[CTA_35]

Originally Posted by S1200

I have installed pioneer 5290 with JL C1 650 components at front and JL C1 650x coaxials at rear of my dzire LXI recently purchased. I have done the speakers connection through cars stock wiring harness.

I've the same HU and contemplating to get JL C1 650 components for both Front & Rear doors of my Honda City.

Would you minding sharing the below details

1. how these components pair with 5290 HU and the overall improvement you achieved over stock setup.
2. Felt the need to add an Amp to extract more from these speakers?
3. Did you audition any other speakers before deciding on these JL?.

[redCherry]

Hi,

I have
Sony XAV-5500 HU,
Morel Maximo Ultra 602 MKII Components at the front, and stock speakers (RL, RR), driven by
Pioneer GM-D8704 4-Ch amp.
All doors are dampened.

Despite this setup, I am feeling I'm missing the thump of the bass in songs and hence considering this active sub -

Blaupunkt Xlf 10A

But I noticed that this sealed-enclosure, slim passive sub, MTX RTF10AS, is also priced similar.

Any suggestion which would be better - Active (XLF10A) or passive (MTX).
If I choose passive sub, then the rear speakers would be driven directly by HU.

How is Zoook Monster 8-inch Active sub, compared to Blaupunkt 10A, by the way?

[S1200]

Originally Posted by CTA_35

I've the same HU and contemplating to get JL C1 650 components for both Front & Rear doors of my Honda City.

Would you minding sharing the below details

1. how these components pair with 5290 HU and the overall improvement you achieved over stock setup.
2. Felt the need to add an Amp to extract more from these speakers?
3. Did you audition any other speakers before deciding on these JL?.

HI CTA_35

The combination of JL 650 components with Pioneer 5290 will give you sound quality which is very tight, bright and clear (provided the source is good).

The dullness felt in stock and low budget speakers is totally absent here. I recommend to go for components only and not co-axials.

My car was basic variant, so didn't had audio setup. But this combination of course, can definitely not be compared to majority of stock setups because the HU really plays true sound compared to frequency-altered stock HU and components produce tight bass.

I hadn’t done audition for speakers and neither heard sound of this price range aftemarket speakers. I had Skoda Kodaiq 2019 with Canton Subwoofer as daily drive for 11 months; had boston ovals (6”x9”), sony coaxials (6.5”), JBL bass-tube (12”), Accoudio bass-tube in my previous cars; have listened some stock setups including Skoda Laura (4 speakers+4 tweeters) 2012, C 200d 2018, A3 25 TFSi 2017, TATA Tiago JBL (4 speakers+4 tweeters) 2021 setup and some more.

As far as my experience; with 6.5” stock and other speakers (low budget speakers), you will get bass, maybe very big bass but it may be hollow, which can only be heard and not felt (vibrations/thump) (physical limitations of size) and not tight at all and dull sound. Equal budget stock speaker will give you more or equal sound quality and but the bass may definitely not be tight.

JL 650 components will give you absolutely tight, with awesome and sweet sufficiently deep thump. JL 650 components are truly to go for its tight & sweet bass quality. I think the quality of bass is outstanding for 6.5” speakers. (JL 650 co-axials have disappointing bass quality and I am regretting with my purchase for rear doors due to the bass quality offered by components in comparison).

I am yet to install amplifier and experiencing wide range of bass thumps with different tracks. Although, without amplifier, it will produce equally tight bass, but some tracks will give the bass which will shatter doors and some will be so less that at low volumes, the road noise will cancel it. Although the sound quality without amplifier is very good (beyond my expectation), bright, clear and surround.

I feel the need to install amplifier to get that awesome tight bass from components uniformly with every track, most probably in Diwali (to fulfill the itch to spend money)

[greenhorn]

Originally Posted by redCherry

Any suggestion which would be better - Active (XLF10A) or passive (MTX).
If I choose passive sub, then the rear speakers would be driven directly by HU.

