Re: Suggestions for Team-BHP from Team-BHPians I've been debating with myself about this a long time but I think it needs to be said, and I understand these rules will be hard to implement, not in the least because of ambiguity.
Can we have some sort of new regulation on posts about safety and NCAP ratings? I've seen nearly every discussion about this get so heated that it severely impedes those who have actually something valuable to share. It's almost like a political discussion, manufacturers being the equivalent of political parties here.
There is also a lot of misinformation about the tests but in particular, I'm referring to posts offending people who choose to buy cars that don't have very high NCAP ratings, for example (I'm making these up for the sake of preserving the identity of the posters and also because it would need a lot of citations, but I'm fairly sure one can find similar ones on the forum):
"But of course our Indian buyers will only care about fuel efficiency"
"Those who buy <car> only care about bling and features"
"There are two types of people, some who value safety, driving dynamics and build quality and some who value fuel economy and reliability"
"Side and curtain airbags are useless when the bodyshell is unstable"
"A zero star car with a stable bodyshell is better than a four star car with an unstable bodyshell"
"<car1> has the same kerb mass as the one tested by Euro NCAP so it should score similarly in India"
"The body weld diagrams are the same so I can say with certainty that the Indian car will perform the same as the <other market> car"
"NCAP ratings are useless in the real world"
"I would rather buy <car1> than the tin can <car2>"
"The government should ban the sale of cars that score less than four stars"
If anyone is interested I am willing to explain why I believe each of the above statements should be avoided, but I'll try to keep this post concise for now (I'll agree that ship has sailed).
I think it's important that we keep in mind the role NCAPs play: to provide a platform for vehicle manufacturers to sell safety, to objectively inform consumers about vehicle safety, to promote healthy competition between manufacturers in the further development of safety and, in the case of some NCAPs, to use the power of the consumer to make sure manufacturers don't sell safer cars in some select markets only. NCAPs are not supposed to play a regulatory role, though they have to assume a pseudo-regulatory role in some poorly regulated markets at times. In India, regulation is now taken care of by ARAI's AIS crash test standards for homologation.
I believe that as a responsible forum we should promote the purchase of safer cars and continue to call out manufacturers who make safety compromises just for Indian consumers, but we shouldn't look down on those who purchase cars that we don't consider 'safe'.
Speaking of which, I think we should try and discourage the use of the words 'safe' and 'unsafe' and try to promote the use of the words 'safer' and 'less safe' instead, because it's upto the consumer to decide what they consider an acceptable level of safety. Admittedly, I will have a hard time making this switch but I think it's important nevertheless. There seems to be a general consensus that 4 stars and above is 'safe' and 3 stars and less is 'unsafe', which is a perfectly acceptable opinion to hold but I think it is up to each individual to decide what they consider acceptable.
Another related suggestion - can crash test results from all other NCAPs than Global NCAP's #SaferCarsforIndia programme, and Bharat NCAP (whenever it comes) be moved to The International Automotive Scene rather than Road Safety? (including but not limited to the thread I created on recent Latin NCAP results) This might help control misinformation about the validity of these results.
I posted this because I don't want to see a repeat of last November's thread on non-voluntary Global NCAP results during this month's results. (I think my posts on that thread weren't exactly 'nice' either)
A disclaimer: I am sometimes a hypocrite and might violate what I've said above on the forums. Like everyone I do have a soft corner for certain brands and find it hard to post in a completely neutral manner, but feel free to point this out. If I do have different expectations from different brands it's usually based on history. |