[m8002?]

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Thanks for the details.
What influenced me was the post below from a manufacturer of mattresses.
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/shifti...ml#post2090730
SpringWel and Duroflex do seem to have the coir+latex combination with 5 years warranty.


Also, i am looking at a 5-6" thickness and coir+latex seems to be a decent tradeoff. Full latex is pretty expensive.

[nowwhat?]

Originally Posted by panky12345

Try Goose Down pillows

I had those in the US. Had forgotten about them completely. Yep, they are very, very comfy. Are goose down pillows available in India? Any idea about price?

The Sobha latex pillows I bought now are a big step up from the Recron pillows which were the only pillows I could get.

[shankar.balan]

Originally Posted by nowwhat?

I had those in the US. Had forgotten about them completely. Yep, they are very, very comfy. Are goose down pillows available in India? Any idea about price?

The Sobha latex pillows I bought now are a big step up from the Recron pillows which were the only pillows I could get.

Goose Down pillows are available in Lifestyle Home Centre and I believe at Home Stop too.
These are 'Chinese' and cost us approx. Rs 900 per pillow around 5 years ago when we bought them.
My Dad and Mum found them and changed to these in their home. Told us about them so we ran along and snaffled a few for our house too.
Very nice pillows. Real nice and soft.
They do sometimes poke a bit on account of the feathers and the angle, especially if one has a habit of squashing the pillow and sleeping like I do.

[nowwhat?]

Originally Posted by shankar.balan

Goose Down pillows are available in Lifestyle Home Centre and I believe at Home Stop too.
These are 'Chinese' and cost us approx. Rs 900 per pillow around 5 years ago when we bought them.
My Dad and Mum found them and changed to these in their home. Told us about them so we ran along and snaffled a few for our house too.
Very nice pillows. Real nice and soft.
They do sometimes poke a bit on account of the feathers and the angle, especially if one has a habit of squashing the pillow and sleeping like I do.

Thanks for the info, Shankar! Will check out these pillows.

[Guite]

I came across Spring Air brand at the local market yesterday. While there I saw a sample of their Ortho Medical 5" which has a firm side and soft side. Seems good, sadly the sample is too small for complete evaluation. It's a US brand. Has anyone used this brand? If yes, feedback would be appreciated.

[khoj]

You can find them here http://www.springair.in/

& they now assemble their products here
SPRING AIR BEDDING CO INDIA LTD.
{NOIDA (WORKS)}
Spring Air Bedding Co. (I) Ltd. {Noida (Works)}
Plot no. 37-A Ecotech II Udyog Vihar
Greater Noida (U.P.) 201304
Cont. No. 0120-2351427
Email : info@springair.in

They had the kind of latex mattress that I wanted but only in 6" and I wanted 8". Great discount also 30% off on the MRP.

Originally Posted by Guite

I came across Spring Air brand at the local market yesterday. While there I saw a sample of their Ortho Medical 5" which has a firm side and soft side. Seems good, sadly the sample is too small for complete evaluation. It's a US brand. Has anyone used this brand? If yes, feedback would be appreciated.

[areddy]

My two cents -
1. Go for a mattress that has inner pocket springs - these mattresses are expensive as the springs are compressed to 60% of their free length before being put in the mattress. Hence you need to more springs to fill the same volume. This technology is same as pocket springs but with springs are already compressed to give greater longevity.
2. Don't go by discounts - What good is a mattress that gives 25% discount in all their stores across the year? Is n't that just nominal discount to attract naive customers?
3. It is all about quality - you get a meter of cotton cloth for 50Rs. and another one for 1000 Rs. It is easy to fill the volume of king size bed with same material (latex, memory foam, springs, coir, cotton, silk, down, wool etc.,) in 10% of the price of a good quality mattress.
In my experience, the cost of transporting any mattress is around 5K. Import Duties are 100% of the cost of basic material imported (more or less plus the royalties that need to be paid to the parent company in the usa or italy). Profit to the dealer, distributor, company and also taxes etc. would 50% of sale value.

