Coming from an i20 petrol, I took a while to adjust to the size of the SUV.

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Got the first servicing done for my XZA+ Adv. There were issues with boot door locking and front right suspension that were resolved.

In addition, the topped-up DEF and software of the entertainment screen were updated to 18.50.

One issue remains, every time I crank up my vehicle, I get a fault in the IRA app, “Malfunction suspected in a particular item in your car. Please contact nearest Tata Service centre”. The service advisor said it was an issue with the IRA app rather than the car. Is anyone getting this error?

With the advent of gadgets and gizmos, I think we will always have some glitch in the system and we have to live with it. Kind of Minimum Equipment List concept in aviation.

Also, got clarification on the 3rd row AC operation. Even if AC and blower are set to off from the central console, the AC vents will still operate in blower mode unless turned off with their own knob on the RH side 3rd-row seat.

I also was facing an issue with Android Auto. It won’t connect in wireless mode. Mostly my phone (Samsung A70) might not be compatible. The service advisor was able to connect wirelessly using his Apple phone. I need to try someone else’s Android phone to troubleshoot further.

To balance out complaints with some positives, the car rides very well, based on my 1300 km so far. Mostly did highway runs with occasional city use. Took time to adjust to the size of the vehicle and needed some change of habits. I come from i20 petrol, an agile car with very good response. Safari compared to i20 is not very quick with the blocks. Of course, sports mode is truly agile. On my highway run, for a quick overtake I used to shift to M mode. Somehow I found moving to M more intuitive than pressing the sports mode button on the centre console.

Then comes braking, Safari is a locomotive. Be cautious to not tailgate, the travel for the brake pedal is longer, that fraction of a second you feel you are not in control. Got used to it.

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I had the front right suspension issue since my first service. It did not get rectified through their adjustment. I got it replaced after 2nd service. Looks like some manufacturing defect is still lurking around. Mine is a year old and sad to see that newer ones continue to come with the same issue.

Also on Harman Entertainment. Mine have connectivity issues on and off, I use iPhone and Android Connect too but same issue I face once in a while. It's very buggy, the version is 18.11 and you have the latest. Still facing issues is surprising. Again talks about the quality of software from the vendor.

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Like the Nexon facelift, the upcoming Safari will also receive a redesigned front fascia with an LED light bar.

The updated version of the Tata Safari has been caught testing once again. Unlike the test mules seen earlier, this test car has the production-spec front bumper.

Like the Nexon facelift, the upcoming Safari will also receive a redesigned front fascia, with what appears to be an LED light bar. The front grille will be reprofiled and the headlamps will now be housed inside vertical pods on either side of the bumper.

The Safari facelift could also receive some cosmetic changes to the rear. It could get new LED taillights with an LED light bar and other modifications. The Tata Harrier is also expected to receive similar updates.

Inside, the Safari and Harrier are expected to get a larger 10.25-inch touchscreen infotainment system, a full-digital instrument cluster and a redesigned centre console with a new gearshift lever. The SUVs are also expected to get ADAS.

The updated Harrier and Safari are expected to carry forward the same 2.0-litre, 4-cylinder diesel engine that makes 168 BHP and 350 Nm. The engine will be paired with either a 6-speed manual or a 6-speed automatic. The carmaker could also debut its new 1.5-litre turbo-petrol engine on the updated Harrier and Safari. This unit puts out 168 BHP and 280 Nm.

Source: Anvay Sheolikar via Rushlane

Considering my poor experience with the Tata service centre last time, I decided to go to a reliable FNG and get things done.

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On my path to perfection

My wife and I used to undertake a lot of trips in our Baleno earlier and plan on doing the same with the Storme with our 1-year-old baby as well. But I still have not got that confidence on the truck as yet because I did not get it out of the factory, so I want to ensure that all the wear and tear parts are replaced so that I am sure that things are fine on that end.

After the fluid changes and in my pursuit to make the truck as good as new, was looking at the next set of changes to do. But given the poor experience with TASS, I decided to go to a reliable FNG and finally managed to find one for myself. There are a few issues with the vehicle that I wanted to look into.

Body Vibrations

I felt that the engine mounts are worn out as the truck has slight vibration all the time and especially during startup and shutdown. Everybody I talked to shrugged it off as the characteristic of the vehicle but I still wanted to ensure it is how it is. And post the engine and gearbox mounting change, what a difference. There is a very mild shake during the start and shutdown and idling and drives are just like a petrol vehicle now. Very refined and enjoyable.

