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Old 6th January 2024, 10:56   #17026
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Old 8th January 2024, 09:53   #17027
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So Rohit and Virat Kohli is back to T20 side and it’s look like Rohit will be the captain for the upcoming world cup too.
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So Rohit and Virat Kohli is back to T20 side and it’s look like Rohit will be the captain for the upcoming world cup too.
This was expected in my opinion given our lack of ICC silverware for many years now. And the fact these two gentlemen want a last hurrah with an ICC title win meant that they were going to be in contention to play one more time in T20s.

Given how BCCI works and how our cricketers are superstars, don't know if retirement plans have been discussed with either of them even if it takes 2-3 years for them to actually exit the playing eleven. I have the highest regard particularly these two legends and how they have elevated the game in their own ways over the years. But at the end of the day, they are human too and hopefully hang up their boots in time instead of becoming a pale still-playing shadow of their prime selves.

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I think it is a travesty to put Rohit and Virat in the same bucket in T20s.

Virat has been phenomenal in T20s internationally, especially in the World Cup.

Rohit, on the other hand, has been abysmal. Don't believe me, check out their records.
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And the fact these two gentlemen want a last hurrah with an ICC title win meant that they were going to be contention to play one more time in T20s.
Selectors should have moved on from Virat & Rohit in T20s! Rohit doesn't even deserve a place in the XI, yet he's been made Captain! At this rate Team is going to crash out in the 1st round itself. Virat's best & only position in this setup is as an opener. He struggles against spinners in the middle overs, WI pitches will be similar to India. To accommodate these legends, promising player like Yashasvi Jaiswal will have to miss out.

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Given how BCCI works and how our cricketers are superstars, don't know if retirement plans have been discussed with either of them even if it takes 2-3 years for them to actually exit the playing eleven.
Don't think taking retirement is an option in this format, as it affects their stakes & several other factors with their IPL franchisees.
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So Rohit and Virat Kohli is back to T20 side and it’s look like Rohit will be the captain for the upcoming world cup too.
So we will continue to loose, what a regressive step.

EspnCricinfo Has captured it nicely
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So we will continue to loose, what a regressive step.

EspnCricinfo Has captured it nicely
Kohli has been phenomenal in t20I and world cups especially. Rohit has been poor in both and even in IPL he has been poor since long.

However, I can understand this move a bit. With Hardik as usual injured when needed and even after coming back he can get another injury due to his glass body. Maybe selectors aren't confident enough to make him captain for world cup.

If Rohit clicks in Afghanistan series and performs in IPL he stays a Captain for world cup. Otherwise selectors may opt for SKY.

Anyways we shouldn't be bothered by all this. Our cup chances as usual are minimal. Let these guys do whatever they want. I don't have any expectations. T20 is worst format in performance for Indian team. I am looking forward to England tests.
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Okay, let's not forget that Rohit Sharma just had an ODI World Cup where he scored 597 runs at 126 SR. And he captained the team to the finals. Kohli had a remarkable tournament as well.

While it looks like a step back considering their age, it is hard to ignore them on current form. Also, they both are incredibly fit. Unless someone proves over the next year with super good performances in top order, they will be in the team.
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Okay, let's not forget that Rohit Sharma just had an ODI World Cup where he scored 597 runs at 126 SR. And he captained the team to the finals. Kohli had a remarkable tournament as well.

While it looks like a step back considering their age, it is hard to ignore them on current form. Also, they both are incredibly fit. Unless someone proves over the next year with super good performances in top order, they will be in the team.
There is no actual connection between his performance in ODI World cup and his t20 performance. Rohit was excellent in 2019 ODI world cup hitting 5 centuries. In fact 2019 was much better in terms of his performance than his 2023 world cup performance considering 2019 was in England. However, he still wasn't good enough in T20 after 2019 performance.

It's time we stop mixing formats to justify players inclusion and exclusion. Kohli is the only player in current Indian team who merits a place in all formats on the basis of his performance. Rest all have some or the other weaker format. Still if he is omitted from T20 squad I won't mind it cos he and Rohit had many chances to win the Cup in last 10 years and they haven't. Maybe give other younger guys a chance to do a repeat of 2007 t20 world cup win.

Test, T20 and ODI should have separate teams on basis of players performance in each format. We keep playing players in formats not suited for them and that's why keep making selection blunders in important tournaments resulting in no trophy.

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I believe Rohit has all but confirmed his opening position for T20 world cup. Also with his super over Bishnoi decision he may stay as Captain too.

Barring injury this should be the order-

Rohit
Kohli
SKY
Hardik
Rinku
Another batter/all rounder
Keeper
Axar
Kuldeep/bishnoi/Jadeja
Shami/Siraj
Bumrah

If Hardik plays then spots are open for a batter and keeper depending on whose in form in IPL.
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I believe Rohit has all but confirmed his opening position for T20 world cup. Also with his super over Bishnoi decision he may stay as Captain too.

Barring injury this should be the order-

Rohit
Kohli
SKY
Hardik
Rinku
Another batter/all rounder
Keeper
Axar
Kuldeep/bishnoi/Jadeja
Shami/Siraj
Bumrah

If Hardik plays then spots are open for a batter and keeper depending on whose in form in IPL.
That is some batter light team! Check out Hardik's performance in the last 2 years in T20s. Mediocre at best. Dube is presently a better allrounder than him.
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Barring injury this should be the order

Kohli
Playing the devil's advocate, because someone has to :What has Kohli done to deserve a spot in the team?
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Playing the devil's advocate, because someone has to :What has Kohli done to deserve a spot in the team?
No point going into lengthy details as that will be beating the same drum again and again. Do check who is Indias most successful batter in T20I and specifically in T20 World cups and you will have the answer. He was even top run scorer for India in 2023 T20 world cup. And lets not forget his innings against Pakistan. Indian team has few issues to sort out but Kohli isn't one.

In fact except his innings yesterday, Rohit Sharma has an absolutely rubbish record in T20I and even in IPL since years. His t20 world cup records are even worse. There is a reason why MI dropped him as Captain when he won them 5 trophies before. But, as he has rediscovered his hitting form since ODI world cup and evident in yesterday innings it will be really tough for selectors to ignore him now. Plus with Hardik made of glass we do need a Captain who can play whole tournament.

I still believe final 11 will be primarily based on IPL performance as evident by selections since sometime.
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That is some batter light team! Check out Hardik's performance in the last 2 years in T20s. Mediocre at best. Dube is presently a better allrounder than him.
Let's be honest.
Hardik is an automatic selection if he is fit. Someone who bowls at 140km and gives batting when needed is a rare thing in Indian cricket. Yes, he has mellowed down in striking sixes but Kohli and hardik are the only ones who don't crumble in knockouts. If batting looks light then play KL Rahul at 6 as a wicket keeper. He can hit the ball from get go when he wants to and no.6 is the perfect place to come and slog. That is exactly what Jitesh is doing currently.

However if Hardik can't bowl then he is a liability considering his timid batting in recent times.
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Rohit after his two ducks was on the way to get dropped from T20 world cup side.
How quickly things change. After scoring the 100 he now looks in pole seat for captaining the side with Hardik out because of injury concerns.

But then things may again change in IPL. If Hardik is back and Rohit flops, scenario may change.

Kohli also need to shine because Shuvman Gill, Tilak Verma and others are contender for that no.3 spot.

The only silver lining or good thing to have come out in last 2 years is Rinku Singh. What a player. No one to else to give him competition at no.6 , the finisher role.

Thank goodness for IPL. We got another great talent
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