Here is my 2-bit worth analysis from reading this thread (in its entirety):
1. There will be some small niggles here and there in all product types.
At the two ends of the spectrum - (A) at this end where everything will work perfectly 99.99999% of the times like in a Rolls Royce for example, which could last for decades together - each car is hand built, etc. etc. and you pay for the worksmanship (and the service). (Z) At the other, you will pay very little upfront and already factor in the fact about high maintenance costs in your decision (Tata Indica first version??)
What (most) people expect and their decision is based on is a good balance between the two ends. Some may be closer to A and some closer to Z. If I were to generalize and divide the spectrum midway between A & Z, Japanese cars are considered to be in the A half and of the spectrum and European or even Indian cars considered in the Z half.
With Honda, based on their historical performance, people have expected it to be closer to A and have suddenly found it to be inching towards Z from its earlier position, which makes people (especially owners) very very unhappy & angry. (How about India losing cricket match to a Bangladesh/Netherlands/Canada).
This become even more aggravated when your closest comparable (I am not using the word competitor), Toyota, still seems to retain its position on the spectrum.
2. Service - A fair bit of the problem could also be the attitude of the service centres and people there. They might have become 'lethargic' with their position on the spectrum that they do not listen to 'customer feedback' about their slipping position, till perhaps it is too late. I have read the term 'devils for dealers' in some of the car reviews of other brands.
Today, all business has become a 'service' business where your customer is well travelled, well pampered, etc. in all fields. It has become a buyer's market and gone are the days when it was a 'sellers market' where the choice was limited and people had to buy a Ambasaddor / M800 or had to fly Air India despite delays & cancellations.
When the service standards do not match the customer's expectation (no feedback loop), owners get even more angry.
I faced a problem with my Access 125 scooter where they it took me 3 trips back-to-back to the service centre to get a noise (from the gear outer belt or something) rectified. In the first 2 trips the guys (sales staff who make the service sheet and dont seem know much about the vehicle and are just like clerks) just denied there was any noise till I had to go and explain it to a mechnic who figured out the problem in less than 30 seconds.
Thereore, if people put you on a 'pedestal' by buying your products by the thousands, they have the right to bring you down to ground from the clouds as well. Most problems would get solved if the service centre people actually listen to the customer and try to understand thinkgs the way a 'layman' feels it, which doesnt happen.
3. Majority Rule - Generally, niggles will be there in all products but as a rule majority of the customers of a particular product should not face it or atleast the niggles should be small enough to be rectified easily without much cost (what is majority is arguable and you have the Six Sigma rating and many other systems for this). This is something that buyers expect i.e. majority of the consumers should have a problem-free experience. If it goes the other way, there is a problem.
4. Localization - Many people in this thread mentioned that localisation is the reason why the quality seems to have gone down. I tend to disagree. I firmly believe, 'you pay for what you get and you get what you pay for' - relevant here from the car manufacturer's perspective. Therefore, if you want a certain quality of product, the local OEM manufacturer will also deliver it at a 'price'. Case in point, Sodexho, world's largest contract catering company can feed you a meal for Rs. 30-40 as well as Rs. 300 per person - you need to tell them what you want.
5. Timing of the problem - I would like to reproduce another TBHP link on extended warranty -
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/buying...yes-no-14.html.
If you see Wagon R Rocks post, there is a chart that very nicely summarizes it - the failure potential is very high in the early days and very late days of a life of a car. Isnt this why you have all these companies testing their vehicles (with appropriate comouflage) in 'actual' road conditions. Also, the fact that the reports & customer feedback from earlier batches are used in the subsequen batches. Did Honda miss something??
Finally my suggestion - Given today's highly organized IT systems, all car companies should run a data sheet similar to what CD had done based on all units of a particular car model sold till date. They can easily run such output based on the service records and complaints during service visits. And then use it to iron out the problems from the next batch. Not sure if companies already do it and if yes, do it well?
But as a side thought, shouldnt such data be made available to the public mandatorily by a regulatory authority (obviously the manufacturer will not do it) - something similar to when the IRDA publishes details on claim settlement ratios, number of unsettled claims, etc. for all insurers so that people can decide. I know this is being too optimistic but would be worthwhile & useful for the entire industry.
Disclosure - My cousin owns a 2nd hand City dolphin nose 2008 or thereabouts and it has run 40-50k (first owner) and another 130-150k (my cousin, who converted it to CNG). I think it is a very smooth car to drive even after running almost 200,000 km., of course with some issues like power windows not working properly, etc. but no problem with the key requirement - 'driveability'. No ownership / driving experience whatsoever of newer version.