V-Belt, water pump change

I had asked the mechanic to check the belts and change them if required, they said that the belts are in good shape and do not need a change as of now. So that was also not changed and it continues to be what it is.

TVD Change

So I told the mechanics to change the TVD and they had no clue what it is, then I showed them the damper I was referring to and they were like - Oh you mean damper coupling  I told them to check it, they checked it and found that it is fine but found the central bearing of the drive shaft to be worn out and replaced that. This change removed the humming sound coming from below the vehicle along with the mounting change has made the car very very smooth.

Steering Tie rods

When I raised the point of the steering play, they mentioned that the steering tie rods are worn out and needed to be changed. They changed those as well and informed me to get the wheel alignment done. But as it was getting late they just did a string-based alignment and let me go reminding me to get the alignment done ASAP. Post the alignment though the play has drastically reduced it is still there, I suspect there is some play in the column but will get that inspected and changed later.

WA/WB/Rotation

When I took the vehicle for WA/WB, the technician did the balance first and found that the tyres, even though they look fine are stiffening up and losing shape. He showed how the centre part of the tyre has risen up in certain places. Before rotation, he inspected the tyres and said that the front tyres are the better ones and just let them be in the front. What surprised me is that the Castor and Camber angles were extremely skewed and he brought all the angles to within acceptable limits as per Storme's map. When he did the trial run post-change, he found that the vehicle is slightly pulling to the left, he did a right-left switch of the front tyres but said that even though the pull is gone post the rotation, the tyres still need to be changed.

Post the changes, did a Sunday run to Lonavala and had the following observations:

Vibrations

What I observed is that though the vehicle runs like a petrol vehicle, at speeds between 70-100 there was a sudden vibration coming into the entire vehicle emanating from somewhere below. Others were not feeling anything but I for sure felt it, so I took the vehicle back to the mechanic for inspection believing that during the bearing change, they might have not tightened things up or there might be play in the shaft. They tightened things and tested but did not feel anything but mentioned that your tyres definitely feel funky. So I will hold on to the observations till I get the tyres changed, any suggestions on the possible reasons and tyres are welcome.

Left Pull

I observed a slight pull to the left which is very slight but it still means that there is a slight course correction that needs to be done constantly. The alignment guy was mentioning the same is due to tyres so will hold this judgement also till then.

AC Cooling inconsistency

I am observing that the compressor cuts off very frequently. Had checked the condenser fan and it seems to be working fine but the compressor cuts off very frequently. When the journey begins there is no cooling and suddenly cooling comes in but the condenser keeps cutting off. But when it's working the cooling is excellent. Also, another thing to note is the temperature knob does not work, even when set to hot, it would still blow cold air.

The mechanic has said that an AC check requires leaving the vehicle for at least 3 days for a pressure test + dashboard removal and installation again apart from ordering parts and getting them. This is required since we also had to recharge AC gas recently pointing to a leak in the system. I am just praying that the leak is detected at the condenser level and not at the cooling coils. I am waiting for my friend who took my Baleno to come back to town so that I can borrow the Baleno again while Safari goes to the garage again.

One of the biggest problems I face with the Storme is that no part is readily available with the TASS, the official spare part stores are pretty far away from where I live and that means the car needs to have at least a day or two of downtime for any change that it requires. This makes me feel that this cannot be the only car in your garage because any emergency workshop visit would cripple your travel for the next few days. So keeping the vehicle in top shape is a priority for me.

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Tata could also introduce its new 1.5-litre turbo-petrol engine on the Harrier and Safari.

According to a media report, Tata Motors is likely to debut the updated Harrier and Safari in October 2023, with the price announcement expected before Diwali.

The facelift versions of the Tata Harrier and Safari have already been spotted testing on the road. Both models are expected to get a redesigned front fascia inspired by the Harrier EV concept that was showcased at Auto Expo 2023. The SUVs could get an LED light bar up front with slim taillights at the rear, also connected by an LED light bar.

The 2023 Harrier and Safari are likely to get a few changes on the inside. Spy images have revealed a larger touchscreen infotainment system and a fully digital instrument cluster. We also got a glimpse of a new stubby gear lever on a Harrier Automatic test mule.

Tata is likely to retain the FCA-sourced 2.0-litre diesel engine. This motor develops 168 BHP and 350 Nm and will be paired with either a 6-speed manual or a 6-speed automatic transmission. Moreover, the carmaker could also introduce its new 1.5-litre turbo-petrol engine, which makes 168 BHP and 280 Nm.

Source: Autocar India

The Safari is now available with a 360-degree camera and ADAS.

