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rsjaurr · 8th December 2006, 20:15

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right now I have put the fader to F4 which gives decent front stage but if its a song which I want to listen loud I need to set the fader to rear as the front cant handle it, so was wondering if powering the fronts with amp would be of any help? Also its mostly me who wants loud music the rear passengers(whenever there are any) hate it when I pump it up

So u should power ur front spk from amp.Not only u will have more loudness up front but also it will bring more clarity as well.

navin · 9th December 2006, 09:52

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Originally Posted by Technocrat

...so was wondering if powering the fronts with amp would be of any help? ....

the front speakers are jarring not because of too much power but becuase of too much LF. so you can either add a bass blocker (simple 6db/oct HPF) or an amp with a HPF. You'll find your front speakers can play louder that way but the bass will have to come from the rear as you will filtering them out of the front speakers.

Sam Kapasi · 9th December 2006, 11:10

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Originally Posted by navin

the front speakers are jarring not because of too much power but becuase of too much LF. .

B-I-NGO, B-I-NGO, B-I-NGO and bingo was his name. That's why I suggest, if you are using an amplifier on most 4" coaxial speakers, keep the hpf on to cut at 100Hz.

navin · 9th December 2006, 11:56

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Originally Posted by Sam Kapasi

B-I-NGO, B-I-NGO, B-I-NGO and bingo was his name..

Sam, it goes and "Bingo was his name-o" trust me I koow nursery rhymes. Can you imagine listening to nursery rhymes via EL34s and ScanSpeaks.

Technocrat · 9th December 2006, 20:18

Thanks Navin :-)

Stupid Q are these bass blockers commonly available at installers? Also any tentative prices if known would help me.

Hmm I think this alone should help, I mean front two 4" sony coax would sound funny I mean how would these powered with amp & all the base coming from sub at boot sound? I mean after powering fronts the rear would not be noticeably heard?

navin · 11th December 2006, 10:27

you can build a bass blocker using 2 470uf electrolytic caps connected in series (back to back). if you want to build a nicer bass blocker connect a 1uf ployester cap in parallel to the above back to back combination.

Sam Kapasi · 11th December 2006, 11:39

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Originally Posted by navin

you can build a bass blocker using 2 470uf electrolytic caps connected in series (back to back). if you want to build a nicer bass blocker connect a 1uf ployester cap in parallel to the above back to back combination.

See here Last post

navin · 11th December 2006, 11:42

Sam, did you draw this out? wow!

Technocrat · 11th December 2006, 11:45

Wow Sam thanks a ton its lot more easier now. Navin's post was bouncer to me(since me not that technical :( ) Now its clear. Mostly i will take a printout of this & go to the installer

Vipul.Sharma · 11th December 2006, 12:10

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Originally Posted by Bass&Trouble

Wow, Vipul Sharma must be an awfully attractive man to turn on a speaker.

Hey man, Its ok i m new to audio and i m not electronic engineer. I m mechanical engineer. After all budget is also a constraint.........Don't under estimate others man........

hydrashok · 11th December 2006, 14:29

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Originally Posted by Vipul.Sharma

Hey man, Its ok i m new to audio and i m not electronic engineer. I m mechanical engineer. After all budget is also a constraint.........Don't under estimate others man........

Hey vipul, chill! B&T was pulling my leg. :-)

Vipul.Sharma · 11th December 2006, 14:44

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Originally Posted by hydrashok

Hey vipul, chill! B&T was pulling my leg. :-)

Its ok yaar.....i m cooooool.........thnks for ur extended help.....

Sam Kapasi · 11th December 2006, 21:31

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Originally Posted by navin

Sam, did you draw this out? wow!

yeah, I saw your post and imagined I was a newbie and, well, just drew it out for the benefit of some. Thanks for the wow though

hydrashok · 11th December 2006, 22:43

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Originally Posted by Sam Kapasi

yeah, I saw your post and imagined I was a newbie and, well, just drew it out for the benefit of some. Thanks for the wow though

Thanks for the effort, Sam. A picture is really worth a thousand words. It made things completely clear for me too.

abhibh · 12th December 2006, 00:02

One of my frnd owns a M800 and wants to go for a JBL sub or Bass tube. Now the confusion which one will be the best bet from below:

JBL 10 Inch Car Subwoofer - GT4-10
JBL 10 Inch Ported Subwoofer Tube for the Car - CS1004T
JBL 12 Inch Car Subwoofer - GT4-12
JBL 12 Inch Ported Subwoofer Tube For the Car - CS1204T

I think the bass tube is just an enclosure with the 10 and 12 inch sub in it. Please tell me if i am wrong ?

Also is Pio sub good or JBL sub ? Budget 5K - 6K for sub for tube 7K. And are these JBL subs DVC ?

Thanks.

9th December 2006, 20:18	#4790
Technocrat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: GTA Posts: 14,765 Thanked: 2,705 Times	Thanks Navin :-) Stupid Q are these bass blockers commonly available at installers? Also any tentative prices if known would help me. Hmm I think this alone should help, I mean front two 4" sony coax would sound funny I mean how would these powered with amp & all the base coming from sub at boot sound? I mean after powering fronts the rear would not be noticeably heard?
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11th December 2006, 10:27	#4791
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,421 Thanked: 9,999 Times	you can build a bass blocker using 2 470uf electrolytic caps connected in series (back to back). if you want to build a nicer bass blocker connect a 1uf ployester cap in parallel to the above back to back combination.
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11th December 2006, 11:42	#4793
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,421 Thanked: 9,999 Times	Sam, did you draw this out? wow!
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11th December 2006, 11:45	#4794
Technocrat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: GTA Posts: 14,765 Thanked: 2,705 Times	Wow Sam thanks a ton its lot more easier now. Navin's post was bouncer to me(since me not that technical :( ) Now its clear. Mostly i will take a printout of this & go to the installer
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abhibh Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Back in the HOOD near you! Posts: 2,768 Thanked: 39 Times	JBLfyed team bhp memebers help needed One of my frnd owns a M800 and wants to go for a JBL sub or Bass tube. Now the confusion which one will be the best bet from below: JBL 10 Inch Car Subwoofer - GT4-10 JBL 10 Inch Ported Subwoofer Tube for the Car - CS1004T JBL 12 Inch Car Subwoofer - GT4-12 JBL 12 Inch Ported Subwoofer Tube For the Car - CS1204T I think the bass tube is just an enclosure with the 10 and 12 inch sub in it. Please tell me if i am wrong ? Also is Pio sub good or JBL sub ? Budget 5K - 6K for sub for tube 7K. And are these JBL subs DVC ? Thanks.
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