New Honda City or Fiat Linea

ImmortalZ · 5th December 2008, 20:40

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oss · 5th December 2008, 23:07

As far as i know i have only seen & heard of timing gears when it comes to car engines. But i think an engineer from Bosch that has access to classified information will know better

srishiva · 5th December 2008, 23:20

With the discounts being offered by car makers, it would be interesting to see the pricing that Fiat would adhere to.

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theragingbull · 3rd January 2009, 20:43

Now that all details of the Linea are out, what do you guys recommend?
From what i've seen, here are the pros and cons of both the cars

Honda City 1.5S
Pros:
-stunning looks
-loads of space and great comfort
-powerful engine and fun to drive
-impressive fuel economy
Cons:
-no climate control
-interior quality not upto the mark
-skinny tyres and no alloy wheels,no fog lamps

Fiat Linea Emotion+
Pros:
-contemporary Italian styling
-great comfort and space
-plenty of equipment like auto climate control, Blue&Me, fog lamps,alloys etc.
-nice well laid out interiors
Cons
-rear headroom not enough for tall people
-underpowered engine for a car that big

SkyWalker · 4th January 2009, 20:11

@the ragingbull : Jan issue of Overdrive has a comparison on Linea vs ANHC. They have rated the Linea a little higher than the city due to a)better equipped b) very well priced c)diesel. They do maintain that the Honda has an upper hand when it comes to driving pleasure, power & refinement.

I am in your position, i am having a TD this month to decide which one. Unless the Linea tends to be really underpowered, i might buy that.

theragingbull · 5th January 2009, 14:25

thanks.I'll check out that issue.The only thing that'll deter me from buying the Fiat Linea is the bad after-sales service and expensive spares.

luky_13 · 5th January 2009, 14:32

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Originally Posted by theragingbull

thanks.I'll check out that issue.The only thing that'll deter me from buying the Fiat Linea is the bad after-sales service and expensive spares.

The issue would also be reliability of the vehicle, any new launch has initial teething problems. In regard to the cost of spares, Honda spares are'nt cheap either, one ends up paying through the nose.

ImmortalZ · 5th January 2009, 18:03

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Originally Posted by luky_13

The issue would also be reliability of the vehicle, any new launch has initial teething problems. In regard to the cost of spares, Honda spares are'nt cheap either, one ends up paying through the nose.

See, the great part about that is you won't need Honda spares very often unless you crash your car

abhim23 · 6th January 2009, 16:59

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See, the great part about that is you won't need Honda spares very often unless you crash your car

Same is true with FIAT cars as well, I own a Palio for the last 6 years and visit the service center only for routine service. not a single part has failed so far except for the rubber beading that came out once, fitted it back with the help of a local mechanic.

palioman · 8th January 2009, 00:50

Just checked out the Linea today at Fortune Cars in Andheri, they have the top end version Emotion on display. Initial impressions were very good, external build and the interiors are definitely better than the new Honda city that I also tried out.
This Fiat is built solid, it looks and feels substantial and expensive, attention to detail is very good for its price. Nifty touches abound, like in the boot there is a hook to lift the carpet and padding to retrieve the spare tyre, you can hook the support to the boot and then remove the spare unhindered.when not required this hook and strap acts as a tie down for any small stuff in the boot. The vanity mirrors have 2 lights each ! The internal door release handles feel built to last...I could go on. Needless to say I was impressed, however as an ex owner of one of the very first Palios ( currently running around in a Swift VDi), I will wait for 6 months and check out if Fiat has improved their A.S.S If so, then bye bye Swift, u lousy rattler ! And I agree with abhim23, the only things I changed in my Palio over 7 years were the tyres and the brake pads ! Paragon of reliability, and good thing to since the service centre was far away.

mxx · 9th January 2009, 17:28

trust me on this, honda products in India, is OVERPRICED. The previous honda city was was being sold for at least 50% premium. Mind you, I am comparing top of the line city which was sold here and abroad. The one sold abroad had much more features, including 7 speed automatic with paddle shift, and even then it cost 50% more here. This is too much considering city was not CBU or even CKD.
IMO, 50% premium is too much for a honda.

sj_koova · 9th January 2009, 17:56

Honda is always horribly over priced in India. I hate them only for that reason.
Not 50%, but at least 30% cost reduction will be justified.

ALHC looks good for sure, but still it does not make it to my wish list at all.

shantyrocks · 11th January 2009, 00:49

the linea might not be a road burner but it is decently powered and has good in gear acceleration timings which are better even than verna.

Guna · 11th January 2009, 10:27

I was looking for a new car and decided to go for City S-AT inspite of it's somewhat fragile build, low ground clearence, no so luxurious interiors etc. I knew that Linea probably is better in many aspects like build quality, feel of the interiors and features list. What made me not to consider Linea seriously is the choice of engines available. I also liked the futuristic looks of the City compared to the classic-retro derived styling of Linea.

