[undead]

Nice review @CtrlAltDel .

after having driven this I must say that positioning the console at the center is not really inconvenient for the driver. I didnt need to turn my neck to look at the speedo or tacho. a mere sideways glance for a second would do. the console is attractively lit and visibility is good. it doesnt divert attention from the road. IMO, i now feel glancing "down" towards the conventionally placed speedo/tacho is more distracting, compared to this one. about the looks, its subjective. I like it.

I agree. Me and uncle felt the same when we bought the Spark recently.

[madhokritesh]

Originally Posted by CtrlAltDel

Today after work I headed to Autofin Tata motors showroom in Secunderabad for a Test drive.

I had to wait about 15 minutes since the TD vehicle was away on a test drive. The sales guy told me that since just before noon, the car had been tested nearly 30-40 times...

Nice review it was, i felt like iam reading a car review in a magazine.
Any pics taken??

[pgsagar]

People liked Palio's engine and gearbox for what they are, but shied away from it because of high price and Fiat's poor sales and service network. People liked Indica's space, low cost and Tata'a vast sales and service network but were wary of its unrefined engine / gerabox combo.

Now with one master stroke, these problems have been addressed. An Inidca with Fiat engine/gearbox is just what the doctor ordered. Best of both worlds indeed!

Swift will face tough competition. Its rear seats are indeed the worst among all cars. Swift rear seats are so cramped that it can be used as a cop car with arrested seated in the rear. They will feel so claustrophobic that they would think twice before breaking the law again, haha...

[condor]

greenhorn : is there 70K worth of taxes or is there something funny with the pricing? The range was supposed to be till 4.88 ex showroom

@greenhorn, thumb-rule to calculate on-road price of a car :

Ex-showroom price + 16% of the ex-showroom price = On-road price

Here : 4.88L * 1.16 = 5.66L

[obed5579]

The vista looks great and interior looks way ahead of the v2. i kind of like the central console. It kind of give a cute image. Moreover it make a lot of sense on the cost cutting front for TATA's as they will be able to adapt easily to manufacture both right hand and lest hand drive cars will minimal changes

[CaAT]

Hi all,

Did a TD of Vista Quadrajet (Aura) yesterday. But since the vehicle was not yet registered, highways were out of bounds. Had to be content with driving on service roads.

Both 'CtrlAltDel' and 'SidIndica' have covered most of the points, so I will not repeat them. Just add few of my own.

1) Car will be officially launched in Pune tomorrow (27th). Delivery expected by 15th September.

2) Sitting on the rear seat is a novel experience. I felt it to be slightly elevated and it gave a SUV like posture. I loved it.

3) The car handled potholes ably and did not betray the masculine exteriors that characterises Vista.

4) Interiors, though a quantum leap from the first/second gen Indicas, leave a lot to be desired. The plastic cover over the steering column, being the case in point. It still gives a typical Indicaish feel.

5) Built-in audio system is just about ok, if not crap.

6) I was told that the 24 months extended warranty comes from Tata Motors and not from dealer/insurance company. IMO, that is too tempting an offer to be missed.

I could not drive the TDi version, which is on my radar, as it will be made available only after couple of days. Will update you as soon as I TD it.

[madhokritesh]

Tata Motors is the 1st co to accept it on their website that the Quadrajet is a Fiat engine , While Maruti who also uses the 1.3Multijet dosent mention Fiats name anywhere on its Site or Brouchere.

Has anyone taken the TD of the Turbo Diesel (TDI) Vista?

[condor]

madhokritesh : Tata Motors is the 1st co to accept it on their website that the Quadrajet is a Fiat engine , While Maruti who also uses the 1.3Multijet dosent mention Fiats name anywhere on its Site or Brouchere.

Would depend on what the terms of agreement were between the respective companies.

[Technocrat]

This is what Mr Adil Jal Darukhanawala Say:

It is no secret that the key aspect behind the Indica Vista would have to be its ability to take on the likes of the Suzuki Swift and the Hyundai Getz, and on most counts on paper, it has them covered, especially when you look at the top end version powered by Fiat’s acclaimed 1.3-litre Multijet engine which is now made in India at Ranjangaon. This engine, now badged as the Quadrajet, is not in any way similar to that employed on the Swift DDIS, its engine mapping characteristics differing majorly for the sort of Indian customer Tata Motors has in mind.

God Bless Him. This was in yesterday's TOI Pune edition.

[condor]

Technocrat : God Bless Him. .

Just the words. Two engines, built on the same foundation, and yet AJD says "The engine(s) ... not in anyway similar .."

[directinjection]

Originally Posted by madhokritesh

Tata Motors is the 1st co to accept it on their website that the Quadrajet is a Fiat engine , While Maruti who also uses the 1.3Multijet dosent mention Fiats name anywhere on its Site or Brouchere.

FIAT is a trademark owned by Fiat Automobiles SpA. Maruti or any other entity interested in using the FIAT trademark would require Fiat's permission through a Trade Mark User Agreement, usually upon payment of royalty. Tata has a JV with Fiat and is licensed to use Fiat trade mark. Maruti isn't.

[harry10]

Originally Posted by greenhorn

is there 70K worth of taxes or is there something funny with the pricing? The range was supposed to be till 4.88 ex showroom

Its 5.15 on road in faridabad and 5.26 on road in delhi.

Originally Posted by condor

@greenhorn, thumb-rule to calculate on-road price of a car :

Ex-showroom price + 16% of the ex-showroom price = On-road price

Here : 4.88L * 1.16 = 5.66L

I think there is no thumb rule to determine on road price, it just depends on insurance and registration mainly. As the registration is less in Fbd thats why it is around 11k less on road price than delhi.

Anyone has details for the 2din system and the speakers? Which company and are they worth to keep or upgrade is recommended?

[zenx]

Anyone tested the TDI yet ? If they've managed to smooth some rough edges there, the rest of the package will make it great VFM!

[Technocrat]

Originally Posted by condor

Just the words. Two engines, built on the same foundation, and yet AJD says "The engine(s) ... not in anyway similar .."

I thought you would know what I meant

[prashanthyr]

Looks like Tata has a winner on its hands if they can get the quality right in volume production. A Vista CS with the Quadrajet in 90 Bhp tune and Airbags/ABS at less than 6.5 on road will practically kill everything in the 5-7.5 range.