Example: A mattress that sells for 15 K (does not matter what the MRP is!). After you take out 5K for transportation and another 7.5 K towards profits and you are basically buying a mattress that is worth 2.5 K. So you are getting 17% value!

Another example is that of an imported mattress (or an Indian brand that only imports mattress from elsewhere and assembles them here) that is worth 1 lac. Take out 5K for transportation. 50K towards profits. Another 25K paid towards import duties. You are essentially getting something that is worth 20K. Again 20% value!

Compare that with a mattress that sells for 50K. Take out 5K for transportation and another 25K towards profits. You are buying something that is worth 20K. So you are getting 40% value!

The moral of the story is - basically you get what you pay for! "Invest" in a good quality mattress for a period of 10 years. A lot of it is due to mental block of not having spent more than 10 K on a mattress before. A good sleep for a period of 10 years will more than make up for the cost of the mattress. 70K spread over 10 yrs is 20Rs per night of sleep. Dont we spend 50K on a phone that we will use only for 2 yrs?

Without sounding too nationalistic, I would avoid paying for mattress just for a foreign brand. Once you put a sheet on the mattress, no one even knows whether you are sleeping on an american, german or an italian mattress.

Go with referrals. They are the single most important thing. No decent company takes your mattress back once they sell it to you.

ps: Above logic does not work for cars, as Indian engineering is still not an par with a BMW or an Audi (though we are catching up fast). However, mattresses much more simple than cars!

[bdutta]

Yes, that 20-30% discount thing, also put me off quite a bit. However, for most consumer good, 25-40% profit margin is a norm, so the guys into volume business, don't mind parting with 50% of their profit margin. OTOH, I've seen some mattress dealers, for the same brands, who won't give you discount, and say that, we'd take care of the cartage.

@Areddy's argument however makes sense, but unless you know the technology well, can differentiate between legit and fake, you are still walking a tightrope with whatever you buy, unless it is a really well know, highly recommended brand, with an authorized dealership.

Just for the records, I went with a tangential advise I got on this forum. I got traditional cotton mattresses made, with the highest quality specifications for everything. Used real, bale-broken, new, "kapash" cotton (almost sikly to touch), about 24Kgs per 6.5x3ft mattress, i.e. total of 48kgs. Feels amazing. All this for just about 7500/-. Has the soft natural plush, the right amount of firmness. Of course, it won't stay that way, so I get the "fluffing" redone every 6-8 months for 250/- per mattress.

[khoj]

Some weeks back a representative from Springwel came to take a look at the mattress with the puffed up cover. Upon inspection he approved a replacement on the spot and this afternoon a brand new one was delivered. This was actually the second time that they sent in a new mattress to replace the bad one. The one that they sent earlier had come with an incorrect cover fabric i.e Jacquard instead of Knit. I had refused to accept the same and it was taken back by the company's delivery personnel, no questions asked. In case someone is wondering, I did not buy direct from the company but through an authorized dealer. I doubt whether such a service would have been provided by the imported mattress companies.



Above is the actual mattress that has been sent now with the knit fabric cover which breathes better and sleeps drier.

Originally Posted by khoj

Hi Guite, I recently moved from a nearly decade+ old, 4" Kurl On coir foam 'Klassik' to a 8" Springwel 'Fusion' mattress. This has a base layer of coir with pocketed springs and then 2" of Natural 'Talalay' Latex with some other layers in between. I find it very comfortable to sit on and of course to sleep in too. I do realize that maybe a 6" one would have given me more support while sitting and could have saved some money too in the process. There is one concern though and that is of the quilt puffing up after long period of sitting in. I have made a complaint and the company is 'looking in to the matter'.

