Mahindra-Renault`s Logan EDIT: Launched at 4.3 - 6.5lac

Wimwian · 3rd April 2007, 22:25

Why is there so much difference in prices between the GL and GLE - 45K difference for power steering???? Or am I missing something...

V-16 · 3rd April 2007, 23:43

I think the've blundered on the price front. What with advertising that this is going to be a loaded car for max 5.5 lakhs, the've gone a bit too ambitious. The car looks real good tough but they have to have exceptional build quality and a terrific engine and ride, if they are to succeed. You cant take Indians for a ride anymore.
Dont think the suzuki or the Indigo need to worry. They are still far away from these prices and i mean in the lower front. I think tthis will have to compete more with the cars a notch higher.
Liked the interiors but looking at the real thing and in pics are two different things. The switches look pretty tacky i think. Will have to see her in person.

MaserQ · 3rd April 2007, 23:55

The exteriors look like, well..Dacia. Interiors look decent from the pics, but i wonder if that and the levels of localisation has pushed prices beyond the Logan's natural benchmark - the indigo. Awaiting build quality and A.S.S report in the near future...

Zappo · 4th April 2007, 00:23

I do not know whether only I had this feeling but looking at that dashboard I felt one can not keep anything on it. Its kind of slopey and anything kept on it will inevitably land up on the floor or your lap.

By the way in the Controls and Instrumentation they say the advanced driver information system updates you of "...predicted fuel autonomy...". Now what is that again? They have already mentioned about showing fuel consumption figures on the same line, earlier... so it has to be something else... but what?

nevertouchme · 4th April 2007, 00:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by abdul 65 amg

It is a bad car, just lies on the official website , they tell "redefining luxury" hahahahahaha.

Just one word for those many crores of Investment? Well, may be not.

Quote:

Originally Posted by abdul 65 amg

I think the car is still expensive , it should give in the basic version airbag to be really modern, when someone will see a Logan on the road you will find it ugly for sure.

As nitrous had already told about this part.... I am unable to comment more in this...

Quote:

Originally Posted by abdul 65 amg

Have some in Belgium.Buy a Honda Jazz at least or a Tata Indigo .

" Taste Differs " - Proverb ! - May be can say Universal Truth !

Quote:

Originally Posted by abdul 65 amg

I guess the LOGAN doesnt have a network for the maintenance

[/quote]

Too early to decide / comment ? I think most of the Scorpio owners are not having problems with regards to poor service network. I am afraid i may be wrong. If every thing is perfect, life would be most boring...

I remember TATA quality issues - Are we not living with it? They do make great cars, not the best ones.

Each and every thing in this world have / had / has an issue. Life is like that...

Yes, 155 MM ground clearance is a major threat in Indian roads with a fully loaded car. Let's wait and watch the reviews...

I shall go for a test drive this weekend and shall post my observation...

Cheers'
Jai

swathyd · 4th April 2007, 01:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by dhiman

From the photographs, it looks good. Looks like the GL and GLE variants dont any difference other than the power steeing. The Red, Green and White colors are not available for GL/GLE

The dashboard doesnt look very attractive atleast from the pics.
I think they should have priced it a little more aggressively.

Lets see who gets us the first review now

I have seen it on ndtv profit and the dash doesnt have that cheap look. It looks good, resembles ford fiesta s' dash with those round vents.

BUSA · 4th April 2007, 01:17

One thing is good, unlike most manufactures the diesel has all the features of the petrol.

abdul 65 amg · 4th April 2007, 02:50

Nitrous I am from bangladesh and I live in Europe but I think that India needs safer car than in the past.India is a great country where everything is possible ,people are very able , India will be very soon one fo the leading world economy.

v1p3r · 4th April 2007, 04:47

I would like to drive the 1.6 petrol. Does Pete have anything for the diesel? It seems a little low on juice.

Quote:

Originally Posted by abdul 65 amg

India is a great country where everything is possible ,people are very able , India will be very soon one fo the leading world economy.

Thank you, Abdul. I'm sure this process would go faster if you would lend us your cricket team.

4th April 2007, 08:31

I really do not understand why so many people are obsessed with the 'low' ground clearance of 'only' 155mm.

If anyone here bothered to read the specification for speed breakers, one would realize that 155mm is actually more than enough for a car with Logan's wheelbase/length to travel safely over speed breakers.

Just because there is not one literate civil engineer in India, and contractors keep making speed breakers of random specification, often inspired by the Himalayas, does not mean that the car manufacturers have to tolerate this buffoonery. How long must the manufacturers suffer because of others incompetence?

The car is perfectly fine. The problem is the roads, and the people who make the roads. At some point you have to stop increasing the ground clearance to absurd proportions which also compromises the handling of the car.

Since we as a nation can't make one decent speedbreaker, it would be better to do away with them alltogether. And let the engineers design cars for best ride and handling, as they see fit.

ggkg · 4th April 2007, 08:41

Our speedbreakers are actually bone breakers. There was an interview by a neuro surgeon in some paper about how bad for bones/spine they are. Normally speedbreakers should make it uncomfortable to go fast and not harsh if you travel slow. Our speedbreakers injure the spine at any speed. Some are horribly created, often by villagers / shopkeepers to divert or slow down traffic deliberately.

However, we cannot let our engineers design cars based on some ideal utopian road condition - after all we have to drive them on todays' streets. Bad roads, monsoon, horrible breakers, these are not going to change in our lifetime so best to get a car that is designed to live with it.

sgmuser · 4th April 2007, 08:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by v1p3r

Thank you, Abdul. I'm sure this process would go faster if you would lend us your cricket team.