Tata Motors has launched the MY2023 Safari in India, with prices starting at Rs 15.65 lakh (ex-showroom).

Like the Harrier, the 2023 Safari comes loaded with new tech and features. The SUV gets a 10.25-inch touchscreen infotainment system, a 7-inch digital instrument cluster, a 6-way power adjustable driver seat with memory function, ventilated seats in the front and 2nd-row, a panoramic sunroof and ambient lighting.

The Safari is now available with a 360-degree camera and ADAS, which includes features like high beam assist, lane change alert, lane departure warning, door open alert, traffic sign recognition, blind spot detection, rear cross-traffic alert, rear collision warning, forward collision warning and autonomous emergency braking. It also gets disc brakes all around.

The 2023 Safari uses the same 2.0-litre diesel engine as before. However, the engine has been updated to comply with the RDE norms. It develops 168 BHP and 350 Nm and is available with either a 6-speed manual or 6-speed automatic transmission.

2023 Tata Safari ex-showroom prices:

• XE – Rs 15.65 lakh
• XM – Rs 17.15 lakh
• XMS – Rs 18.46 lakh
• XMAS – Rs 19.76 lakh
• XT+ - Rs 19.63 lakh
• XTA+ – Rs 19.98 lakh
• XZ - Rs 20.48 lakh
• XZA – Rs 21.78 lakh
• XZ+ – Rs 20.48 lakh
• XZ+ 6S – Rs 22.27 lakh
• XZ+ Adventure – Rs 22.42 lakh
• XZ+ 6S Adventure – Rs 22.52 lakh
• XZA+ – Rs 23.47 lakh
• XZA+ 6S – Rs 23.57 lakh
• XZ+ Adventure – Rs 23.72 lakh
• XZA+ 6S Adventure – Rs 23.82 lakh
• XZ+ (O) – Rs 24.47 lakh
• XZ+ (O) 6S – Rs 24.57 lakh
• XZ+ (O) Adventure – Rs 24.72 lakh
• XZ+ (O) 6S Adventure – Rs 24.82 lakh

The 2023 Dark edition range is available with a 3-years / 1 lakh km standard warranty.

Tata Motors has announced the launch of its 2023 Dark edition range of SUVs. The line-up includes the Nexon, Harrier and Safari with prices starting at Rs 12.35 lakh (ex-showroom).

The 2023 Dark editions come with several enhancements both inside and out. The Harrier and Safari get an Oberon Black exterior, a Piano Black grille with Zircon Red accents, and 18-inch Charcoal Black alloy wheels with red calipers. Inside, the SUVs get Carnelian Red upholstery with diamond quilting on the seats and the #Dark logo on the headrests.

The Harrier and Safari Dark editions now come equipped with a 10.25-inch touchscreen infotainment system and ADAS. The SUVs also get features like a 6-way power adjustable driver seat with memory function, a 4-way powered co-driver seat, a 360-degree camera, a 7-inch digital instrument cluster, a sunroof and ambient lighting.

The Nexon Dark edition also comes with an Oberon Black exterior with Zircon Red inserts in the grille. It gets 16-inch Blackstone alloy wheels and a Carnelian Red interior with leatherette seats.

The 2023 Dark edition range is available with a 3-years / 1 lakh km standard warranty.

2023 Tata Dark edition range ex-showroom prices:

• Nexon Petrol - Rs 12.35 lakh
• Nexon Diesel - Rs 13.70 lakh
• Harrier - Rs. 21.77 lakh
• Safari 7-seater - Rs 22.61 lakh
• Safari 6-seater - Rs 22.71 lakh

Tata will introduce a new 1.5-litre turbo-petrol engine on the 2023 Harrier and Safari.

A test mule of the Tata Safari facelift has been spotted in the wild. The latest spy images reveal the SUV's exterior design that borrows styling cues from the Harrier EV concept that was showcased at the Auto Expo 2023.

The updated Safari is expected to get a redesigned front fascia featuring a sleeker-looking grille and reworked headlamps. The SUV appears to have an LED light bar up front with the main headlights positioned on the bumper.

While the overall shape of the Safari looks familiar, Tata Motors has cleaned up the rear end with revised LED tail lamp units. The test car seen in these images is also equipped with new design 5-spoke alloy wheels.

The new Harrier and Safari range is expected to carry forward the same set of petrol and diesel engines. That being said, Tata will introduce a new 1.5-litre turbo-petrol engine to the line-up.

Source: Rushlane

Besides the Harrier and Safari, the Nexon will also get the Red Dark edition treatment.