[gautamkhadse]

Originally Posted by khoj

You can find them here http://www.springair.in/

& they now assemble their products here
SPRING AIR BEDDING CO INDIA LTD.
{NOIDA (WORKS)}
Spring Air Bedding Co. (I) Ltd. {Noida (Works)}
Plot no. 37-A Ecotech II Udyog Vihar
Greater Noida (U.P.) 201304
Cont. No. 0120-2351427
Email : info@springair.in

They had the kind of latex mattress that I wanted but only in 6" and I wanted 8". Great discount also 30% off on the MRP.

After reading about all brands and checking them all , I finally thought why not give spring air a chance too . And I , loved the mattresses . I immediately ordered two for both the bedrooms . Got almost 25% off .

ordered orthomedical for both rooms

one in 7ft by 7ft and other in 6.5 ft by 6 ft . The mattresses were delivered today . Lovely stuff . will post pictures later .

[Guite]

Originally Posted by gautamkhadse

ordered orthomedical for both rooms one in 7ft by 7ft and other in 6.5 ft by 6 ft . The mattresses were delivered today . Lovely stuff . will post pictures later .

Please post your review. Is it firm or soft? Does it support well? I had called up their Delhi rep to get guidance to choose from their range. He promised to call back but never did.

[LonelyPlanet]

Originally Posted by bdutta

Just for the records, I went with a tangential advise I got on this forum. I got traditional cotton mattresses made, with the highest quality specifications for everything. Used real, bale-broken, new, "kapash" cotton (almost sikly to touch), about 24Kgs per 6.5x3ft mattress, i.e. total of 48kgs. Feels amazing. All this for just about 7500/-. Has the soft natural plush, the right amount of firmness. Of course, it won't stay that way, so I get the "fluffing" redone every 6-8 months for 250/- per mattress.

Where did you cotton mattress get this done ?
What is the appox cost of this Kapash cotton ?
It is a 6" or an 8" thickness ?
Is it a single mattress or 3 different mattresses ?
What is the feedback after a month of use - a newly fluffed feels good initially but becomes hard later !!

[bdutta]

Originally Posted by LonelyPlanet

Where did you cotton mattress get this done ?
What is the appox cost of this Kapash cotton ?
It is a 6" or an 8" thickness ?
Is it a single mattress or 3 different mattresses ?
What is the feedback after a month of use - a newly fluffed feels good initially but becomes hard later !!

Order was placed at a "Gaddawala" shop in HSR Layout. His relative actually makes it in another shop, on Harlur Road (off Sarjapura Road). If interested in this particular shop, I can give you better coordinates.

Original quote for Kapash cotton was 150/- per Kg, but when I told him that I'd need close to 50Kgs, he brought the price down to about 110/- (or 120/-). He filled the cotton in front of me, and measured the weight using a good quality spring balance. The thickness was 6", which would eventually settle-down to about 4-4.5". Also they make the mattresses about 1-2" shorter on all sides (length/breadth), because over a month or so of use, it'd flatten-out to fill the length. My mistake was to ignore this advice, and now I am having to deal with some overflow on the sides by an inch or so. Best to stick with expert advice :-)... lesson learnt!

I went for 2 mattresses, each of 6.5 x 3 feet size. They are easier to deal with, else lifting ~50kgs for cleaning / airing is quite an effort.

So far, the feel is still quite good. In fact initially, it feels a bit too fluffy (for my taste) and you feel those large mounds/bumps between the button-stiches... and now it feels much better. Clearly, it'd eventually get much harder, but I'm yet to see a good quality cotton mattress which get uncomfortably hard (we've quite a few of them at my parent's place). If you go for the black 'hosiery cotton', they get clumpy and real hard. Also, getting the things redone is inexpensive at 250/-.

[fordday]

bdutta,
Your cotton mattress idea seems to inspire me. Can you please put the exact coordinates of the shop? I am in BTM and would like to got for it.

Fordday.

[appuchan]

Bought a Sobha Restoplex Alpha Premium recently to replace our master bed mattress. Cost me about 16k including two pillows. It feels pretty good so far and the pillows are very plush.