Mahindra Scorpio : Tyre & wheel upgrade thread

Dry Ice · 6th January 2014, 13:35

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Originally Posted by agbenny

PS: I tried to upload pictures, But I see I can do only from URLs?

It's the reverse actually. Uploads not allowed via URLs.

Check this thread, has a guide - http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/announ...-team-bhp.html

agbenny · 6th January 2014, 15:08

Got it. Here are some pics of the old and the new Tyres.

agbenny · 6th January 2014, 15:42

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Originally Posted by agbenny

Got it. Here are some pics of the old and the new Tyres.

Sorry, I found I was trying to upload images of more than 1MB size. Reduced it and uploaded again.

SS-Traveller · 9th May 2014, 09:23

235/70R16 Scorpio-size Michelin LTX A/T2 has been launched in India this month.

http://www.michelin.in/Home/Products...ail/suv/LTXAT2

desertfox · 12th May 2014, 16:21

It is good except for a weak sidewall. Its city / highway performance is simply great.

AGBENNY - For how many km was your older set of Bridgestone HT driven for a complete tread wear out and in how many years ?

In UAE there is a law if the tyres are more than 5 yrs old they fail the car at annual registration card passing test.

Most people dont do it but its a good idea to rotate all 5 tyres and then on replacement send the best one to spare.

2nd set buy only four. Rotate four.

3rd set buy 5 again and rotate all five.

maverick145 · 26th May 2014, 13:24

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Originally Posted by SS-Traveller

235/70R16 Scorpio-size Michelin LTX A/T2 has been launched in India this month.

http://www.michelin.in/Home/Products...ail/suv/LTXAT2

So these are the best tyres available now for the Scorpio in India?

SS-Traveller · 26th May 2014, 15:38

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Originally Posted by maverick145

So these are the best tyres available now for the Scorpio in India?

I'm afraid I'm no tyre specialist, but I had been very happy with the BS Duelers as such. Despite that, since I was stuck with one different tyre, I decided to make that 2 - the brand being Ceat Czar.

You can read about it in my ownership thread:

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Originally Posted by SS-Traveller

At 4.5 years, in the peak of summer, with a fully loaded car at highway speeds, I didn't want to push my luck with the old tyres. So I made a quick trip to Tyre Emporium for one Ceat Czar (Rs.6200) and one BS Dueler (Rs.7300). A pair of Ceats up front, a pair of BS Duelers at the rear, and one OE tyre in decent condition as the spare - and we were good to go.

A pic of 2 of the old tyres, and the new Ceat..

Mahindra Scorpio : Tyre & wheel upgrade thread-tyres.jpg

desertfox · 3rd June 2014, 15:10

So Doc now you run with 2 Bridestone duelers and two Ceat Czar ?
Do you find a difference in the ride from when all 4 were the same ?

SS-Traveller · 4th June 2014, 10:33

Front end shod with Ceats sounds a little noisier at 100+ km/h speeds. Otherwise I don't find any difference in grip or ride comfort, if that's what you're asking - but then I rarely test the limits of my car. So honestly, on a turn at 120 km/h, I really don't know, and don't want to find out, whether the Duelers win or the Czars.

Nikhilb2008 · 5th June 2014, 10:09

Please keep the new tyres at the rear SS-Traveller! It's safer and more stable.

SS-Traveller · 5th June 2014, 20:30

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Originally Posted by Nikhilb2008

Please keep the new tyres at the rear SS-Traveller!

All tyres are new Nikhil, except the one Dueler at the rear that's run ~10k km and is ~1 year old - that too, run only as the rear wheel.

Up front, one of the Czars is ~1 year old (bought then but not driven), and the other was bought recently - and all have now already run >5k km since fitment.

Would you please suggest any other configuration?

VeyronSuperSprt · 5th June 2014, 21:33

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Originally Posted by SS-Traveller

All tyres are new Nikhil, except the one Dueler at the rear that's run ~10k km and is ~1 year old - that too, run only as the rear wheel.

Up front, one of the Czars is ~1 year old (bought then but not driven), and the other was bought recently - and all have now already run >5k km since fitment.

Would you please suggest any other configuration?

From the pics put up, there is quite a difference in the tread depth between the used tyres and the brand new tyre. It would certainly be safer to put the new tyres at the rear.

desertfox · 5th June 2014, 23:31

A Scorpio is rather quite incabale of a turn even at 100 Km ph and should never be attempted.

Safe driving is best driving.

