[AkMar]

Originally Posted by kavesh55

Regarding the interiors, why is BEST sticking for plastic seats in the buses. The are low quality and not comfortable as metal and wooden ones. Personally experienced it.

The newer buses are having the old type metal-wood seats. There are at least 10 brand new buses with old design seats.

[fx45]

The newer BEST buses which are being allotted in Deonar Depot are now back again fitted with old style seats and the normal up down windos instead of the sliding ones which were recently introduced.

Seems BEST is taking the Back to Basics Theory for their upcoming newly delivered buses.

THe first one to see this new-old change is MHO1LA 6663

[prmd_cochin]

Well this is something that i found. Earlier Mahindra and Navistar had done a tie up on jointly designing and developing CVs. The first product is out, wonder why it missed public and media attention. Its called the Navistar Neobus midibus(below), isnt ground breaking design. But will definitely come with the reliability that M&M is known for.

[prmd_cochin]

Originally Posted by binaiks

I guess you are talking about the seats arranged side-wise. Volvo doesn't have such seats. Instead, the wheel base is designed in a different fashion, thereby enabling them to have "normal" seats on them. A full "two-seater" is placed on the wheel well, in a manner that the "base" of the seat is mounted on the well. (I am at loss of words to explain it clearly).

The front overhang on the Volvo is also longer than the Marcopolo. Thus, they could have the two-piece front door, as well as a seat ahead of the wheel-well. Look at the attached image. The single seat, near the door, is mounted on one side of the "Wheel-well", while the seat facing "backward" is on the other side of the well.

In the attached image, you'd see that the seat that front end is raised, much higher than the other seats. I've added an approximate drawing of how the layout looks like (Note: It is NOT to scale).

I dont think so that these kinds of seating arrangement would be advisable on intra city buses, atleast in India. Buses are MASS movers in India where people dont give much a care for the aesthetics. Older bench seats are better as it also gives enough passage way for more to stand.

I know its a pretty 'old mans' view, but we need to be practical, atleast in India.

[maddy42]

I travelled by the corona and found the engine lagging compare to a volvo. The suspension also made me sense all bumps.

[directinjection]

Originally Posted by D.V.R

It looks good but atleast they could have used better HL&TL.The first one has HL &TL lift off rom the first gen Sumo

No head or tail lights were designed by Tata for Sumo which was mostly built from pre-existing components borrowed from other vehicles. First gen Sumo TL is actually the regular 4-chamber TL that has been doing duty on Tata CVs since early 1980s, only that in Sumo it is affixed vertically, not horizontally. Its quality is highly substandard both in terms of illumination and bulb longivity. It has no reflectors. And yes, when affixed vertically (as in 1-Gen Sumo or Tata-Marco), it looks UGLY.

Even Ashok Leyland was using the same design till a few years back when they got the design altered a bit by redesigning the middle two chambers which have become a little thicker in the process, improving both aesthetics and illumination.

Originally Posted by D.V.R

and the second one has the TL of the Victa.

Tata-Marcopolo buses do not use Victa TL (which is actually of much better quality). The picture here featuring TL of Victa isn't a Tata-Marco bus.

Originally Posted by binaiks

The bus had a Manual Transmission. (According to the driver, the other bus given to BMTC has an Auto Box).

All Tata-Marcos in Delhi have automatic, clutchless transmission. Even the non-AC ones.

[raj_5004]

just asking for GK:
which trucks are the best among these- tata, ashok leyland or eicher?

[Mpower]

Originally Posted by prmd_cochin

Well this is something that i found. Earlier Mahindra and Navistar had done a tie up on jointly designing and developing CVs. The first product is out, wonder why it missed public and media attention. Its called the Navistar Neobus midibus(below), isnt ground breaking design. But will definitely come with the reliability that M&M is known for.

First of all you need to indicate the source of your information. Secondly this bus is meant for Mexico and Latin America and I have not seen any news that the Mahindra JV will launch this.

[binaiks]

Originally Posted by prmd_cochin

I dont think so that these kinds of seating arrangement would be advisable on intra city buses, atleast in India. Buses are MASS movers in India where people dont give much a care for the aesthetics. Older bench seats are better as it also gives enough passage way for more to stand.

I know its a pretty 'old mans' view, but we need to be practical, atleast in India.

Cannot agree with you sir! The talk is about the higher end buses in city - Volvos and other AC buses. The economy in India is still not powerful enough to use these buses as "MASS Movers", and such buses are still reserved for the privileged few.

The arrangement that I had mentioned is making full utlisation of space available inside, unlike the marco which is wasting space around its wheel wells.

Either I am understanding wrong, or you are replying to someone else

[sajo]

Found this pretty interesting price list, which lists out the indicative prices from most CVs as well. Stumbled upon it on the government of Rajasthan's transport site, do not remember the exact URL.

Price List 2008-09.pdf

[binaiks]

Originally Posted by maddy42

I travelled by the corona and found the engine lagging compare to a volvo. The suspension also made me sense all bumps.

It has to be lagging! Compared to the 290hp powering the Volvo, the Corona has a meagre 160hp Cummins engine!

I had a Volvo experience last night, and the driver was picking up to 100kmph with ease and on gradients! I loved the trip, especially since my seat was diagonally behind him, and I could see the speedo clearly!

[Trapezio]

Guys... Any news on this Daimler Hero jv? I have heard that they were going to assemble some trucks in India.

[GTO]

Originally Posted by sajo

Found this pretty interesting price list, which lists out the indicative prices from most CVs as well. Stumbled upon it on the government of Rajasthan's transport site, do not remember the exact URL.

Attachment 76290

Where are the Volvos?

[prmd_cochin]

Originally Posted by Mpower

First of all you need to indicate the source of your information. Secondly this bus is meant for Mexico and Latin America and I have not seen any news that the Mahindra JV will launch this.

This is the link.

Busworld.org portal | All the latest information about the world of buses and coaches

I didnt say this is coming to India, neither i rules that out. This was jointly designed/devloped by Mahindra and so was happy about it and shared the same.

[prmd_cochin]

Originally Posted by raj_5004

just asking for GK:
which trucks are the best among these- tata, ashok leyland or eicher?

I thins its the Leyland.