[nik0502]

Originally Posted by Mr.Boss

Should not be, unless the amplifier remote signal is tapped from battery +ve

I am not sure what is the remote signal However amp and sub both had their power running from battery.

4 weeks itself is little lesser IMO.
I've parked my cars for 2+ months and never had battery drain issues.

Mentioned four weeks since that’s the maximum I had tested. Mine is a two car garage with a need for one car. So one of the cars always ends up getting parked for extended periods however I make sure to start and drive a little once a month.

[VICTOR-MIKE]

Originally Posted by straight6

my previous car the SX4.

Hi, I am looking for an Audio upgrade on my SX4. Currently the car is running on stock speakers with a generic android HU. I intend to upgrade to the following, step by step. The setup I intend is a SQ setup with more emphasis on melodious, heart melting kind of sound profile.

I am planning the following

• Components for the front. Steg leo 650c or morel maximo 6mk2
• Not replacing the HU, but adding a DSP to enhance the audio quality. Onkyo MD10
• Morel mpd 70.4 amplifier

The subwoofer is where I am a little confused since the boot is isolated from the cabin. Will the bass travel be good enough? I intend to put a 12 inch subwoofer in a sealed box with a mono amp. I do not want window shattering bass but rather a clean deep sustained bass that complements the overall sound.

Also since you have already owned the SX4, what are the essential areas to damp? Any car specific things to keep in mind?

[Sbk__Audiophile]

Originally Posted by VICTOR-MIKE

Hi, I am looking for an Audio upgrade on my SX4. Currently the car is running on stock speakers with a generic android HU. I intend to upgrade to the following, step by step. The setup I intend is a SQ setup with more emphasis on melodious, heart melting kind of sound profile.

I am planning the following

• Components for the front. Steg leo 650c or morel maximo 6mk2
• Not replacing the HU, but adding a DSP to enhance the audio quality. Onkyo MD10
• Morel mpd 70.4 amplifier

The subwoofer is where I am a little confused since the boot is isolated from the cabin. Will the bass travel be good enough? I intend to put a 12 inch subwoofer in a sealed box with a mono amp. I do not want window shattering bass but rather a clean deep sustained bass that complements the overall sound.

Also since you have already owned the SX4, what are the essential areas to damp? Any car specific things to keep in mind?

Since you have already fixed on most of your setup I dont think theres much to advcie on this. Still ill share some insights.

• Since you are installing a subwoofer, an amplifier is mandatory. Now your option for speaker has become vast and below 15K youll be able to have access to good speakers, even some high-end ones pre owned at the price. There are better ones than LEO series I believe. Make sure you like the tonality of speakers and theyre angled properly.
• If youre looking for a basic sub with good SQ, look at options from Helix like K10 or even K12, since the car is a sedan. They require around 250W rms at 4 ohms. A single 4 channel amp should run the front speaker and the subwoofer. Theyre available in Motorogue.
• A DSP if having BT support will be able to give good SQ. Adding a DSP doesnt not mean there will be major changes. If BT supported, it can be made primary source bypassing the Android unit. Note that there wont be playback buttons working. Remote will be needed.

[SNayak]

Hi,

I am in look out for audio upgrade for my Jimny. The plan is to have Component speakers (6.25'') in the front and a detachable sub-woofer in the back (Not the under seat ones). Also I am looking out for DSP + Amplifier to power the components and sub-woofer. So please suggest the component speakers, sub-woofer and DSP + Amplifier ? My budget will be max 30K for all these upgrades. Not looking for loud music rather clear and quality sound.

Thanks in advance.

[tbppjpr]

Originally Posted by SNayak

My budget will be max 30K for all these upgrades. Not looking for loud music rather clear and quality sound.

You will most probably end up with a boomy sounding setup which you will eventually leave listening after few days due to constant headache if you aim to get these many items in this restricted budget of 30K.

I am not fan of DSP and EQs either. Instead you should concentrate finding a good pair of components first which is suitable to your taste by auditioning few speakers multiple times repeatedly in the gap of few days. This step will itself eliminate the need of DSP/EQs.

There must be few reputed audio stores in Bangalore where you can have audition, prepare a playlist with few of your favorite tracks which you regularly listen and then go to the store.

