braking when the wheel was spinning to glory, needed to be towed out.

Originally Posted by shankar.balan

You’re right.
Here is the snapshot of the relevant page of the original Thar digital Brochure from 2020.

The same brochure also says that the Thar comes with a security alarm, doesn't it

[shankar.balan]

Originally Posted by ph03n!x

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The same brochure also says that the Thar comes with a security alarm, doesn't it

Oh Lord I forgot about that. Clearly there is some kind of disconnect or oversight or plain untruth!

Wonder why M&M is so sloppy in these matters.