Tata Motors has released a teaser of its upcoming Red Dark Edition models, indicating that the special editions are likely to be launched in the near future.

Interestingly, the teaser video shows a silhouette of three SUVs. Besides the Harrier and Safari, the Nexon will also get the Red Dark edition treatment.

We got our first chance to check out the Harrier and Safari Red Dark Editions at the Auto Expo 2023. Both SUVs get an all-black exterior finish with red highlights, while the interior is wrapped in red upholstery.

A similar theme would be replicated on the Nexon. The crossover will get an all-black exterior with red accents and 16-inch alloy wheels on the outside, along with an interior wrapped in red upholstery.

The Harrier and Safari will be based on their 2023 editions, which come equipped with a 10.25-inch touchscreen infotainment system, a 360-degree camera and several safety features as part of the ADAS suite.

The Harrier and Safari now come with an RDE-compliant 2.0L diesel engine and several advanced safety features.

Tata Motors has taken the wraps off the 2023 Harrier and Safari. Both SUVs get several updates, including Advanced Driver Assistance Systems (ADAS). Bookings are now open.

The 2023 Harrier and Safari come equipped with features such as forward collision warning, autonomous emergency braking, traffic sign recognition, high beam assist, lane departure warning, blind spot detection and lane change alert as part of its ADAS suite. The SUVs also get a 360-degree camera, a panoramic sunroof and ambient lighting. 

Moreover, Tata has also upgraded the infotainment system in the Harrier and Safari. The 8.8-inch unit has been replaced with a 10.25-inch touchscreen, which supports wireless Android Auto and Apple CarPlay. Both SUVs now get updated drive modes, ESP terrain response system and a 7-inch semi-digital instrument cluster as well.

Little has changed under the hood. The 2023 Harrier and Safari carry forward the 2.0-litre diesel engine, which now complies with the RDE norms. It produces 168 BHP and 350 Nm and is mated with either a 6-speed manual or a 6-speed automatic transmission.

Tata Motors will announce the prices for the 2023 Harrier and Safari next month.

This is very different from Ford and Toyota, both cars I've owned where it's very difficult to convince them to replace anything under warranty.

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I am an Ex-Innova owner who bought the Hexa XTA in 2018 and now the Safari automatic in 2022.

Yes, there were a lot of niggling issues initially in the Harrier and Safaris but most of the bigger issues seem to have been resolved.

Oh and unlike the Tata Sales team who don't make a customer feel "special" enough like the Hyundai and Toyota sales staff (this never bothered me), I found the Tata Service centre to be exemplary! At least the one that I bought my cars from- Lexican Motors, Siliguri.

My Safari had harsh rattling noise coming from the gearbox within a month of purchasing it. Checked and found that the thread on the gearbox housing where one of the bolts that connect the Gearbox to the Chassis had slipped.

I was quite alarmed but managed to fix it with a longer bolt and later on applied an adhesive to fix it permanently and it was actually problem solved.

But the Service Manager at Lexican insisted on taking pictures of the gearbox housing fault and reporting it to Tata.

Within a few days, I got a call from some higher-ups in Tata motors, Eastern sector who assured me that they had greenlighted a new Gearbox for me.

This automatic gearbox came in a properly sealed crate and the price was ₹4,93,884. They called me the next week, once the gearbox arrived, installed the new box, fresh from the crate and sent me on my way. No drama, no fuss. I was delighted.

I had a very good experience with them in my previous vehicle - the Hexa also - that gave me the confidence to buy yet another Tata vehicle.

I guess, it's important to find a good service centre and I just happened to get lucky.

This is very different from Ford and Toyota, both cars I've owned where it's very difficult to convince them to replace anything under warranty. If anything goes wrong, they insist it's the fault of the driver and not covered under warranty.

This trend is very similar in motorcycles too. Our Desi Royal Enfield has very good service and has no problems replacing parts under warranty ( I should know, I blew up a Classic 500's brand-new engine on the ride home - 140kms from the showroom. I couldn't resist racing with other bikes and promptly ended up reaching my town with white smoke billowing from my exhaust)

Totally my fault. And the service people promptly put in a completely new engine block, piston, rings- the works, no question asked.

Whereas the Kawasaki folks charged me extra for the most minor stuff like cloth for cleaning after wash etc.

I digress, but the point is, do not get disheartened by horror stories you may hear of a particular brand or the purchase experience not meeting your expectations.

If the vehicle overall is sturdy and basics like engine, gearbox etc are proven -like our Safari and Harrier twins, all you need is a good extended warranty and a good service station. You're good after that.

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