Funny you Viper...good one really! but, ppl still want to follow cricket in India?

"....than enough for a car with Logan's wheelbase/length to travel safely over speed breakers..."

Here people are not just worried about the speed breakers, actually more worried and annoyed about the potholes in our Metros like Pune/Bangalore and Chennai.

DriverR · 4th April 2007, 08:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperSyn

The car is perfectly fine. The problem is the roads, and the people who make the roads.

I agree totally! But sadly the kind of speed bumps one can see sometimes on the road forces one to look at ground clearance. And if one drives on highways and non-expressways roads especially after the monsoons, you will find 'roads' that require a car with a decent ground clearance.

Anyways, these are just my thoughts on this issue!

If we had good roads, then who cares about ground clearance... Not me!

THE-U- · 4th April 2007, 09:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperSyn

Since we as a nation can't make one decent speedbreaker, it would be better to do away with them alltogether. And let the engineers design cars for best ride and handling, as they see fit.

Man, your comments are quite scathing, don't you think? What is easy, designing a footwear for the foot or doing a surgery on the foot? Don't go on blaming all the civil engineers of India. If Logan scrapes the bottom, it will definitely be Renault's (and Mahindra's) fault. I am sure the roads department has its specs for the speed breakers. Did you know some of these so called speed breakers are constructed by locals?

nispatel · 4th April 2007, 09:08

Anyone has any idea on suspension setup on Logan, perticularly rear one as most modern cars have McPherson Strut in front anyway...

By the way, car looks good as far as I can see by looking at it's website. I think this car will click...

3rd April 2007, 22:25	#166
Wimwian BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 191 Thanked: 5 Times View My Garage	Why is there so much difference in prices between the GL and GLE - 45K difference for power steering???? Or am I missing something...
	() Thanks

3rd April 2007, 23:43	#167
V-16 Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: mumbai Posts: 4,594 Thanked: 950 Times View My Garage	I think the've blundered on the price front. What with advertising that this is going to be a loaded car for max 5.5 lakhs, the've gone a bit too ambitious. The car looks real good tough but they have to have exceptional build quality and a terrific engine and ride, if they are to succeed. You cant take Indians for a ride anymore. Dont think the suzuki or the Indigo need to worry. They are still far away from these prices and i mean in the lower front. I think tthis will have to compete more with the cars a notch higher. Liked the interiors but looking at the real thing and in pics are two different things. The switches look pretty tacky i think. Will have to see her in person. Last edited by V-16 : 3rd April 2007 at 23:45.
	() Thanks

3rd April 2007, 23:55	#168
MaserQ Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,196 Thanked: 166 Times	The exteriors look like, well..Dacia. Interiors look decent from the pics, but i wonder if that and the levels of localisation has pushed prices beyond the Logan's natural benchmark - the indigo. Awaiting build quality and A.S.S report in the near future...
	() Thanks

4th April 2007, 00:23	#169
Zappo Team-BHP Support Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 5,922 Thanked: 2,699 Times	I do not know whether only I had this feeling but looking at that dashboard I felt one can not keep anything on it. Its kind of slopey and anything kept on it will inevitably land up on the floor or your lap. By the way in the Controls and Instrumentation they say the advanced driver information system updates you of "...predicted fuel autonomy...". Now what is that again? They have already mentioned about showing fuel consumption figures on the same line, earlier... so it has to be something else... but what?
	() Thanks

4th April 2007, 01:17	#172
BUSA Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,130 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	One thing is good, unlike most manufactures the diesel has all the features of the petrol.
	() Thanks

4th April 2007, 02:50	#173
abdul 65 amg BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Brussels Posts: 252 Thanked: Once	Nitrous I am from bangladesh and I live in Europe but I think that India needs safer car than in the past.India is a great country where everything is possible ,people are very able , India will be very soon one fo the leading world economy.
	() Thanks

4th April 2007, 08:31	#175
SuperSyn Posts: n/a	I really do not understand why so many people are obsessed with the 'low' ground clearance of 'only' 155mm. If anyone here bothered to read the specification for speed breakers, one would realize that 155mm is actually more than enough for a car with Logan's wheelbase/length to travel safely over speed breakers. Just because there is not one literate civil engineer in India, and contractors keep making speed breakers of random specification, often inspired by the Himalayas, does not mean that the car manufacturers have to tolerate this buffoonery. How long must the manufacturers suffer because of others incompetence? The car is perfectly fine. The problem is the roads, and the people who make the roads. At some point you have to stop increasing the ground clearance to absurd proportions which also compromises the handling of the car. Since we as a nation can't make one decent speedbreaker, it would be better to do away with them alltogether. And let the engineers design cars for best ride and handling, as they see fit.
	() Thanks

4th April 2007, 08:41	#176
ggkg BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 149 Thanked: 162 Times	Our speedbreakers are actually bone breakers. There was an interview by a neuro surgeon in some paper about how bad for bones/spine they are. Normally speedbreakers should make it uncomfortable to go fast and not harsh if you travel slow. Our speedbreakers injure the spine at any speed. Some are horribly created, often by villagers / shopkeepers to divert or slow down traffic deliberately. However, we cannot let our engineers design cars based on some ideal utopian road condition - after all we have to drive them on todays' streets. Bad roads, monsoon, horrible breakers, these are not going to change in our lifetime so best to get a car that is designed to live with it.
	() Thanks

4th April 2007, 09:08	#180
nispatel BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 97 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	Anyone has any idea on suspension setup on Logan, perticularly rear one as most modern cars have McPherson Strut in front anyway... By the way, car looks good as far as I can see by looking at it's website. I think this car will click...
	() Thanks