[kapursaket]

Originally Posted by abhishek_hch

With me and 2 other people in tow, I checked out the back seat space in various CSUVs today. Seltos was the best, next was Astor and the German cousins were the worst. Heck, even the backseat of Sonet felt more comfortable for 3 people. Amongst the two German cousins, the three of us felt that Kushaq was a tad better than Taigun.

Had extended test drives of the 1.5 DSG versions of both the Kushaq and Taigun today. The Kushaq drive was an extended one of 40 KMs on the Bangalore Airport highway. The engine is a dream. It's now between the heart & the mind - mind says 1.0 AT, heart says 1.5 DSG.

1.0L is a marvelous piece Technology and a receiver of International Oscar for engines.

[eccentric]

Originally Posted by abhishek_hch

It's now between the heart & the mind - mind says 1.0 AT, heart says 1.5 DSG.

Insisting you to listen to your heart. Being a 4 cylinder mill, the engine load(stress) acting on each cylinders would be less when compared with the 1.0 TSI. In layman's perspective, imagine a weight(engine load) distributed across 4 bricks(1.5 TSI with 4 cylinders) versus 3 bricks(1.0 TSI with 3 cylinders).

Also, I must admit that am a sucker for imported stuff and since the 1.5 TSI is an imported one, I'd vouch for that.

Note: The longevity of the DSG and the ACT are yet to be known.

[CrAzY dRiVeR]

Originally Posted by kapursaket

1.0L is a marvelous piece Technology and a receiver of International Oscar for engines.

I guess you mean the international engine of the year awards. 1.0 TSi won the award for the up! where it is good enough to achieve a 0 to 100 performance time of 8.6 seconds to 100. Kushaq is no lightweight up! and needs the 1.5 to comes closer to that performance.

1.0 is one of the best entry level motors, no doubt, but enthusiasts should look at the 1.5 TSi DSG IMHO if budget permits. As per the ACI tests, the 1.0 AT takes 13.16 seconds to 100, whereas the 1.5 DSG does it in 9.54 seconds. Not only that - it is more fuel efficient as well, with an ARAI certified figure of 17.71 against 15.78kmpl.

The main reason to get the 1.0 AT would be budget (since it is available in cheaper Ambition variant) and the fear of that DQ200 gearbox. Else it is truly the 1.5 TSi that comes across as a marvelous piece of technology - being almost 4 seconds quicker to 100, and near 2kmpl more efficient too.

[kapursaket]

Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR

I guess you mean the international engine of the year awards. 1.0 TSi won the award for the up! where it is good enough to achieve a 0 to 100 performance time of 8.6 seconds to 100. Kushaq is no lightweight up! and needs the 1.5 to comes closer to that performance.

1.0 is one of the best entry level motors, no doubt, but enthusiasts should look at the 1.5 TSi DSG IMHO if budget permits. As per the ACI tests, the 1.0 AT takes 13.16 seconds to 100, whereas the 1.5 DSG does it in 9.54 seconds. Not only that - it is more fuel efficient as well, with an ARAI certified figure of 17.71 against 15.78kmpl.

The main reason to get the 1.0 AT would be budget (since it is available in cheaper Ambition variant) and the fear of that DQ200 gearbox. Else it is truly the 1.5 TSi that comes across as a marvelous piece of technology - being almost 4 seconds quicker to 100, and near 2kmpl more efficient too.

Majority buyers are not enthusiasts and do not need to accelerate from 0-100 in city traffic or even highways. 1.0L gives good power to weight ratio and gives enough strength to wriggle in bumper to bumper metro city traffic by burning less fossil fuel. My FE on highways whopping 21.4Km/L.

[Rajeevraj]

Originally Posted by abhishek_hch

The engine is a dream. It's now between the heart & the mind - mind says 1.0 AT, heart says 1.5 DSG.

I would say definitely go with the heart. The DSG+ TSI combo is really something else. I have been driving a Vento with the 1.2tsi + DSG combo for 8 years now and the only reason the thought of an upgrade does not come into my mind is the tsi+DSG combo. Obviously the 1.5 TSI will be another step up.

The additional money you pay now will be compensated by the fact that you would keep the car an additional couple of years atleast because you will never get bored of the combo and ultimately that is what matters.

This would be my advice to all folks on the fence between the 1.5 and 1.0. Only caveat- Willingness to take that small risk associated with the DQ200 DSG.