5th December 2008, 20:40	#76
ImmortalZ Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 2,179 Thanked: 488 Times View My Garage	@fast lane, this is because you are currently a newbie. You'll need to hit the BHPian level to get full access to the forum. Please go read the Announcements forum and familiarize yourself with the rules before continuing.
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5th December 2008, 23:07	#77
oss BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chennai Posts: 683 Thanked: 6 Times	As far as i know i have only seen & heard of timing gears when it comes to car engines. But i think an engineer from Bosch that has access to classified information will know better
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5th December 2008, 23:20	#78
srishiva Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 4,375 Thanked: 2,256 Times	With the discounts being offered by car makers, it would be interesting to see the pricing that Fiat would adhere to.
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3rd January 2009, 20:43	#80
theragingbull Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 2,601 Thanked: 646 Times View My Garage	Now that all details of the Linea are out, what do you guys recommend? From what i've seen, here are the pros and cons of both the cars Honda City 1.5S Pros: -stunning looks -loads of space and great comfort -powerful engine and fun to drive -impressive fuel economy Cons: -no climate control -interior quality not upto the mark -skinny tyres and no alloy wheels,no fog lamps Fiat Linea Emotion+ Pros: -contemporary Italian styling -great comfort and space -plenty of equipment like auto climate control, Blue&Me, fog lamps,alloys etc. -nice well laid out interiors Cons -rear headroom not enough for tall people -underpowered engine for a car that big Last edited by theragingbull : 3rd January 2009 at 20:45.
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4th January 2009, 20:11	#81
SkyWalker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,531 Thanked: 136 Times	@the ragingbull : Jan issue of Overdrive has a comparison on Linea vs ANHC. They have rated the Linea a little higher than the city due to a)better equipped b) very well priced c)diesel. They do maintain that the Honda has an upper hand when it comes to driving pleasure, power & refinement. I am in your position, i am having a TD this month to decide which one. Unless the Linea tends to be really underpowered, i might buy that.
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5th January 2009, 14:25	#82
theragingbull Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 2,601 Thanked: 646 Times View My Garage	thanks.I'll check out that issue.The only thing that'll deter me from buying the Fiat Linea is the bad after-sales service and expensive spares.
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8th January 2009, 00:50	#86
palioman BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Dubai Posts: 53 Thanked: 2 Times	Just checked out the Linea today at Fortune Cars in Andheri, they have the top end version Emotion on display. Initial impressions were very good, external build and the interiors are definitely better than the new Honda city that I also tried out. This Fiat is built solid, it looks and feels substantial and expensive, attention to detail is very good for its price. Nifty touches abound, like in the boot there is a hook to lift the carpet and padding to retrieve the spare tyre, you can hook the support to the boot and then remove the spare unhindered.when not required this hook and strap acts as a tie down for any small stuff in the boot. The vanity mirrors have 2 lights each ! The internal door release handles feel built to last...I could go on. Needless to say I was impressed, however as an ex owner of one of the very first Palios ( currently running around in a Swift VDi), I will wait for 6 months and check out if Fiat has improved their A.S.S If so, then bye bye Swift, u lousy rattler ! And I agree with abhim23, the only things I changed in my Palio over 7 years were the tyres and the brake pads ! Paragon of reliability, and good thing to since the service centre was far away.
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9th January 2009, 17:28	#87
mxx BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 761 Thanked: 271 Times	trust me on this, honda products in India, is OVERPRICED. The previous honda city was was being sold for at least 50% premium. Mind you, I am comparing top of the line city which was sold here and abroad. The one sold abroad had much more features, including 7 speed automatic with paddle shift, and even then it cost 50% more here. This is too much considering city was not CBU or even CKD. IMO, 50% premium is too much for a honda. Last edited by mxx : 9th January 2009 at 17:31.
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9th January 2009, 17:56	#88
sj_koova BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 673 Thanked: 620 Times View My Garage	Honda is always horribly over priced in India. I hate them only for that reason. Not 50%, but at least 30% cost reduction will be justified. ALHC looks good for sure, but still it does not make it to my wish list at all.
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11th January 2009, 00:49	#89
shantyrocks BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: thane Posts: 741 Thanked: 5 Times	the linea might not be a road burner but it is decently powered and has good in gear acceleration timings which are better even than verna.
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11th January 2009, 10:27	#90
Guna Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 4,011 Thanked: 4,203 Times	I was looking for a new car and decided to go for City S-AT inspite of it's somewhat fragile build, low ground clearence, no so luxurious interiors etc. I knew that Linea probably is better in many aspects like build quality, feel of the interiors and features list. What made me not to consider Linea seriously is the choice of engines available. I also liked the futuristic looks of the City compared to the classic-retro derived styling of Linea.
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