I feel difference in tread pattern does change the ride a bit but such things would be apparent only on good highways at cruising speeds on on our Delhi roads where you are lucky if you are doing 60 kmph

SPIKE ARRESTOR · 6th June 2014, 00:37

^^ Are you concerned of the ride or the handling due to different tread patterns on a Scorpio? I am a bit confused, could you clarify?

Cheers
Spike

desertfox · 6th June 2014, 00:40

Yes, I have always been tought this theory by TOYO engineers and other automotive experts that all four radial tyres must be the same tread and must be replaced as a set of four together.

This is what happens in the Middle East or the western world and here too unless its a 1992 model mazda 323 and the Omani owner wants a quick fix with a Chinese tyre for 10 Riyals ( Rs. 1200 odd ).

6th January 2014, 15:08	#272
agbenny BANNED Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: TN38 Posts: 1,081 Thanked: 294 Times	re: Mahindra Scorpio : Tyre & wheel upgrade thread Got it. Here are some pics of the old and the new Tyres. Last edited by agbenny : 6th January 2014 at 15:26.
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9th May 2014, 09:23	#274
SS-Traveller Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: New Delhi Posts: 8,280 Thanked: 28,729 Times View My Garage	re: Mahindra Scorpio : Tyre & wheel upgrade thread 235/70R16 Scorpio-size Michelin LTX A/T2 has been launched in India this month. http://www.michelin.in/Home/Products...ail/suv/LTXAT2
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12th May 2014, 16:21	#275
desertfox Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gurgaon, Delhi NCR Posts: 1,270 Thanked: 652 Times	re: Mahindra Scorpio : Tyre & wheel upgrade thread It is good except for a weak sidewall. Its city / highway performance is simply great. AGBENNY - For how many km was your older set of Bridgestone HT driven for a complete tread wear out and in how many years ? In UAE there is a law if the tyres are more than 5 yrs old they fail the car at annual registration card passing test. Most people dont do it but its a good idea to rotate all 5 tyres and then on replacement send the best one to spare. 2nd set buy only four. Rotate four. 3rd set buy 5 again and rotate all five. Last edited by desertfox : 12th May 2014 at 16:28.
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3rd June 2014, 15:10	#278
desertfox Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gurgaon, Delhi NCR Posts: 1,270 Thanked: 652 Times	re: Mahindra Scorpio : Tyre & wheel upgrade thread So Doc now you run with 2 Bridestone duelers and two Ceat Czar ? Do you find a difference in the ride from when all 4 were the same ?
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4th June 2014, 10:33	#279
SS-Traveller Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: New Delhi Posts: 8,280 Thanked: 28,729 Times View My Garage	Front end shod with Ceats sounds a little noisier at 100+ km/h speeds. Otherwise I don't find any difference in grip or ride comfort, if that's what you're asking - but then I rarely test the limits of my car. So honestly, on a turn at 120 km/h, I really don't know, and don't want to find out, whether the Duelers win or the Czars.
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5th June 2014, 10:09	#280
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,195 Thanked: 10,177 Times	re: Mahindra Scorpio : Tyre & wheel upgrade thread Please keep the new tyres at the rear SS-Traveller! It's safer and more stable.
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5th June 2014, 23:31	#283
desertfox Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gurgaon, Delhi NCR Posts: 1,270 Thanked: 652 Times	re: Mahindra Scorpio : Tyre & wheel upgrade thread A Scorpio is rather quite incabale of a turn even at 100 Km ph and should never be attempted. Safe driving is best driving. I feel difference in tread pattern does change the ride a bit but such things would be apparent only on good highways at cruising speeds on on our Delhi roads where you are lucky if you are doing 60 kmph
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6th June 2014, 00:37	#284
SPIKE ARRESTOR Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 2,856 Thanked: 1,545 Times	re: Mahindra Scorpio : Tyre & wheel upgrade thread ^^ Are you concerned of the ride or the handling due to different tread patterns on a Scorpio? I am a bit confused, could you clarify? Cheers Spike
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6th June 2014, 00:40	#285
desertfox Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gurgaon, Delhi NCR Posts: 1,270 Thanked: 652 Times	re: Mahindra Scorpio : Tyre & wheel upgrade thread Yes, I have always been tought this theory by TOYO engineers and other automotive experts that all four radial tyres must be the same tread and must be replaced as a set of four together. This is what happens in the Middle East or the western world and here too unless its a 1992 model mazda 323 and the Omani owner wants a quick fix with a Chinese tyre for 10 Riyals ( Rs. 1200 odd ).
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