Get the doors damped and get an amp which has inbuilt high-low converter so that you can continue using the stock headunit.

If components are fed with sufficient power in well constructed doors with decent damping, they produce very fine sound with decent enough bass which is more musical than those cheap boomy sounding subs.

Trickiest part is audition, don't take that lightly.

[Sbk__Audiophile]

Originally Posted by SNayak

Hi,

I am in look out for audio upgrade for my Jimny. The plan is to have Component speakers (6.25'') in the front and a detachable sub-woofer in the back (Not the under seat ones). Also I am looking out for DSP + Amplifier to power the components and sub-woofer. So please suggest the component speakers, sub-woofer and DSP + Amplifier ? My budget will be max 30K for all these upgrades. Not looking for loud music rather clear and quality sound.

Thanks in advance.

Let me give you a good idea on the setup.
Damping + Labor would be around 10-15K. That is a mandatory step for SQ.
Speaker Cables + Power Cables + RCA + Converter should be around 12K.
This is the basic expense to keep in mind over the equipment you choose.

In case 30K strict budget for a good setup, I would recommend going for damping in front door and a good SQ oriented plug and play speakers. Something that has the voice coils of the speakers properly working at the power from stock stereo. Add damping to front doors. Keep the Amp + Sub upgrade for later.

In case you can extend little and okay with going preowned route, try Rohan from "audiophyle_preowned" insta page. I've personally got some good high end equipment from him in budget rather than going basic. My Helix DSP he got for me was as good as new and wasn't even installed before. Would personally recommend him.

[SNayak]

Originally Posted by tbppjpr

You will most probably end up with a boomy sounding setup which you will eventually leave listening after few days due to constant headache if you aim to get these many items in this restricted budget of 30K.

Get the doors damped and get an amp which has inbuilt high-low converter so that you can continue using the stock headunit.

If components are fed with sufficient power in well constructed doors with decent damping, they produce very fine sound with decent enough bass which is more musical than those cheap boomy sounding subs.

Trickiest part is audition, don't take that lightly.

Originally Posted by Sbk__Audiophile

Let me give you a good idea on the setup.
Damping + Labor would be around 10-15K. That is a mandatory step for SQ.
Speaker Cables + Power Cables + RCA + Converter should be around 12K.
This is the basic expense to keep in mind over the equipment you choose.

In case 30K strict budget for a good setup, I would recommend going for damping in front door and a good SQ oriented plug and play speakers. Something that has the voice coils of the speakers properly working at the power from stock stereo. Add damping to front doors. Keep the Amp + Sub upgrade for later.

In case you can extend little and okay with going preowned route, try Rohan from "audiophyle_preowned" insta page. I've personally got some good high end equipment from him in budget rather than going basic. My Helix DSP he got for me was as good as new and wasn't even installed before. Would personally recommend him.

Thank you tbppjpr and Sbk__Audiophile for your valuable suggestions. Now I am planning to get the doors damped and put some good component speakers in the front with the budget I have. Keeping the Amp and sub-woofer for later when budget permits. Also I was advised not to have any electronics on the floor as chances of water ingress during off-roading can cause issues to these items.

There is a kit from Pioneer specially made for Jimny and planning to go with that which would cost around 18K. This covers front Components, rear Co-axial and brackets. Details here - https://pioneer-india.in/sound-package/

Do you recommended any other component speakers which might be better compared to Pionir in the budget of 15K ?

[Sbk__Audiophile]

Originally Posted by SNayak

Thank you tbppjpr and Sbk__Audiophile for your valuable suggestions. Now I am planning to get the doors damped and put some good component speakers in the front with the budget I have. Keeping the Amp and sub-woofer for later when budget permits. Also I was advised not to have any electronics on the floor as chances of water ingress during off-roading can cause issues to these items.

There is a kit from Pioneer specially made for Jimny and planning to go with that which would cost around 18K. This covers front Components, rear Co-axial and brackets. Details here - https://pioneer-india.in/sound-package/

Do you recommended any other component speakers which might be better compared to Pioneer in the budget of 15K ?