[abhishek_hch]

Originally Posted by Rajeevraj

This would be my advice to all folks on the fence between the 1.5 and 1.0. Only caveat- Willingness to take that small risk associated with the DQ200 DSG.

Couldn't agree more that the TSI+DSG combination is awesome to say the least. However, with all these horror stories of DQ200 that we have plus the fact that Bangalore ORR doesn't look like it's going to be in a good shape in foreseeable future (that's where the daily commute will be), cast a shadow of doubt in the mind.

[CrAzY dRiVeR]

Originally Posted by kapursaket

Majority buyers are not enthusiasts

Wonder how many non-enthusiasts would buy a Kushaq? By being active on this forum, or even social media or watching reviews etc - we are all enthusiasts anyways. The OP sure looks like one, since his heart is in the right place.

To me - the reasons to buy the Kushaq are - 1. Powertrains, especially the 1.5 even though the 1.0 is also competent among entry level options from rivals and 2. The supposed safety factor (and hopefully Global NCAP tests one MQB-A0-IN product soon - and there are rumours of the Slavia getting tested).

Those who have priorities elsewhere have other options in the market. People will the above priorities are most likely to be enthusiasts IMHO.

Originally Posted by kapursaket

by burning less fossil fuel. My FE on highways whopping 21.4Km/L.

Believe you drive a manual 1.0 Ambition? The difference between a 1.5 DSG and 1.0 AT is more drastic than between 1.5 and 1.0 MT variants - due to the very nature of a torque converter transmission. Major differentiator is the upfront costs and fear of DQ200 maintenance issues.

Fuel efficiency too is much better in the 1.5 DSG.

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Originally Posted by kapursaket

I believe Kushaq 1.5L is mated with fourth-generation DQ400 gearbox.

That's a wrong belief. It's the infamous DQ200 itself doing duty in the Kushaq.

[omranga98]

Mod Note: Post deleted. Please do not propogate fake news on Team-bhp.

[volkman10]

Originally Posted by volkman10

Skoda Auto India reports a drop in September sales as compared to last month.
The company sells 3027 units as compared to the 3829 reported last month.
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Skoda reports sales of 3065 units in October. Relatively a flat growth when compared to Sept.

Have Kushaq's volumes dropped further or VW has a growth story with Taigun?


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[abhi_ank]

Hello all,
I am new to the forum. Can anyone confirm whether or not the seat covers and alloy wheels of the style variant can be availed as an official accessory for the ambition variant?
Thanks in advance

[swiftdiesel]

Originally Posted by omranga98

I think you are right. Here is a screengrab from my Samsung TV screen. Hope this helps

That screengrab from your Samsung TV seems to have swapped the number 2 for 4: DQ200 to DQ400. I zoomed the picture and this is what I noticed: a nice photoshop edit -- the number 4 does not blend in with the screengrab.

Further proof: Look at the presenter's hand gesture - it can't be the same for 2 different screens if they were different.

[Shreyas_H]

Originally Posted by kapursaket

I believe Kushaq 1.5L is mated with fourth-generation DQ400 gearbox.

No, it uses the same old DQ200 that has been doing duties in everything from the earlier Polo to the older Octavia / Superb.

The DQ400 is a wet clutch, 6 speed gearbox that is not sold on any car in India.

[CrAzY dRiVeR]

Originally Posted by abhi_ank

Hello all,
I am new to the forum. Can anyone confirm whether or not the seat covers and alloy wheels of the style variant can be availed as an official accessory for the ambition variant?
Thanks in advance

Seat covers - no. Style variant gets ventilated seats and also airbags, which cannot be retrofitted on lower variants. However, Skoda offers leatherette seat covers for the lower variants in a different design. Prices range from 10,999 to 11,999 and also 17,999/- for suede covers.

Alloy wheels - yes. Had posted the details earlier in the thread.

Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR

Came to know from the dealership that the 17-inch alloys from the Style variant costs 8500/- per piece.

Active / Ambition owners wanting to upgrade should factor in the additional cost of tyres as well.

[GTO]

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Thanks for the support & understanding

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[volkman10]

Kushaq's October sales/dispatch number nosedives, does 2413. Volkswagen's Taigun is too in a similar number at 2551.

Contributes 79% and 83 % to the respective brands volumes.

Discounts in the offing ?



Source: Auto Punditz