How is Zoook Monster 8-inch Active sub, compared to Blaupunkt 10A, by the way?

Bhpian Reinhard has installed a zook sub in his Nexon and seems happy with it. All other things being equal, a 10 inch sub will sound better than a 8 inch. I recently got a blaupunkt 8" and found it better than my sony xs aw8.
If you can put a full size sub, then why are you even bothering with underseat subs? They are inferior, in terms of output, and only used when you need boot space badly. If a full size sub is possible, then go for it by all means. I used to have one and i miss mine. Had to give it up due to needs of the family

[CTA_35]

Originally Posted by S1200

I feel the need to install amplifier to get that awesome tight bass from components uniformly with every track, most probably in Diwali (to fulfill the itch to spend money)

Thanks for sharing your feedback S1200, it's quite helpful.

I found the Honda City speakers to be decent enough, hence was wondering if JL C1 would bring any considerable improvement. If you give away to the itch, please do let us know your findings, cheers!!

[CannedShroud]

Hi guys, I am looking to upgrade by Audio setup in my Tata Altroz, It is currently running the stock Harman system (4 speakers, 4 tweeters). with a 8 inch under-seat sub.

I am playing with a budget around 40-60k (damping separately). Here is a suggested list, I am hoping someone could guide me around this..

Front: SONY ES XS-162ES comps
Back: SONY ES XS-160ES coaxs
Amp: SONY G24

I am planning on retaining the sub, but shifting it in the boot rather than the under-seat position. I am also not a fan about the 3-slider EQ in my stock HU. I was trying to compare the ES comps with Audison Voce AV K6, and Audison Prima APK 165P. But I cannot come to a conclusion as to which path I should take. I am open to switching out my stock HU as well - provided there would be a way I could retain the AC temp reading.

Hoping someone could guide me in the right direction here, thanks in advance.

Regards

[somebodystopme]

Hello guys,
I have Honda city 2022 zxi. A while ago I installed following equipment in it with stock HU.
Rainbow components set of 4 on all four doors,
Rainbow amp 4 channel,
Rainbow mono amp for Sub,
Blaupunkt Sub in an enclosure
And
Nakamichi DSP.


Along with monster brand wiring. Unfortunately everytime the car comes back from honda they mess the wiring and the car store which installed are not doing good job anymore. They dont understand concept of stereo speaker system. They always set my speakers to mono.

I am looking for audio enthusiast cum installer in delhi NCR, who can take up the job on paid basis ofcourse and gives his best. I spoke with a few big names but since I already have the equipment they didnt seem interested.

Greatly appreciate if someone can refer a pro.

[lxskllr]

Originally Posted by somebodystopme

I am looking for audio enthusiast cum installer in delhi NCR, who can take up the job on paid basis ofcourse and gives his best. I spoke with a few big names but since I already have the equipment they didnt seem interested.

Greatly appreciate if someone can refer a pro.

Did you try motor concept, Delhi?

[vinvin]

Hello folks,
I got on the bandwagon of upgrading the ICE on my EV
The stock speakers that come up with MG ZS are bad. I went with the recommendations of a popular dealer in Bangalore and went with a brand called 'Audible Physics' with their Tandav series. It is still bad!

I don't want to risk the warranty of my car and go for an Amplifier.
I want a setup that essentially replaces the stock speakers.

I have a 5.1 setup at my home and I do know how important every equipment is in the audio chain. I'm a newbie when it comes to cars and here is my question:
Is it possible to get a good sound setup with just tweeters and components. (I have got damping on the doors.)

The baseline of 'good sound setup' for me is able to listen songs fatigue free.

Would having high sensitivity speakers (>= 92dB) solve my issue?

The other major issue I have with ICE is that there is no chance of demoing the speakers. You just have to blindly go with the suggestion of a dealer and expect that it turns out to be good! Being new to the car audio game, I don't know if this is standard?

