Mahindra Bolero vs Tata Sumo

blackfire_9 · 3rd January 2012, 12:46

^^ I was just checking the specs on the TATA website, & it seems that EX is the best option in case of Sumo Gold since there isn't much that is being offered for the kind of extra money being charged. Please add in case I may have missed something.

Also, any idea on what are the charges (additional) for getting the immobilizer which is being shown as optional in case of EX? Please do inquire on this aspect as well.

Lastly, I request you to do a side by side comparison of your TD experience of the Sumo with the Bolero.

Drive safe.

anujmishra · 3rd January 2012, 13:44

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Originally Posted by lohithrao

Anuj can you share your experience
thanks

We had SUMO DX purchased in 97 and we kept it for 6 years. Barring one event (where hose pipe from radiator came out due to loose clamp) it never troubled. During full 6 years our Sumo was full reliable and never had any reliability issue barring one incident. Yes, it was maintained properly and all required services were done on time.

One of our friend and neighbour who also purchased normal SUMO (without AC) in 97 still have his vehicle and he kept it in perfect condition. He used to give his Sumo to tour operators for long booking. He never had any reliability issue despite high running. I think now his Sumo must be ~ 3 lakh mark. He built engine once and did some modifications like power steering and AC in his SUMO.

As of now, I am driving Tata Safari for 1.3 years and never had any reliability issue for last 20000 Kms.

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Originally Posted by 2500cc

True Anuj, reliability is a broad word,

No one says one particular vehicle is highly reliable. There are instances of every car made on earth has failed. But how often the reliability issues crop up is what matters.

I agree with you completely. Any car/vehicle can become unreliable if it is not maintained properly. I feel non-maintenance is biggest reason for unreliability.

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Originally Posted by blackfire_9

I would agree to what Anuj has said, it's important to put up facts or experiences to get a clear picture of what's good or bad in a product.

I absolutely agree. Without fact and figures we cannot blame any vehicle.

thalavoy · 3rd January 2012, 14:23

@lohith. Just curious. What happened to you Fiat Adventure?

lohithrao · 3rd January 2012, 14:24

I still have the car

planning to sell it.

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Originally Posted by thalavoy

@lohith. Just curious. What happened to you Fiat Adventure?

indianvirus · 4th January 2012, 13:19

I agree Bolero is selling way more than sumo, but how many of it, is sold to private owners, that too, as family cars? I feel most of the sales come from government organization like police, railways etc. and NGOs, or as cheaper people mover. I have travelled in bolero once, and i agree with others here, it is not that comfortable (cramped, noise-vibrations).
I am not saying grande is better than bolero, but it is more suitable as a "family car". Bolero excels at army-like requirements. I would choose grande over bolero any day as family car.

Just my opinion..

lohithrao · 4th January 2012, 13:23

Sure, i took the td of Sumo gold yesterday. i will put up the report soon.
planning to take 2nd td of Bolero.

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Originally Posted by blackfire_9

^^ I was just checking the specs on the TATA website, & it seems that EX is the best option in case of Sumo Gold since there isn't much that is being offered for the kind of extra money being charged. Please add in case I may have missed something.

Also, any idea on what are the charges (additional) for getting the immobilizer which is being shown as optional in case of EX? Please do inquire on this aspect as well.

Lastly, I request you to do a side by side comparison of your TD experience of the Sumo with the Bolero.

Drive safe.

bblost · 4th January 2012, 13:30

Lohith: Different Variant of the Sumo. But its a nice video.

TATA SUMO TDI 1999 - YouTube

lohithrao · 4th January 2012, 13:54

Thanks Bblost, i wish we had a good TD report of both Sumo C4 and Bolero M2di. however i have a good idea of both now after the TD.

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Originally Posted by bblost

Lohith: Different Variant of the Sumo. But its a nice video.

blackfire_9 · 8th January 2012, 22:37

^^ Hey, we are still awaiting your report

lohithrao · 9th January 2012, 10:32

will post it by today or tomo been too busy last couple of days

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Originally Posted by blackfire_9

^^ Hey, we are still awaiting your report

blackfire_9 · 9th January 2012, 11:59

^^

Thanks mate. Also, one request, please include any details about the maintenance costs (w.r.t A.S.S) of each that you may have.

bblost · 9th January 2012, 12:10

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Originally Posted by lohithrao

will post it by today or tomo been too busy last couple of days

Lohith. I would strongly recommend you wait for a couple of months if the need is a people carrier.