Had a talk with one installer in Kochi "Tuneup Pro Audio". Owner Shajas mentioned stuff is mediocre and easiness of installation is the only plus point. You can contact him or Ill put my installers number. 3 Jimnies are inline for Audio with him currently.

9995140325 - Rohan

Regards,

[straight6]

Originally Posted by VICTOR-MIKE

Hi, I am looking for an Audio upgrade on my SX4. Currently the car is running on stock speakers with a generic android HU. I intend to upgrade to the following, step by step. The setup I intend is a SQ setup with more emphasis on melodious, heart melting kind of sound profile.

I am planning the following

• Components for the front. Steg leo 650c or morel maximo 6mk2
• Not replacing the HU, but adding a DSP to enhance the audio quality. Onkyo MD10
• Morel mpd 70.4 amplifier

The subwoofer is where I am a little confused since the boot is isolated from the cabin. Will the bass travel be good enough? I intend to put a 12 inch subwoofer in a sealed box with a mono amp. I do not want window shattering bass but rather a clean deep sustained bass that complements the overall sound.

Also since you have already owned the SX4, what are the essential areas to damp? Any car specific things to keep in mind?

I had only damped the doors and boot lid but I would suggest entire car from top to bottom as I've done with my dzire now. Makes a big difference.

[condor]

Originally Posted by VICTOR-MIKE

The subwoofer is where I am a little confused since the boot is isolated from the cabin. Will the bass travel be good enough?

Subwoofers play the lower frequencies which do travel sufficiently well from the boot. And this is also the reason why, if the sub is played loud enough, you can hear those frequencies even outside your car. Just try to recollect instances where you are driving and you hear the beats from a sub in some one else's car.

[Sbk__Audiophile]

Originally Posted by condor

Subwoofers play the lower frequencies which do travel sufficiently well from the boot. And this is also the reason why, if the sub is played loud enough, you can hear those frequencies even outside your car. Just try to recollect instances where you are driving and you hear the beats from a sub in some one else's car.

Agree on the point. High frequency is directional hence we Angle mount them. Lower frequencies are not directional. Hence good to go

[sunny_0371]

Hello everyone,

I need some advice on whether an under-seat subwoofer would be a good addition to my audio setup.

I have an Ertiga VXI CNG(2016) and recently upgraded the audio system with the following components:

Pioneer TS-A1608C Component Speakers in both the front and back (80W RMS).
Caska S-60 Stereo with 4+64GB, featuring an inbuilt amplifier that supports 50W RMS across 4 channels.
Pioneer 1.8mm dual-layer damping on all 4 doors.

The current setup sounds great up to about 60% volume, but I notice distortion above that level, likely due to the amp’s limited power output. I discussed this with the dealer, who is open to making changes based on my needs.

I'm considering adding an active under-seat subwoofer to handle the bass frequencies. My thinking is that by offloading bass to a dedicated subwoofer, the component speakers could perform better at higher volumes, requiring less power for bass production.

Here are the options I’m considering:

Pioneer TS-WX130EA (40 Hz to 200 Hz)
Blaupunkt XLF10A (32 Hz to 5000 Hz)
I’d appreciate feedback on these options or any other recommendations you might have.

Alternatively, would it be better to install an external amplifier with the stock stereo? I understand that would also likely require new wiring.

I’m looking for tight, punchy bass rather than a booming sound. Any suggestions or insights would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

[greenhorn]

Are you getting distortion with some sort of bass boost, or with flat eq?
Does your head unit have a sub out / any pre outs at all and high pass functionality?

Between the two I would pick the blaupunkt any day. Once you see/hear them in person the difference would become very obvious to you as well

[sunny_0371]

It is with bass boost i didn't try at flat eq, will try it first thing today. I am not able to answer the other question as I don't understand those terms. But i am attaching a image of the Stereo specifications if that helps.

In case of subwoofers are we missing much as frequencies below 32Hz are not supported by blaupunkt?

[sunny_0371]

So i checked the speakers at flat eq they sound good till 90% sound now.

I was using it with custom eq set by the dealer. Couldn't test it much there as my car battery had drained completely during installation. It took me sometime figuring out EQ and other settings.

I am planning to add a under seat subwoofer today. I think that should help tap into full potential of the speakers.