Please help.

[heydj]

Originally Posted by somebodystopme

I am looking for audio enthusiast cum installer in delhi NCR, who can take up the job on paid basis ofcourse and gives his best. I spoke with a few big names but since I already have the equipment they didnt seem interested.

Greatly appreciate if someone can refer a pro.

Last year I got my Tucson audio install done from Autoform Store Lajpat Nagar. He was recommended to me by fellow bhpian. So Autoform is not a specialist in installs anymore and just car accessories shop but as per fellow bhpian 10 years back he used to do good install. So trusting that I got my car install done and am satisfied.

I did not buy any equipment instead just got install and tunning done.

My setup is:
-Stock Tucson Infinity system with stock woofer and amp.
- Kicker subwoofer that came with its own box
- Focal amp.
- Blaupunkt wirring kit and high low converter.


Installer did not touch car install instead put in wirring and kit for woofer and amp. My one requirement was no taking out of seats, no head unit or doors opening instead minimal touching of car to get above done. Met all my requirements.

I listen to Trance, Techno and Rock. System meets my requirements.

[Crazy_cars_guy]

Dear folks,

Request for your advice on the below please.

I am looking to replace the head unit on my Honda City ZX. Have changed the front speakers and tweeters to Audible Physics, and the rear speakers to Helix. Though the quality has increased, albeit it is just slightly better to the OEM setup.

I have been told that this is due to the weak power output from the OEM head unit. The installer's solution was to add an Amplifier, which I am not keen on until my car warranty is in place.

So, the other option would be to change the head unit itself. This is where I need your help and advise, per my pre-requisite:

Pre-requisite :
As aforementioned, I drive a Honda City ZX (bought in April 2023). This trim has a camera for left lane which activates when the left indicator is turned on. There is also a dedicated button to switch on the camera as needed. My wife and I have got used to this setup and rely on it a lot.

The new head unit must have this capability to support lane assist camera.

Requesting your thoughts on which after market head unit can support this. Please note, I do not want an Android unit. Would prefer the known brands, with special preference towards Kenwood, JVC, Alpine, Sony and Pioneer - in that order.

Budget is capped at max Rs. 50 thousand.

Any thoughts please?

[lxskllr]

Originally Posted by Crazy_cars_guy

Requesting your thoughts on which after market head unit can support this. Please note, I do not want an Android unit. Would prefer the known brands, with special preference towards Kenwood, JVC, Alpine, Sony and Pioneer - in that order.

Budget is capped at max Rs. 50 thousand.

Any thoughts please?

You don't have to let go of your OEM head unit. You can get decent DSP amplifier in this budget, which will take the output from the stock head unit and then amplify it and send it to the speakers. Don't replace your OEM unit.

Check with your local installers for this setup.

[Crazy_cars_guy]

Originally Posted by lxskllr

You don't have to let go of your OEM head unit. You can get decent DSP amplifier in this budget, which will take the output from the stock head unit and then amplify it and send it to the speakers. Don't replace your OEM unit.

Check with your local installers for this setup.

Dear lxskllr,

Thanks for your reply.

As mentioned in my above post, I am not keen on getting amplifier / DSP setup until my car warranty is valid. Just don't want to touch with the wiring, buss.

Any ideas on the head unit though?

[Mr.Boss]

Originally Posted by Crazy_cars_guy

As mentioned in my above post, I am not keen on getting amplifier / DSP setup until my car warranty is valid. Just don't want to touch with the wiring, buss.

Replacing HU will also void warranty.
Adding DSP + Amp is the viable solution to extract better output from the already installed aftermarket speakers.

[prashantuchil]

Originally Posted by Crazy_cars_guy

As mentioned in my above post, I am not keen on getting amplifier / DSP setup until my car warranty is valid. Just don't want to touch with the wiring, buss.

Just FYI - cutting of wires is not required for installing the DSP/Amp - so it should not void any warranties.