There are two new offerings from Maruti and Nissan. They def look tempting enough for me to put my plans on hold.

The Ertiga with 3 point harness seatbelt in the last row, wins a LOT of points from me.

lohithrao · 9th January 2012, 12:54

Bblost, thanks for the update, can you give me more details on Nissan? while Ertiga i think its a petrol? and it would be a big no..

also since higway usage is the main priority i am looking at a tough vehicle which can handle any kind of terrain and in my budget for now i have Bolero and Sumo(Gold)...

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Originally Posted by bblost

Lohith. I would strongly recommend you wait for a couple of months if the need is a people carrier.

There are two new offerings from Maruti and Nissan. They def look tempting enough for me to put my plans on hold.

The Ertiga with 3 point harness seatbelt in the last row, wins a LOT of points from me.

bblost · 9th January 2012, 12:57

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Originally Posted by lohithrao

Bblost, thanks for the update, can you give me more details on Nissan? while Ertiga i think its a petrol? and it would be a big no..

also since higway usage is the main priority i am looking at a tough vehicle which can handle any kind of terrain and in my budget for now i have Bolero and Sumo(Gold)...

Auto Expo 2012 - Team-BHP

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/auto-e...po-2012-a.html

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- Powered by a 1.4 litre K series VVT engine or the Fiat 1.3 MJD diesel. Petrol is rated at 94 BHP (@ 6000 rpm) and max torque of 130 Nm (@ 4000 rpm). The diesel is rated at 89 BHP (@ 4000 rpm) and max torque of 200 Nm (@ 1750 rpm). Will be interesting to gauge just how it behaves with 7 onboard

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/auto-e...po-2012-a.html

Lohith. we are going Off Topic.

lohithrao · 9th January 2012, 13:15

WOW, thank you for sharing theses, this is why TBHP rocks!

ohh how can i forget that a diesel variant is a must

Nissan & Ertiga both does not impress me much so i guess we are back on "topic"

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Originally Posted by bblost

Auto Expo 2012 - Team-BHP

Lohith. we are going Off Topic.

View Poll Results: which car is better for city driving / visibility / minimal body roll / cheap part
Bolero SLX	93	48.95%
sumo grande MKII CX	97	51.05%
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3rd January 2012, 12:46	#136
blackfire_9 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: India Posts: 1,075 Thanked: 191 Times	Re: Mahindra bolero vs Tata sumo grande MKII ^^ I was just checking the specs on the TATA website, & it seems that EX is the best option in case of Sumo Gold since there isn't much that is being offered for the kind of extra money being charged. Please add in case I may have missed something. Also, any idea on what are the charges (additional) for getting the immobilizer which is being shown as optional in case of EX? Please do inquire on this aspect as well. Lastly, I request you to do a side by side comparison of your TD experience of the Sumo with the Bolero. Drive safe.
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3rd January 2012, 14:23	#138
thalavoy BHPian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Chennai Posts: 406 Thanked: 77 Times View My Garage	Re: Mahindra bolero vs Tata sumo grande MKII @lohith. Just curious. What happened to you Fiat Adventure?
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4th January 2012, 13:19	#140
indianvirus BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Vadodara Posts: 207 Thanked: 122 Times	Re: Mahindra bolero vs Tata sumo grande MKII I agree Bolero is selling way more than sumo, but how many of it, is sold to private owners, that too, as family cars? I feel most of the sales come from government organization like police, railways etc. and NGOs, or as cheaper people mover. I have travelled in bolero once, and i agree with others here, it is not that comfortable (cramped, noise-vibrations). I am not saying grande is better than bolero, but it is more suitable as a "family car". Bolero excels at army-like requirements. I would choose grande over bolero any day as family car. Just my opinion.. Last edited by indianvirus : 4th January 2012 at 13:21.
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8th January 2012, 22:37	#144
blackfire_9 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: India Posts: 1,075 Thanked: 191 Times	Re: Mahindra bolero vs Tata sumo grande MKII ^^ Hey, we are still awaiting your report
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9th January 2012, 11:59	#146
blackfire_9 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: India Posts: 1,075 Thanked: 191 Times	Re: Mahindra bolero vs Tata sumo grande MKII ^^ Thanks mate. Also, one request, please include any details about the maintenance costs (w.r.t A.S.S) of each that you may have. Last edited by blackfire_9 : 9th January 2012 at 12:01.
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